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Pearl.. did you read the context of why trump said that? Post 8.
He doesnt want to be president til he dies.
where do you people get this stuff?!! The news? stopppp! lol
He has said many times since the beginning of this campaign that he is going to be a dictator; now either that is what he truly wants or it is in very bad taste. Either way i wouldn't trust that man with running a raffle let alone a country as big as the US. The US has always held a special place on the world stage but with Trump as president it became a laughing stock. Do the good citizens of the USA want that again? I know my American pen-pal doesn't.
 
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Oh Pearl, please. Since you dont live here you do not know what goes on. Allow me to fill you in?

The president has a direct effect on what is taught in the schools. When the left is in power- they corrupt the minds of little children! How that isnt known is beyond me. Why some are OK with that is also beyond me.

This began when the real one who doesnt want to go out of power was elected.
o-bama-- the charismastic liar who people chanted for and kids sang to in the schools-- peace love unity-- THAT was the joke. He provoked racism like crazy!- he divided this nation. His big priority was gay marriage.
He lit the whitehouse up in rainbow colors and ran thru it with a rainbow flag with Joe once gay marriage passed------------
democracy?- he didnt light it up on 4th of july? Why?
When he ran for president- he said he was for civil unions so gays could have rights- and that marriage of gays was not his agenda. He lied.

There's much MORE- look at his dept of education appointee- Kevin Jennings- a known pedophile. Who is for MANbla (men who have sex with boys) Yes THIS happened. Jennings wrote a lot of books on the topic. One book was on how to queer down america's kids. IS that OK with you? Kids have been being indoctrinated ever since. We have very mixed up kids now due to this. We knew at the time what he was doing- but the media went silent on it--
this article is from 2009--

Mr Jennings-- Who is Kevin Jennings and Why Should You Care?

I have two friends who WERE teachers and no longer are due to the militant push of this on the kids and teachers.


How anyone who says they are Christian can ever vote for the left is beyond me.
What does the left stand for anyway?
1. abortion of babies any time
2. queering our children in schools
3. sex hormones & multilation surgery of minor children
4. not informing parents
5.drag shows in schools
6. pronouns--
7. christian bashing
8. race baiting
9 defunding police
10. open borders
11 illegals voting
12 they do not teach US History- they teach them to hate their country
13 they teach left ideaolgies only
14 boys in girls bathrooms & gym showers
15 books on perverted sexual freedom
16 look down on stay at home mothers-
17 look down on men as head of the home
18 look down on white men
19 call black men and women who are conservative- uncle toms and bash them
20 Cancel people who disagree with them- boom you dont exist! like a cult does.
21 Hate freedom of speech unless it's them speaking (1st amendment)
22 want 2nd amendment gone
23 full blown head on with the *UNITED NATIONS which all of that above is a part of
8plus, dont want us driving, or eating beef, owning land, being a strong nation etc etc
24 Climate change lies
25 despise homeschooling
26 let criminals out of prison and do not enforce current laws on crime
27 mail in votes, no voter ID, ballet harvesting, no date needed on mail in votes
28 grading papers based on race
I could keep going.. but why bother? Once someone makes up their mind via the TV news- they stop using their brain.

What is trump for?
1 stop the insanity in the schools
2 religious freedom
3 the Constitition
4 close the borders
5 only US citizens vote
6 law and order
7 a stable nation
8 a good economy

Yeah, he's the evil one...

If interested here is a book about what goes on in schools---



American children are learning a lot about sex, “gender,” and sexuality in their schools. District administrators, teachers, and even librarians are obsessed with pushing inappropriate topics onto kids, all in the name of fostering “inclusion.” Children today learn that they were “assigned a sex at birth” and can change their sex or “gender” at will. Kids are no longer learning to read, write, or do math, but they are learning how to be “radical gender” activists. Meanwhile, school districts keep parents in the dark, hiding critical information about the health and well-being of their children from them.

American education wasn’t like this forty years ago. The cult of Queer Theory changed everything. Inspired by the religious teachings of Michel Foucault, Judith Butler, and Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick, Queer Activists “queered” American education. Schools are no longer teaching children how to flourish in society—they are initiating children into the cult of Queer Theory. Once initiated, children “experience the queer” as they adopt a new cult identity and embark on the destructive path of social and medical “transition.”

In this book, The Queering of the American Child, Logan Lancing and James Lindsay explain what Queer Theory is, where it comes from, how it got into schools, and what it’s doing to children nationwide. The cult of Queer Theory preys on children, and it must be understood if we are ever to stop the madness.
So are you saying that the President of the US will only serve those who are considered to be nice decent people and anybody who is not considered to be a nice decent citizen such as drag queens, pro abortionists, gay or trans has no right to be seved by the president in office? Sounds very divisive to me.
 
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Trump, much like the apostle Paul, says things that are hard for some to understand and then they twist the meaning. It was the same with the "injecting yourself with bleach" during COVID. Or again, he was holding that Bible upside-down. In none of these cases was that the case, but almost as if waiting for something to be said to take out of context (and the last accusation sample I mentioned was downright ignorant thus showing his critics un-churched).

In any election, people have to get past the emotional appeal (or lack thereof) and try to go with the record. Trump was already president. So what happened? How was the International scene? how were wars and conflicts? how about Israel? the economy? The border crisis? Now compare to the last 3+ years and compare. And if we want to elect based on emotional appeals such as abortion rights or LGBTQ rights, cheaper meds, and so forth while families struggle to live with the other every day issues, and the world is now on the brink of WW3, well....

It's in the Lord's hands. But I suppose at the present course things can be sped up.
I think if Trump doesn't get in we saw last time what his supporters are capable of.
 

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He has said many times since the beginning of this campaign that he is going to be a dictator; now either that is what he truly wants or it is in very bad taste. Either way i wouldn't trust that man with running a raffle let alone a country as big as the US. The US has always held a special place on the world stage but with Trump as president it became a laughing stock. Do the good citizens of the USA want that again? I know my American pen-pal doesn't.
Lots of Americans do want him again. Some almost worship him, and treat most everything he says as gospel truth. The reasons are varied.

Some voters hail Trump’s support for social policies aligned with their religious convictions, even as they ignore his personal moral shortcomings antithetical to those beliefs. Some credit Trump for the size of their 401Ks, having ridden the stock market boom that followed his inauguration and the downturn that followed his 2020 defeat. Some admire his abrasive, don’t-give-a-damn approach to governance, adopting him as their own middle finger against an ill-defined “establishment” at whose hands they believe they have suffered. Some embrace the nostalgic vision of a simpler, safer and more homogeneous America of times gone by, to which Trump promised a return.

And some are convinced that the 2020 election was stolen, an affront to democracy which must be set right.
 
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This is what I meant about the media twisting things or lying to get people against trump.
Yes, and some people willingly believe the lies. Because they simply don't like Trump.

Btw, I've read the Internet is being scrubbed to remove bad things about Kamala Harris. And Tik Tok is portraying her glowingly. Brainwashing.

GovTrac in 2019 had said Harris was the most far left, liberal politician...that page has been removed already. The page also said she missed many voting sessions as senator.
 

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Yes, and some people willingly believe the lies. Because they simply don't like Trump.
And some people willingly believe lies emanating from Trump. There are lots to choose from. Biden and Harris may be the world's greatest Bozos, but neither of them can match Trump when it comes to prevarication.
 
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Is that so? I never heard that before. My Grandma was a a SDA and she used to darag me off to church with her as much as she could, lol. And I never heard nothing like that in there being talked about. That would've been late 70's early 80s.

Maybe they changed something since then? At the time I thought they came across sorta like Baptists. Just a normal church. Times they are a changing. One of the prophecies I heard said sharia law will be instituted in the US at some point, maybe that's what really happens? Wouldn't that accomplish the same thing by stopping worship in saturday also?

I was told this by 2 members on here, and by one in person recently. I do not know when it began.

I am not familiar with all that they teach. I am aware of mandatory 7th day worship & no pork (or seafood. ?)
To them, it's not that they choose those things in liberty- they believe we are all disobeying the commandments & are therefore, apostates.

SDA's are from the Millerites of 1800s as well as other goups who sprang from that tie ie: Jws, christadelphians, etc..

"Adventists are taught from childhood that they are God’s only true church on earth and that they are God’s remnant people. They are taught that they have the “truth” and all other Christians are wrong and are apostate. They have a very difficult time receiving anything from a “Sunday Keeper”, as they refer to Christians. They have been taught that someday those who worship on Sunday will persecute them, hunt them and even kill them. This doesn’t help."

Founder, Ellen White prophecies--
 
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Trump, much like the apostle Paul, says things that are hard for some to understand and then they twist the meaning. It was the same with the "injecting yourself with bleach" during COVID. Or again, he was holding that Bible upside-down. In none of these cases was that the case, but almost as if waiting for something to be said to take out of context (and the last accusation sample I mentioned was downright ignorant thus showing his critics un-churched).

In any election, people have to get past the emotional appeal (or lack thereof) and try to go with the record. Trump was already president. So what happened? How was the International scene? how were wars and conflicts? how about Israel? the economy? The border crisis? Now compare to the last 3+ years and compare. And if we want to elect based on emotional appeals such as abortion rights or LGBTQ rights, cheaper meds, and so forth while families struggle to live with the other every day issues, and the world is now on the brink of WW3, well....

It's in the Lord's hands. But I suppose at the present course things can be sped up.
I agree with you except it really wasnt a good idea to compare him to Paul in any way.
You know how stuff gets twisted..!
and frankly, there are some people who view trump as the only one who can save them.

that's 7 years old. He ought to do a new one.
 

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He has said many times since the beginning of this campaign that he is going to be a dictator; now either that is what he truly wants or it is in very bad taste.
Geez lol WHERE and WHEN? News to me.
Either way i wouldn't trust that man with running a raffle let alone a country as big as the US. The US has always held a special place on the world stage but with Trump as president it became a laughing stock. Do the good citizens of the USA want that again? I know my American pen-pal doesn't.

pearl,
he already DID run the country. He did a great job.
Do I care what the world thinks? No. they are believing the tv news and that's a part of the plan.
he was president and things went well here. I suspect your pen pal watches tv news and has ZERO knowledge about his policies.
This is precisely what I am saying-- people dont have to eat dinner with him. He is not asking them to. look at his POLICIES.
Good grief!
it's almost as if there is a brainwash happening. Is that really your reply to all of the perversions of the left that I posted for you?
Really?
If Christians dont stand against that evil and our children, who will?!!!!

TDS really exists..wow
 

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That is what 'not voting again' means. He will stay in power until his death and then appoint another leader - just a Kim will. Goodbye democracy where everybody counts.
You didn't seem to read or comprehend the explanation a few of us gave or watch the video of what he was saying in context.

Pearl.. did you read the context of why trump said that? Post 8.
He doesnt want to be president til he dies.
where do you people get this stuff?!! The news? stopppp! lol

They get it from the news and also because of their dislike for Trump, they refuse to acknowledge the simple truth.

Trump was speaking to an audience of Christians that didn't usually vote...he said vote this time, then you can go back to not voting.

He has said many times since the beginning of this campaign that he is going to be a dictator; now either that is what he truly wants or it is in very bad taste. Either way i wouldn't trust that man with running a raffle let alone a country as big as the US. The US has always held a special place on the world stage but with Trump as president it became a laughing stock. Do the good citizens of the USA want that again? I know my American pen-pal doesn't.
Please provide links or videos with proof to back up what you claim.

That pen pal of yours...must be the one in Chicago who told you there wasn't an illegal migrant problem there.

$300 million spent on illegal migrant crisis in Chicago...

 
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You didn't seem to read or comprehend the explanation a few of us gave or watch the video of what he was saying in context.



They get it from the news and also because of their dislike for Trump, they refuse to acknowledge the simple truth.

Trump was speaking to an audience of Christians that didn't usually vote...he said vote this time, then you can go back to not voting.


Please provide links or videos with proof to back up what you claim.

That pen pal of yours...must be the one in Chicago who told you there wasn't an illegal migrant problem there.

$300 million spent on illegal migrant crisis in Chicago...

it's the craziest thing.

it's similar to what happens to people in the cults. I dont think there is anything we can say.
 
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And some people willingly believe lies emanating from Trump. There are lots to choose from. Biden and Harris may be the world's greatest Bozos, but neither of them can match Trump when it comes to prevarication.
That's not actually true.
Biden and Harris have been lying since they began their respective political careers.
Trump entered politics as a newbie prior to the 2016 bid.
 

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I think if Trump doesn't get in we saw last time what his supporters are capable of.
wow yeah you bought it lock stock and barrel.........
Ive told you the doors were left open by secret service, fbi was intermingled in the crowd, antifa was in there as well and broke windows... they were set up and invited in.
All that those people wanted was a fair vote count!
Trump supporters are the everyday working class. we pay our taxes and obey the laws and work hard. screw the lying media! you are trusting the TV over your fellow believers in Christ.
This is nuts.
i need to go breathe some sanity.
even the perversion of children didnt sway you!!
 

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I agree with you except it really wasnt a good idea to compare him to Paul in any way.
You know how stuff gets twisted..!
and frankly, there are some people who view trump as the only one who can save them.
Name someone who stated that.
that's 7 years old. He ought to do a new one.
No he shouldn't
That precious little boys spot is timeless.


 

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Thank you @Cassandra and I would like to add to that the protection Rome offered to Israeli's during the time of the new testament. And that certainly is some interesting history. Today we have the separation of Republican and Democrat, and also some of them both are Christian in someones belief system. I don't know that Trump considers himself a priest or a king.

Well the climate in the USA between Republican and Democrat has certainly changed:

Biden says politics must never be 'a literal battlefield' or 'killing field' in post-Trump shooting address

Look at the following politics and legal issues that appear to me to have gone out of control. First Trump is called into courts with accusations and convicted of things legally. And Trump's team gets some presidential immunity from prosecution:

Trump touts Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruling as 'big win for our Constitution and for democracy'

Biden responds with the following:

Biden to announce support for major changes to Supreme Court amid outrage over recent decisions: report

Are those issues creating a power as a King? Or are they addressing harassment of Trump and addressing election steering? Well I certainly don't like what I'm seeing in either of the two stories. And who initiated those actions?

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I think you missed the point. I am speaking of keeping church and state separate. We don't need to mix the two. that's what he wants. It was never a pattern.Christ recognized the need for separation. Has nothing to do with Rome and Israel. and Trump is not being harrassed.
Im sorry you did not understand what I wrote.
 
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wow yeah you bought it lock stock and barrel.........
Ive told you the doors were left open by secret service, fbi was intermingled in the crowd, antifa was in there as well and broke windows... they were set up and invited in.
All that those people wanted was a fair vote count!
Trump supporters are the everyday working class. we pay our taxes and obey the laws and work hard. screw the lying media! you are trusting the TV over your fellow believers in Christ.
This is nuts.
i need to go breathe some sanity.
even the perversion of children didnt sway you!!
National Guardsmen witnessed Capitol police opening the barricades so the domestic terrorists that arrived in private busses could gain entry.

When they entered Congress did you notice? They walked a red carpet that was boarded by red silk ropes. E ery last terrorist followed that aisleway. They didn't break the ropes and run wild. They acted like tourists.


Nancy Pelosi made all that possible because she controls the CP when SotH.
 
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I think you missed the point. I am speaking of keeping church and state separate. We don't need to mix the two. that's what he wants. It was never a pattern.Christ recognized the need for separation. Has nothing to do with Rome and Israel. and Trump is not being harrassed.
Im sorry you did not understand what I wrote.
That's a lie.
And demonstrates in its publishing lack of knowledge regarding the U.S Constitution. As a start.
 
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Name someone who stated that.
i dont recall now lol .. whoever I quoted is who made the comparison. he/she didnt mean it in that way, but the left twists everthing.
No he shouldn't
That precious little boys spot is timeless.
all i was saying is he should reiterate it all. --its been 7 yrs--- it would be a good thing to do. would be good for the campaign. and would re energize his base even more. why is that bad?
uhhh I'm a trump supporter lol
 
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