Entering by the Narrow Gate

[Lizbeth]

For those who are actually born from the Spirit (a LOT fewer than those who claim to be), these can be said to be FROM heaven...not in heaven (unless the person returns to Zion after diligently seeking it from the Lord). So you are espousing a theoretical religious status that has no power over sin, the devil and the world.


You are jumping over an entire category of believer. We are reconciled to God through faith in Him...but to be dwelling where He is is at a whole other level...in holiness. The reason why there is no more saints in the church is because of the confusion sowed by the principlalities in decoying a religious version of the truth that has no truth...in power.


You would have to let go your own limited understanding and beliefs to have a chance to embark on the journey of faith. The Christ that is fully outside of you is attained through the faith of Christ that is in you. Like a beacon that sends a sailor to a safe port.

LOL. Unspiritualized you mean. Non-imaginative. Non-indoctrinated. My experience is real and spiritual. Those who deny the truth that I speak are both unlearned and unspiritual.

You rely on an imagination that you glean from reading the bible and placing yourself in the text. You call that kind of imagination "being spiritual" And if I call you out on the lack of reality...that makes it seem like I'm the carnal one who refuses to spiritualize and trivialize something from the biblical narrative.

So you have it backwards and upside down. The walk in Zion is real and powerful, but very difficult to attain to as it requires being allowed entry by God Himself. That's REAL spiritual reality at work. But this is so far beyond your imaginative interpretation that it seems like anyone who claims a real connection to God (not requiring religious imagination) must be taking things "too literally". Do you think that Jesus was only figuratively raised from the dead? Or literally? Are people figuratively healed by God, or literally healed?

What about being seated in heavenly places? How far does your figurative evaluation go? A person who is seated in Zion SEES Zion...as well as this world...in juxtaposition. ...as Jesus did. But you will say that is being too "literal" and "unspiritual". Well has Paul said that people will have a "form" (figurative) of godliness, but deny the "power" (literal) thereof. You are so hardened in your dogmatic ideology, you can't hear the gospel, let alone pursue its promises.

The parable of the ten virgins agrees with "Whoever HAS will be given more....". Think it's very important to acknowledge, understand and believe what we HAVE been given.

 

[amigo de christo]

So who is the antichrist, according to 1 John 2:22?

even now there are many anti christs whereby we know its the last time .
INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST . as it hollers the christain truth is no better than any other religoins truth .
IT HAS DENIED THE TRUTH OF CHRIST . it hollers and calls JESUS a liar
and it says and implies there is no NEED to beleive HE is CHRIST all religoins are coming to GOD .
But man does satan know how to make it all seem as though its such a good cause , a means for world peace n safety
and man how loving he makes it sound , such a large and lovely BROAD ROAD TO GOD .
BUT satan desires only one thing for mankind . WHICH WE SEEN at the tree . THEIR DEATH
and thus HE GONNA DO ALL to get folks to beleive THERE IS NO NEED TO BELEIVE on HE WHOM GOD DID SEND .
cause as i said , HE DESIRES THE DEATH OF ALL HUMANITY . but folks just sup up this stuff as though
its so loving and so good for mankind . The lambs wont touch the stench of this lie of interfaith . they know
ITS DEATH LEADING ONLY TO THE SECOND death and it has come of anti christ , NOT CHRIST .

 

[Lizbeth]

Short commentary.

What does it mean to enter through the narrow gate?
The narrow gate that Jesus was referring to is a personal relationship with God, not doing a bunch of religious rituals and sacraments to try and earn your way to heaven.

Amen! And not through idol worshiping rituals and practices of other religions and belief systems either. Jesus said if any man climb in by any other way, he is a thief and a robber.

 

[Ritajanice]

The parable of the ten virgins agrees with "Whoever HAS will be given more....". Think it's very important to acknowledge, understand and believe what we HAVE been given.

What does the above mean, Sis?

Does it mean given more faith, I know God increases our faith...

 

[Lizbeth]

The antichrist is Satan. The great tribulation has not happened yet. This happens when the Antichrist comes to the earth after being kicked out of heaven.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 and 4 is still in the future. The “man of sin” is none other than Satan. He will come as the Antichrist and will set himself up in Jerusalem claiming to be God. Many will be deceived and will worship him. The word for “falling away” in the Greek is apostasy.

Revelation 9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

Revelation 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

Yes, Satan....but indwelling a man perhaps? The number of the beast is the number of a man. Bible says men are like beasts that perish.

 

[Marvelloustime]

even now there are many anti christs whereby we know its the last time .
INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST . as it hollers the christain truth is no better than any other religoins truth .
IT HAS DENIED THE TRUTH OF CHRIST . it hollers and calls JESUS a liar
and it says and implies there is no NEED to beleive HE is CHRIST all religoins are coming to GOD .
But man does satan know how to make it all seem as though its such a good cause , a means for world peace n safety
and man how loving he makes it sound , such a large and lovely BROAD ROAD TO GOD .
BUT satan desires only one thing for mankind . WHICH WE SEEN at the tree . THEIR DEATH
and thus HE GONNA DO ALL to get folks to beleive THERE IS NO NEED TO BELEIVE on HE WHOM GOD DID SEND .
cause as i said , HE DESIRES THE DEATH OF ALL HUMANITY . but folks just sup up this stuff as though
its so loving and so good for mankind . The lambs wont touch the stench of this lie of interfaith . they know
ITS DEATH LEADING ONLY TO THE SECOND death and it has come of anti christ , NOT CHRIST .

@amigo de christo

even now there are many anti christs whereby we know its the last time .
INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST . as it hollers the christain truth is no better than any other religoins truth .
IT HAS DENIED THE TRUTH OF CHRIST . it hollers and calls JESUS a liar
and it says and implies there is no NEED to beleive HE is CHRIST all religoins are coming to GOD .
But man does satan know how to make it all seem as though its such a good cause , a means for world peace n safety
and man how loving he makes it sound , such a large and lovely BROAD ROAD TO GOD .
BUT satan desires only one thing for mankind . WHICH WE SEEN at the tree . THEIR DEATH
and thus HE GONNA DO ALL to get folks to beleive THERE IS NO NEED TO BELEIVE on HE WHOM GOD DID SEND .
cause as i said , HE DESIRES THE DEATH OF ALL HUMANITY . but folks just sup up this stuff as though
its so loving and so good for mankind . The lambs wont touch the stench of this lie of interfaith . they know
ITS DEATH LEADING ONLY TO THE SECOND death and it has come of anti christ , NOT CHRIST .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen! And not through idol worshiping rituals and practices of other religions and belief systems either. Jesus said if any man climb in by any other way, he is a thief and a robber.

LORD who then can be saved ,
WITH MAN this is IM POSS IBLE
GOD SENT HE WHO CAN SAVE , only most want to beleive not all have TO BELEIVE ON HIM .
all other religions are In total darkness and no matter how they try and save themselves and believe they are fine
THEY CANNOT .
Satan knows how to make it seem so very loving and very kind and good for humanity
WHEN REALLY ITS JUST MEANT FOR THEIR DESTRUCTION . HE KNOWS IT and HE DESIRES it .
GOD desires LIFE only most seem to REJECT THE LIFE , THE WAY and THE TRUTH
and had rather cling to a love of the world THEY THINK is the LOVE OF GOD .
But it aint the love of GOD . GOD dont lie , GOD dont set up a REAL BROAD PATH and tell folks
hey it matters not if ye beleive , YE are fine . ONLY satan would do that . Cause satan desires death .
GOD DESIRES LIFE , SO HE SENT and TESTIFIED OF THE ONLY ONE WHO CANSAVE
and reminded all of the DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON THAT CHRIST . many seem to forget that .

 

[Marvelloustime]

LORD who then can be saved ,
WITH MAN this is IM POSS IBLE
GOD SENT HE WHO CAN SAVE , only most want to beleive not all have TO BELEIVE ON HIM .
all other religions are In total darkness and no matter how they try and save themselves and believe they are fine
THEY CANNOT .
Satan knows how to make it seem so very loving and very kind and good for humanity
WHEN REALLY ITS JUST MEANT FOR THEIR DESTRUCTION . HE KNOWS IT and HE DESIRES it .
GOD desires LIFE only most seem to REJECT THE LIFE , THE WAY and THE TRUTH
and had rather cling to a love of the world THEY THINK is the LOVE OF GOD .
But it aint the love of GOD . GOD dont lie , GOD dont set up a REAL BROAD PATH and tell folks
hey it matters not if ye beleive , YE are fine . ONLY satan would do that . Cause satan desires death .
GOD DESIRES LIFE , SO HE SENT and TESTIFIED OF THE ONLY ONE WHO CANSAVE
and reminded all of the DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON THAT CHRIST . many seem to forget that .

@amigo de christo

 

[Behold]

The narrow gate that Jesus was referring to is a personal relationship with God,

The "narrow gate" is HOW a person can have a personal and eternal relationship with God.

So, what IS... the narrow gate?

Its the Cross of Christ...........its John 14:6

 

[amigo de christo]

Amen! And not through idol worshiping rituals and practices of other religions and belief systems either. Jesus said if any man climb in by any other way, he is a thief and a robber.

So believe me when i say , SATAN IS A THEIF and A ROBBER and comes to only steal to kill and to destroy .
HE GONNA PREACH ANOTHER WAY ALL RIGHT . and all who enter into his GOATFOLD have entered into death twice told .
Interfaith has all religions climbing up their own way . Intefaith is of anti christ .
its sold under the guise it is love and its for world peace n safety .
But there will be no peace to the wicked . AND INTERFAITH willl not dare to preach the ONLY MESSAGE
that can RECONCILE man to GOD . interfaith preaches the climb up your own way and here are some strange diverse clothes for ya .
But intefaith knows not what occured to the man who was without the WHITE GARMENT .
that man was not welcomed with hugs , HIMS WAS CAST OUT . JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY
THE ONLY NAME whereby one may be saved and YE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM .
IF a man hears us they are of GOD , wrote john , but if a man hears not us HE IS NOT OF GOD.
interfaith tries to say OTHERWISE . But we dont heed interfaith , WE SHEEP HEED JESUS THE CHRIST
for by grace we KNOW HE BE THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED .

 

[Marvelloustime]

So believe me when i say , SATAN IS A THEIF and A ROBBER and comes to only steal to kill and to destroy .
HE GONNA PREACH ANOTHER WAY ALL RIGHT . and all who enter into his GOATFOLD have entered into death twice told .
Interfaith has all religions climbing up their own way . Intefaith is of anti christ .
its sold under the guise it is love and its for world peace n safety .
But there will be no peace to the wicked . AND INTERFAITH willl not dare to preach the ONLY MESSAGE
that can RECONCILE man to GOD . interfaith preaches the climb up your own way and here are some strange diverse clothes for ya .
But intefaith knows not what occured to the man who was without the WHITE GARMENT .
that man was not welcomed with hugs , HIMS WAS CAST OUT . JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY
THE ONLY NAME whereby one may be saved and YE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM .
IF a man hears us they are of GOD , wrote john , but if a man hears not us HE IS NOT OF GOD.
interfaith tries to say OTHERWISE . But we dont heed interfaith , WE SHEEP HEED JESUS THE CHRIST
for by grace we KNOW HE BE THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED .

@amigo de christo

 

[Episkopos]

The parable of the ten virgins agrees with "Whoever HAS will be given more....". Think it's very important to acknowledge, understand and believe what we HAVE been given.

Why is that? Why is it more important to convince oneself that one is rich and in need of nothing than to seek the Lord?

 

[amigo de christo]

Why is that? Why is it more important to convince oneself that one is rich and in need of nothing than to seek the Lord?

rather odd that i seem to see people who try and convince themselves its okay if one does not believe JESUS IS CHRIST .
seems to me we do have men trying rather to find another route to GOD and trying so hard
to warn those who DO REMIND of the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST , that they are naught but religious self ego
souls . KNOW anyone like that epi . many seem to preach concepts , well certain concepts
about JESUS the CHRIST , but sure seem to beleive this can be attained WITHOUT HAVING TO BELEIVE ON HE WHO
said them concepts and taught them concepts . KNOW anyone like that epi . cause i sure seem to notice
quite a few that can teach SOME things JESUS said and yet sure seem to go after those
who REMIND all of the dire NEED TO BELEIVE ALL THINGS JESUS SAID ,

 

[Lizbeth]

What does the above mean, Sis?

Does it mean given more faith, I know God increases our faith...

Yes faith and spirit, I believe. (The two go hand in hand.)

Jesus came preaching and speaking to the Jews/Israel under the Law. The parable of the ten virgins says the five wise (wise unto salvation) brought oil in their vessels with them, while the five unwise did not. This aligns with where He said the unbelieving Jews were zealous for God but did not combine it with faith. Whoever had faith were given more, they were able to receive Jesus and the Holy Spirit when He and the apostles came preaching the gospel, and enter the wedding feast so to speak....the kingdom of Christ and second covenant. And whoever didn't have faith even what they had (the first covenant) was taken away from them in 70 AD with the destruction of the Temple and exile. Jesus was so often rebuking the people of Israel for not having faith to believe. The first covenant was supposed to teach and lead them to faith. Many were called but few were chosen out of all Israel......as was prophesied, only a remnant would be saved.

And I take it as speaking much the same warning also to the mostly Gentile church, but on another level and as pertains to His second coming, if that is correct. Tares among the wheat. Not all who say to me Lord, Lord etc, will enter but those who do the will of the Father and are counting the cost.

 

[Lizbeth]

Why is that? Why is it more important to convince oneself that one is rich and in need of nothing than to seek the Lord?

Goodness, where have I ever said or implied that we are therefore in need of nothing and don't need to seek the Lord? You know that is not my attitude. As the scripture says we are to run this race so as to win it, and work out our salvation and perfect holiness in the fear of the Lord. We need to understand the paradox here. There are many who are sitting on their laurels I don't doubt, but that isn't the fault of the truth, it is the fault of those who have embraced a greasy grace kind of gospel. Why else are we admonished not to abuse the liberty and the grace we have been given?

 

[Lizbeth]

So believe me when i say , SATAN IS A THEIF and A ROBBER and comes to only steal to kill and to destroy .
HE GONNA PREACH ANOTHER WAY ALL RIGHT . and all who enter into his GOATFOLD have entered into death twice told .
Interfaith has all religions climbing up their own way . Intefaith is of anti christ .
its sold under the guise it is love and its for world peace n safety .
But there will be no peace to the wicked . AND INTERFAITH willl not dare to preach the ONLY MESSAGE
that can RECONCILE man to GOD . interfaith preaches the climb up your own way and here are some strange diverse clothes for ya .
But intefaith knows not what occured to the man who was without the WHITE GARMENT .
that man was not welcomed with hugs , HIMS WAS CAST OUT . JESUS CHRIST IS THE ONLY WAY
THE ONLY NAME whereby one may be saved and YE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM .
IF a man hears us they are of GOD , wrote john , but if a man hears not us HE IS NOT OF GOD.
interfaith tries to say OTHERWISE . But we dont heed interfaith , WE SHEEP HEED JESUS THE CHRIST
for by grace we KNOW HE BE THE ONLY WAY TO BE SAVED .

Amen. Offering strange fire before the Lord is the way that seemeth right to man....it isn't the true fire from heaven. We must worship God the way HE prescribes, not the way we feel we want to or that seems right to us.

 

[Lizbeth]

Amen. Offering strange fire before the Lord is the way that seemeth right to man....it isn't the true fire from heaven. We must worship God the way HE prescribes, not the way we feel we want to or that seems right to us.

And to finish the thought, what the Lord commands/prescribes is that all men everywhere repent and believe on His Son to be saved. Any other way is strange fire.

 

[amigo de christo]

And to finish the thought, what the Lord commands/prescribes is that all men everywhere repent and believe on His Son to be saved. Any other way is strange fire.

 

[IronMaiden]

Yes, Satan....but indwelling a man perhaps? The number of the beast is the number of a man. Bible says men are like beasts that perish.

Yes, I believe that Satan will look like a man, which is the reason that a multitude of people will be deceived and believe this “man” is Jesus. This Antichrist of antichrists will claim to be God and will be performing all sorts of deceptive signs and lying wonders to delude the masses. How many times did Jesus say, “Do not be deceived.”
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (KJV) 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

 

[IronMaiden]

even now there are many anti christs whereby we know its the last time .
INTERFAITH IS OF ANTI CHRIST . as it hollers the christain truth is no better than any other religoins truth .
IT HAS DENIED THE TRUTH OF CHRIST . it hollers and calls JESUS a liar
and it says and implies there is no NEED to beleive HE is CHRIST all religoins are coming to GOD .
But man does satan know how to make it all seem as though its such a good cause , a means for world peace n safety
and man how loving he makes it sound , such a large and lovely BROAD ROAD TO GOD .
BUT satan desires only one thing for mankind . WHICH WE SEEN at the tree . THEIR DEATH
and thus HE GONNA DO ALL to get folks to beleive THERE IS NO NEED TO BELEIVE on HE WHOM GOD DID SEND .
cause as i said , HE DESIRES THE DEATH OF ALL HUMANITY . but folks just sup up this stuff as though
its so loving and so good for mankind . The lambs wont touch the stench of this lie of interfaith . they know
ITS DEATH LEADING ONLY TO THE SECOND death and it has come of anti christ , NOT CHRIST .

Absolutely. And only the lambs will endure to the end and not be deceived.