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Everything everywhere is opinions circulating in my brain. I heard many testimonies and many opinions about them.

Are these people lying or telling the truth?! I have no idea This earth is crazy. If you dont know what im saying look these people up on youtube.

truth or false?

Kat Kerr
Oden Hetrick
Choo Thomas
Daniel Ekechukwu
Mary K Baxter

These people have been challenged from other Christians. I dont know man I dont know if these people are false or not. Many people tell me lots of things, how do they know? They werent there. Is there Scripture? AHH I have no Idea.
 

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Have I got a great prophecy for you!
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God wants to restore us to once again be a "living, breathing soul" like Adam was BEFORE the fall from grace in the Garden of Eden (so that in the divine/spiritual sense, we will no longer be a fallen MAN).........

.....666 is not the number of a "living, breathing soul", it is the number of a "MAN". When the 6th day creation assumes the role of the 3 manifestations/aspects of God (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), we become our own "666" stumbling block. So do not listen to "MAN" to have God's REAL TRUTH (do not glorify MAN, glorify GOD ONLY).

Revelation 13:18
"it is the number of a MAN".......it's not the number of a SEVENTH day creation (a NEW CREATION that has been "RESTORED").

........(NO, I'm not a Seventh Day Adventist). A seventh day CREATION has nothing to do with any organized belief system.

Become a "living, breathing soul" by not having a spiritual teacher from mankind/humanity (only GOD in "the anointing").


1 John 2:27
"but the anointing which you received from him abides in you, and you have no need that any one should teach you; as his anointing teaches you about everything, AND IS TRUE".

God has put a 'seed' in us (call it the 'GOD SEED'/DNA) and will help us find it if we reject "mammon" (man and his NON-DIVINE version of "spirituality"). When we discover the "seed" (only possible with His guidance), the "ANOINTING" will take place.

Rely on GOD, not MAN for what is divinely spiritual.

I never heard of those people, but you should not let ANYONE on earth be a spiritual teacher to you.

Verse is from the RSV.
 

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Everything everywhere is opinions circulating in my brain. I heard many testimonies and many opinions about them.

Are these people lying or telling the truth?! I have no idea This earth is crazy. If you dont know what im saying look these people up on youtube.

truth or false?

Kat Kerr
Oden Hetrick
Choo Thomas
Daniel Ekechukwu
Mary K Baxter

These people have been challenged from other Christians. I dont know man I dont know if these people are false or not. Many people tell me lots of things, how do they know? They werent there. Is there Scripture? AHH I have no Idea.

Oh my,whatever you do don't judge,the single most important thing to is to have absolutely nothing to say about anything they do or say,did you know that no matter how many lies and blasphemies they engage in they can still be wonderful heaven bound christians
 

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Not judging those who proclaim to be Christian is contrary to what we are told:
1 Cor 5: [sup]12[/sup] What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? [sup]13[/sup] God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

It is the very reason we are warned about false prophets and teachers, we are to judge if they are false or not.

On what grounds do you believe liars and blasphemers will enter heaven? The way is narrow, few will find it, nothing unholy will enter.
 

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Not judging those who proclaim to be Christian is contrary to what we are told:
1 Cor 5: [sup]12[/sup] What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? [sup]13[/sup] God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.”

It is the very reason we are warned about false prophets and teachers, we are to judge if they are false or not.

On what grounds do you believe liars and blasphemers will enter heaven? The way is narrow, few will find it, nothing unholy will enter.

I agree,i was being sarcastic because one of my early experiences here involved being chastised for daring to question what a very famous preacher said on video,now i'm dealing with one who seems to be claiming they are perfect and sinless....never a dull moment ya know.
 

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I agree,i was being sarcastic because one of my early experiences here involved being chastised for daring to question what a very famous preacher said on video,now i'm dealing with one who seems to be claiming they are perfect and sinless....never a dull moment ya know.
Good to hear you were joking.

All he's saying is that it is no longer us who lives, but Christ living in us - if we are dead to our self, Christ takes over and we walk as He walked. If we're in Christ, there isn't any room for sin. :)
 
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Warrior,

Why are you so concerned with these false prophets? It's one of the signs of the end times. Let the blind lead the blind.

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.


Do you know how Federal Treasury agents are trained to spot counterfeit currency? They don't spend ANY time looking at the false bills. INSTEAD, they spend months and months STUDYING (IN GREAT DETAIL) THE GENUINE ARTICLE. Then, they when they are in the field they are able to readily recognize the imposters.

Study the Word of God and 'let the dead bury the dead'. Take Jesus' advice:

Luke 9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.
 

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Warrior,

Why are you so concerned with these false prophets? It's one of the signs of the end times. Let the blind lead the blind.

Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.


Do you know how Federal Treasury agents are trained to spot counterfeit currency? They don't spend ANY time looking at the false bills. INSTEAD, they spend months and months STUDYING (IN GREAT DETAIL) THE GENUINE ARTICLE. Then, they when they are in the field they are able to readily recognize the imposters.

Study the Word of God and 'let the dead bury the dead'. Take Jesus' advice:

Luke 9:60 Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God.

Where does the"burden" for the lost fit into all of this,if we are in fact to have such a burden,or perhaps this burden like others is just another creation of modern Christianity to weight us down and preoccupy us with everything but our own salvation which we are told to work out with "fear and trembling".we are told to proclaim the truth and the seed falls on good and bad ground,there are those who will tell you that you are also responsable for the ground,good or bad that it falls on.
 
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Where does the"burden" for the lost fit into all of this,if we are in fact to have such a burden,or perhaps this burden like others is just another creation of modern Christianity to weight us down and preoccupy us with everything but our own salvation which we are told to work out with "fear and trembling".we are told to proclaim the truth and the seed falls on good and bad ground,there are those who will tell you that you are also responsible for the ground,good or bad that it falls on.

+1. Very perceptive. The religious world is full of subtle guilt trips and distractions used to agitate people to expand the (false) kingdom in order to bring in more money and glory for the workers of self-righteousness, and to avoid the preeminent and deep issues of faith, holiness, reverence and true love.
 
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You ask some astute questions, Strat. That's a very admirable attribute. Hope you don't mind if I parse up your response and reply to a few different aspects of your post?

Where does the"burden" for the lost fit into all of this?

Concerning the "burden for the lost", we need not go to Borneo to find our mission field, the lost are all around us. As we begin to daily 'walk in the Spirit' we can pick up signals from co-workers or friends when they are in need of spiritual guidance. Maybe they'll tell you a friend or relative of theirs is very ill. Responding with "What's the person's name?. . . I'll be sure to pray to pray for them. (then DO IT)" I've never had a serious negative reaction on an offer to pray for someone in dire straits.

If we are in fact to have such a burden,or perhaps this burden like others is just another creation of modern Christianity to weight us down and preoccupy us with everything but our own salvation which we are told to work out with "fear and trembling".

Modern Christianity almost NEVER "works" out anything. Work is a four letter word. "Rest in Jesus, brother" is what you're much more likely to here. Just telling them about God's commandment to 'keep the Sabbath holy' has met with nothing but resistance and hostility. Fear and trembling or working out your own salvation (Phil. 2:12) are largely foreign concepts to most of today's Christians. It's all grace and love, Strat, get with the program! :)


We are told to proclaim the truth and the seed falls on good and bad ground, there are those who will tell you that you are also responsible for the ground, good or bad that it falls on.

Well they're wrong. All we need do, is plant the seed and pray for them, it is God that gives the increase.

1Co 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
1Co 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.


P.S. What kind of Strat do you have?
 

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You ask some astute questions, Strat. That's a very admirable attribute. Hope you don't mind if I parse up your response and reply to a few different aspects of your post?



Concerning the "burden for the lost", we need not go to Borneo to find our mission field, the lost are all around us. As we begin to daily 'walk in the Spirit' we can pick up signals from co-workers or friends when they are in need of spiritual guidance. Maybe they'll tell you a friend or relative of theirs is very ill. Responding with "What's the person's name?. . . I'll be sure to pray to pray for them. (then DO IT)" I've never had a serious negative reaction on an offer to pray for someone in dire straits.



Modern Christianity almost NEVER "works" out anything. Work is a four letter word. "Rest in Jesus, brother" is what you're much more likely to here. Just telling them about God's commandment to 'keep the Sabbath holy' has met with nothing but resistance and hostility. Fear and trembling or working out your own salvation (Phil. 2:12) are largely foreign concepts to most of today's Christians. It's all grace and love, Strat, get with the program! :)




Well they're wrong. All we need do, is plant the seed and pray for them, it is God that gives the increase.

1Co 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
1Co 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.


P.S. What kind of Strat do you have?

American made (1997) dual humbucker pickups,i have seen many with a humbucker at the bridge from the factory,but never one with humbuckers both at the bridge and neck positions...the guy at the Music store told me he had never seen one either.
 

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Where does the"burden" for the lost fit into all of this,if we are in fact to have such a burden,or perhaps this burden like others is just another creation of modern Christianity to weight us down and preoccupy us with everything but our own salvation which we are told to work out with "fear and trembling".we are told to proclaim the truth and the seed falls on good and bad ground,there are those who will tell you that you are also responsable for the ground,good or bad that it falls on.

You know, the answer to who ultimately that burden for the lost falls upon is covered in God's Word.

If everyone today was given 'eyes to see, and ears to hear', wouldn't God's Kingdom have already come to fully manifest upon this earth? Yet the battle is still raging, and if you'll notice today, Christ's enemies have gained a foothold upon this earth and are getting ready to try and throw us servants of Christ off it.

Christ's enemies could not have any... success IF all that believe on Him were given "eyes to see, and ears to hear", meaning given to understand the mysteries of God's Kingdom of why the battle is still going on today, and what people are behind it on earth. If they had, then not one believer on Christ would be confused by Satan's false prophets. In other words, everyone could then easily recognize Christ's true enemies on earth that hide and work in secret against us. It would then be fairly easy for us to put the false prophets down and in a corner for everyone to recognize. It would even turn many unbelievers today who haven't decided to our Lord Jesus Christ.

So why... are the false prophets, i.e., enemies of Christ still allowed today by Him?

Firstly, to test God's people with, to see who we will listen to. Though none of us in Christ Jesus are perfect, we suffer with those in the world that are persecuted by Christ's enemies, even those who have yet to believe on Him. So surely we see the spiritual war going on. But why is it still going on?

Every man in his own order, is what Paul said (1 Cor.15). Some of us are 'sealed' in prep for the coming of false messiah, and will never bow to that false one. Others must be tried with that event to become 'sealed' in Christ Jesus. And still other believers will fall away to wrongly bow to that coming false messiah, to become the five foolish virgins. The five foolish virgins subject to that coming temptation are concluded in blindness for this world. They don't know who they're listening to with following the traditions of men, not being given eyes to see and ears to hear. Yet Christ is not... going to lose them, not if they repent and recognize that future mistake of bowing to the false messiah (2 Thess.2).

Dan 11:31-35
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
(KJV)


I wish every believer on Christ Jesus was able to understand this matter, but I know not all do, nor will for this world.
 
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American made (1997) dual humbucker pickups,i have seen many with a humbucker at the bridge from the factory,but never one with humbuckers both at the bridge and neck positions...the guy at the Music store told me he had never seen one either.

Sounds nice! Mine's also an American made (1994) Buddy Guy Signature Strat, maple neck, sunburst body w/ pearloid pick guard w/ three active Fender Gold Lace Sensor pups. I may be only a 'half-fast' (not half as fast as I'd like to be) guitar player but EVERYONE comments on this axe's sweet tone. Amp - Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10 with "knobs that go up to 12 and that's TWO more than ten now iddn't " ;)
 

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Sounds nice! Mine's also an American made (1994) Buddy Guy Signature Strat, maple neck, sunburst body w/ pearloid pick guard w/ three active Fender Gold Lace Sensor pups. I may be only a 'half-fast' (not half as fast as I'd like to be) guitar player but EVERYONE comments on this axe's sweet tone. Amp - Fender Hot Rod Deville 4x10 with "knobs that go up to 12 and that's TWO more than ten now iddn't " ;)

Er.., since we're on that topic now, I have a 1977 Strat and a 1983 Strat Elite Eric Clapton model (active electronics, the precursorer to the Lace Sensor pickup design).
 
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Er.., since we're on that topic now, I have a 1977 Strat and a 1983 Strat Elite Eric Clapton model (active electronics, the precursor to the Lace Sensor pickup design).

Impressive, Veteran! When I was buying my strat in 1994 it was a toss up between the Eric Clapton sig. strat and the Buddy Guy sig. strat. Eric's neck was a bit chunky for my small hands, so I went with Buddy. I also have a 50th anniversary P-bass w/ active pups.

Who wants to talk about false prophets when we can brag about our Fender gear? :) Twang!
 

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Impressive, Veteran! When I was buying my strat in 1994 it was a toss up between the Eric Clapton sig. strat and the Buddy Guy sig. strat. Eric's neck was a bit chunky for my small hands, so I went with Buddy. I also have a 50th anniversary P-bass w/ active pups.

Who wants to talk about false prophets when we can brag about our Fender gear? :) Twang!

Or we could just talk about gear that we wish we'd never traded or sold, like an original Fender Deluxe Reverb amp I once had, and an early Gibson ES340 Stereo guitar with Bigsby tailpiece vibrato and a built in phase switch (body like the ES335).
 
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Or we could just talk about gear that we wish we'd never traded or sold, like an original Fender Deluxe Reverb amp I once had, and an early Gibson ES340 Stereo guitar with Bigsby tailpiece vibrato and a built in phase switch (body like the ES335).

Ouch! Seller's remorse is, indeed, a painful affliction of which the only known temporary cure of its symptoms is another somewhat less chronic ailment, i.e., GAS, Gear Acquisition Syndrome.