Explain Revelations So Even I Can Understand It

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So, can anyone explain this book at a 4th grade level in just a short paragraph or two?

How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity?
(Proverbs 1:22)​

 

[marks]

And then do you notice all the kings coming to battle at Armageddon? Why is that? I think the false prophet can't hold it together. All the nations are assembling for a mighty war. I'm not giving political analysis, economics, etc. nor to what degree Israel is involved or targeted, cuz I don't know. But the one-world government is now everybody going to war with everybody. The false prophet can't hold it together.

Interesting post!

On this part above,

Revelation 19:19 KJV
And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

This seems to be saying, to me, that they are intent on warring against Jesus Himself. I see some references in the Revelation that tell me the earth dwellers aren't entirely ignorant of what is happening.

Much love!

 

[NewMusic]

Interesting post!

On this part above,

Revelation 19:19 KJV
And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

This seems to be saying, to me, that they are intent on warring against Jesus Himself. I see some references in the Revelation that tell me the earth dwellers aren't entirely ignorant of what is happening.

Much love!

Of course the dwellers on earth are not ignorant by that time. They will have been told about their sins and why they are suffering now and that they chose sin at every step of their life rather than good, by the 2 prophets before the bowls of wrath get underway. They will make certain everybody is aware and in dire need of repentance, and what repentance looks like. Not lip service. In the words of John the Baptist, "Bear the fruit befitting repentance!".

How they proclaim God's word without the aid of the media which is all owned by the beast, will be very interesting.

And the war on Jesus, I don't think that's literally pointing missiles towards heaven. It's war on His people. Just like when Jesus told Saul/Paul, "Why are you persecuting Me?"

Saul/Paul had been persecuting the saints, but Jesus identified that as Himself.

But the verse you quoted does sound literal. Perhaps it is. Very interesting verse 19:19. Similar to 17:14, but slightly different.

 

[Davy]

Read. Study might be too strong a word. I realize the imagery is connected.

Reading only is not the way. Apostle Paul said to 'study' to shew oneself approved of God, a workman who need not be ashamed (2 Timothy 2:15). What then does it require for one to become a 'workman' in God's Word?

Using a study in electronics for example, what level of study would be required to become a 'workman' in that field? And it would be very dangerous if one just got the basics and went trying to wire something like an industrial plant.

When I covered God's Word slowly, studying, I noticed a remarkable attribute, and others noticed it too. The Holy Spirit causes you to recall Bible passages and events when you really need them. It's not by my memory, but by The Holy Spirit. Others think I simply have a good memory, but they don't understand.

Another matter I strongly believe that comes from disciplined Bible study, is that God will open up His Word to you in understanding, as long as you keep to what His Word says as written. At times that means having to dig back to the Bible languages and with translation of names and places, but really He has already provided us with some good Bible study tools by those He has called in the past. This also means if we stray from His written Word, and fall to men's leaven doctrines, He will also begin removing understanding in His Word. Some things written in God's Word are hard to take, and may not fit what society believes; but that's the test, whether we wish to listen to our Heavenly Father in His Word, or to men.

The Bible software company called BibleSoft has a free application downloadable from their website that contains a lot of study tools from scholars of the past. The minimum I recommend is a KJV Bible and a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, and The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge cross-reference. The free version doesn't have a Brown-Driver & Briggs Hebrew lexicon which I like, but that can be added.

 

[Davy]

So, can anyone explain this book at a 4th grade level in just a short paragraph or two?

OK Wrangler, I'll try.

Rules that MUST be followed:
1. Use The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge to look up Revelation's symbols and events given first back in the Old Testament prophets. (This scholarly work cross-references topics between Bible Books and chapters).

2. Focus on the 'events' in Revelation, not the order how it was written. Trying to glue the events together in the order they are written, like all the Seals happen first, then all the Trumpets happen next, and then all the Vials happen last, is a mistake. It will take you further away from understanding how the events fit together. Look at how the events in the Seals, Trumpets, and Vials parallel each other. Lord Jesus gave only 7 main Signs of the end in His Olivet discourse. His Revelation simply breaks those same 7 Signs down into 21 parts. Revelation 6 parallels the closest to His 7 Signs in His Olivet discourse.

 

[Pythagorean12]

How about salvation, were we pre programmed for that?

No one has said anything like pre-programmed.

You're not following the conversation.

 

[dad]

Agreed. The 1st half of the 7 years has 1/3 of the waters ruined, and by the latter half it's pretty much 100% of the waters.

The 1st half has 1/3 of the sunlight darkened, and by the latter half, well, maybe it does not pertain to sunlight and maybe it does, but an angel pours his bowl on the throne of the beast and its kingdom is in darkness.

Rev 16:10 The fifth angel poured out his bowl on the throne of the beast, and its kingdom was plunged into darkness. People gnawed their tongues in anguish...

By the way, I think that verse 16:10 is perhaps the funniest thing in the bible. I mean, Jesus spoke a personal word to the false prophet back when He was walking the earth which was this:

Mark 8:36 For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul?

If you think about it, there's only one person to whom that statement could apply "in totality", although of course it is relevant to everybody. But only one person in particular is being set up to gain the whole earth, being groomed for world domination, etc. And that one person is the false prophet.

YES, YES, YES, I know the verse applies to me and everybody else, but just think about it. One guy in particular is going to gain the whole world for a season and do cataclysmic horror and damage to the planet and people.

And Jesus, Lord of Love and Mercy and Grace and everything, even back then was reaching out to this guy and trying to warn him, reason with him, make him wake up with that statement in Mark 8:36.

Anyhow... why is 16:10 humorous?

Because here's the "day" that all these Satanists and evil politicians and CEO's of big corporations (10 horns) are beginning to finally get their dream come true, their lord bad guy, to rule the earth and reign with him (Rev. 17:12) and this is their big field day, their shining glorious day come true, and guess what? God has an angel pour a bowl on their lord's kingdom and everything is plunged into darkness!

Yikes!

Like your big dinner party that you planned a lifetime for, and every detail, and the dinner, desserts, drinks, champagne, decorations, the band, the videographers, dancers, everything to show off your Big Thing... and what happens? The electricity is cut off and cannot get turned back on.

Ruined!

I find that humorous.

And then do you notice all the kings coming to battle at Armageddon? Why is that? I think the false prophet can't hold it together. All the nations are assembling for a mighty war. I'm not giving political analysis, economics, etc. nor to what degree Israel is involved or targeted, cuz I don't know. But the one-world government is now everybody going to war with everybody. The false prophet can't hold it together.

Anybody that attempts to usurp the plans the Father has for His Son to rule the earth and to do so in righteousness, meet with a very not pleasant affair. The Father has promised His Son a kingship and kingdom.

"Sit at my right hand, until I put your enemies under your feet". Magnificent!

No one has said anything like pre-programmed.

You're not following the conversation.

If it is all arranged in advance as Calvies think, then basically it is pre arranged. Jesus died for nothing if there is no need to be saved by choosing Him.

 

[Hidden In Him]

They would not see him again unless they were 'blessing him as the one who came in the name of Yahweh'......in the last 2,000 years, have they done that? Individuals have, but as a nation, God cast them off

Oh fiddle sticks, LoL. Why would He regather them as a nation if He was done with them? :)

Good afternoon (morning), Jane, and hope you have a blessed day.

 

[Enoch111]

So, can anyone explain this book at a 4th grade level in just a short paragraph or two?

Sure. Revelation is a revelation of God's plan for this earth until the New Heavens and the New Earth are established. This plan includes very severe divine judgments (on the unbelieving, the ungodly, and the wicked), and the bulk of this book (chapters 6-18) focuses on these judgments. After those judgments we see the Second Coming of Christ and the establishment of His righteous Kingdom on earth. Eventually this earth will be supernaturally burned up to make way for the New Heavens and the New Earth "wherein dwelleth righteousness".

 

[Hidden In Him]

Revelation... is disconnected from the historical narrative which is in the interest of certain players to distort.

This reminds me of Martin Lawrence. He was a player.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Oh fiddle sticks, LoL. Why would He regather them as a nation if He was done with them? :)

Good afternoon (morning), Jane, and hope you have a blessed day.

Thank you.......

Now, when did God regather them as a nation?

 

[Raccoon1010]

Just read a thread about war in heaven via Rev 12:7. Though I read revelations 3x, I confess I cannot keep it in my head. I even read a book by a Rabbi who did an excellent analysis of connecting the many figurative passages.

The 1st time I read Revelations, I thought John must have been smoking something strong when he wrote it.

In the thread referenced above, several poster got into the phases of tribulation and that is not made clear to me from the text. Like Nostradamus predictions, passages are written so figuratively, they can be taken to mean nearly anything.

So, can anyone explain this book at a 4th grade level in just a short paragraph or two?

I've heard it suggested that Satan was cast out of heaven at the time of Christ ascension. That may explain some of the Book of Revelation. In the new testament we read that Satan came down from heaven like lightning. And in the book of Revelation we read that there was a war in heaven and Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and was cast out of heaven to earth.

 

[Pythagorean12]

If it is all arranged in advance as Calvies think, then basically it is pre arranged. Jesus died for nothing if there is no need to be saved by choosing Him.

Calvies? You think you're insulting someone with childish remarks?
I'm not Calvinist.
John Calvin did not invent Reformed Protestantism.
However, everything in RP is found in the bible.

God predestined all things.
Including salvation? Yes. You should read the Bible rather than take bites of it, thinking to regurgitate that onto a forum so as to negatively confront Christians who have

The Lamb's Book of Life contains the names of the saved Elect of God. That book was written by God.
Before God created the world.
Before any humans existed. Before the fall.

Jesus was prophesied in the OT.

Prophecy, is God foretelling what he has planned in the future.

 

[Aunty Jane]

God predestined all things.
Including salvation? Yes. You should read the Bible rather than take bites of it, thinking to regurgitate that onto a forum so as to negatively confront Christians who have

The Lamb's Book of Life contains the names of the saved Elect of God. That book was written by God.
Before God created the world.
Before any humans existed. Before the fall.

Sorry, but that does not hold water scripturally. The reason why is in the expression “founding of the world”.....it means the founding of the “kosmos” or “the world of mankind”, not the creation of the planet.

“The founding of the world” thus refers to the children of Adam and Eve. Who were born after the fall when God had already given his first prophesy in Genesis 3:15, foretelling the coming of the seed.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Thank you.......

Now, when did God regather them as a nation?

Several times. You'll have to forgive me, but I'm in a playful mood, LoL. I figure you're smart enough to get me. :)

 

[Davy]

I've heard it suggested that Satan was cast out of heaven at the time of Christ ascension. That may explain some of the Book of Revelation. In the new testament we read that Satan came down from heaven like lightning. And in the book of Revelation we read that there was a war in heaven and Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and was cast out of heaven to earth.

Yeah, that's a popular notion, that Satan was cast out of Heaven at Christ's crucifixion. They pull that from John 12:31...

John 12:31-32
31 Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.
KJV

Thing is, did God's judgment upon the world come at that time? No. Here we still are today with the wicked getting stronger upon this earth over God's people.

A little later in the Gospel of John, Lord Jesus refers to a time after His crucifixion...

John 14:30
30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in Me.
KJV

In 1 Peter 5:8, he warns that Satan like a roaring lion roams about seeking those who he may devour. That shows that Satan is not locked in the pit, but is still able to roam, and Rev.20 shows he isn't locked into his pit prison until Lord Jesus returns.

1 Peter 5:8
8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
KJV

So what most likely is the casting out of John 12:31, and Satan coming per John 14:30? It's about the following, which is set to happen to start the future "great tribulation" here on earth at the very end of this present world...

Rev 12:7-12
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
KJV

 

[dad]

God predestined all thing

No, we actually have a choice.

Including salvation? Yes. You should read the Bible rather than take bites of it, thinking to regurgitate that onto a forum so as to negatively confront Christians who have

The Lamb's Book of Life contains the names of the saved Elect of God. That book was written by God.

When we choose Jesus we are in there.

Before God created the world.
Before any humans existed. Before the fall.

He knew we would. He still had to die to give us the opportunity.

 

[Davy]

Sorry, but that does not hold water scripturally. The reason why is in the expression “founding of the world”.....it means the founding of the “kosmos” or “the world of mankind”, not the creation of the planet.

“The founding of the world” thus refers to the children of Adam and Eve. Who were born after the fall when God had already given his first prophesy in Genesis 3:15, foretelling the coming of the seed.

No, when Apostle Paul spoke of those in Christ being ordained before the "foundation of the world", the meaning is about the 'overthrow' (Greek katabole)...


NT:2602
katabole (kat-ab-ol-ay'); from NT:2598; a deposition, i.e. founding; figuratively, conception:
KJV - conceive, foundation.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)


That is actually from the Greek root kataballo which means to 'throw down' (NT:2598)...

NT:2598
kataballo (kat-ab-al'-lo); from NT:2596 and NT:906; to throw down:
KJV - cast down, lay.
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006, 2010 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

Thus the Scriptures is pointing to two events with that foundation idea, Satan's overthrow when he first sinned against God, and God establishing the foundation of this present world for Christ to be born through woman to die on the cross, and present The Gospel Salvation to all nations.

This is why those like Christ's Apostles were commanded to follow Him without question, and they got up and followed. He chose them, they didn't choose Him. Same thing especially with Apostle Paul before Lord Jesus divinely converted Paul on the road to Damascus per Acts 9. In John 17, Lord Jesus pointed to two groups of believers, the first group being His chosen 'sent' ones, which is the meaning of an Apostle. They belonged to The Father, and The Father gave them to Jesus, as He said there in His prayer.

Thus before the foundation of today's creation, God ordained those to Him, as chosen elect servants in The Gospel of Jesus Christ. Then Jesus mentions a 2nd group in John 17, those who believe The Gospel through the preaching of their word (His Apostles). And then Jesus prayed that both would become 'one' in Him and The Father, i.e., His Church.

 

[Taken]

Just read a thread about war in heaven via Rev 12:7. Though I read revelations 3x, I confess I cannot keep it in my head. I even read a book by a Rabbi who did an excellent analysis of connecting the many figurative passages.

The 1st time I read Revelations, I thought John must have been smoking something strong when he wrote it.

In the thread referenced above, several poster got into the phases of tribulation and that is not made clear to me from the text. Like Nostradamus predictions, passages are written so figuratively, they can be taken to mean nearly anything.

So, can anyone explain this book at a 4th grade level in just a short paragraph or two?

We did a daily study on Revelations for nearly a year...
It is a recap and prophecy that has application to every person (according to beliefs "in their heart", whatever they may be), as well to the divided angels...the earth, the heavens.
We made notes, and charts, verse by verse of what applied to whom. Presently I do not have access to my notes.
Is something more specific I can help you with?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Wrangler]

We did a daily study on Revelations for nearly a year...
It is a recap and prophecy that has application to every person (according to beliefs "in their heart", whatever they may be), as well to the divided angels...the earth, the heavens.
We made notes, and charts, verse by verse of what applied to whom. Presently I do not have access to my notes.
Is something more specific I can help you with?

Glory to God,
Taken

Nothing specific. Just a thumbnail sketch. For instance, I could some up Original Sin very succinctly and even the whole book of Genesis. No need for me to do it in this thread.

In fact, if put to the test, I am confident I could reasonably summarize every book of Bible - except Revelations.