There are many people who support a doctrine in which they themselves become sinlessly perfect in their flesh. To me it's quite an unbiblical notion due to a writing of John's which states (1 John 1:8) if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. The people state that once a person is born of God they never go on to sin ever again, how can that be true? When John explicitly states, that if we say we have no sins, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. People typically do sin, when they are arguing to argue, it's called dissension. Are people ignorant of this? Most likely due to the fact, that word is founded in (Galatians 5:20) concerning the acts of the flesh however the word must be defined if one is going to look into what that even means! Just think about it, if a person uses a word, which you never heard before anyway how do you understand what it is if you do not seek out what the definition is? Now, while God's will is for people to become sanctified. Is that Sanctification within the flesh; or is the one the mind/heart/emotions of the person from the fleshly demeanor to the (John 15:4) abiding in the Messiah, whom helps with the renewing of our mind/heart/emotions to the truths founded in looking towards Yahavah, his Father. Being renewed inwardly from the heart, even so, this flesh lives, we do fall short from time to time: told hold ourselves as though they never sin, they never mess up, they never fail; is a total lie to ourselves. That is why John states what he does! "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." So, how do we reconcile the scripture which states in some translations concerning Johns's same letter, in chapter 3 (1 John 3:9) verse 9; (King James Version) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
While I do not mind the King James Version of the Bible, there are some misnomers found within the text itself. Using this verse from (1 John 3:9) against (1 John 1:8) is a contradiction found now! In one instance, John states "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth in not in us." I know myself, I fail, probably on a daily more than I realize because of my selfish nature that lives within me, that rises up from time to time in my life, my life is known in front of the Living God. I will never be able to say "Look at me God, I didn't fall short anymore!" It's Jesus that helps us from falling short, by the Spirit of Christ within you, if so you are of the Lord Yeshua (Romans 9:9-11) Paul wrote this to the Saints at Rome. Therefore, the truth is, we do sin. Naturally. I'm not a better citizen just because of doing good things, or feeling like I do good things. It's trusting in God in faith, and having him help you in your hearts and mind, even with your falling short, because it's stated in the Book of Romans as well (Romans 3:23-24) "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."
If all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, what makes one think that they can just no longer all of a sudden no fall anymore by the means of the flesh? As again once more John wrote, concerning that "if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not within us." Yet in 1 John 3:9, in the King James Version states, that "Whoeverso is born of God does not commit sin, for his seed remains in h I'm, and he can not sin because he is born of God."
The truth is, that those whom are born again, they abide in Christ, even though their flesh does fail from time to time, perhaps more than they been able to recognize does not go on to make a "practice of sinning." They instead of going in by the fleshly means when someone disagrees with them, or mocks them, or laughs at them, they instead go to God, and seek his help, by the spirit of Christ within them, to instead of reacting in a defensive way, responds in a humble, contrite way, or perhaps doesn't say anything at all, as the spirit brings forth love, peace, kindness, etc... (Galatians 5:22-24).
Don't believe me? There are other versions of the bible, concerning the scripture that John had wrote, in (1 John 3:9) that differs from the statement made in the King James Version, which I don't have a problem with; though the contradicting statements argument is just not concise in truth. Just take a look at the verses below, it's concerning "practice of sinning." The flesh can not be perfect, the holy spirit/spirit of Christ sanctify the mind/hearts of the person to be moved by the spirit, rather than the flesh, and even so they change their minds of reacting within the flesh and more of the spirit, by dying to the flesh and living to the spirit. The truth is, we do fall short, will fall short, however our sins have been forgiven, it just up to you to decide whether or not you will deceive yourself, or realize the matter concerning how these contradictions have to be reconciled there seems to have to be a reconciliation at least to me, and in my of course opinion.
English Standard Version
No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
Berean Standard Bible
Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
Berean Literal Bible
Anyone having been born of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to continue sinning, because he has been born of God.
While I do not mind the King James Version of the Bible, there are some misnomers found within the text itself. Using this verse from (1 John 3:9) against (1 John 1:8) is a contradiction found now! In one instance, John states "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth in not in us." I know myself, I fail, probably on a daily more than I realize because of my selfish nature that lives within me, that rises up from time to time in my life, my life is known in front of the Living God. I will never be able to say "Look at me God, I didn't fall short anymore!" It's Jesus that helps us from falling short, by the Spirit of Christ within you, if so you are of the Lord Yeshua (Romans 9:9-11) Paul wrote this to the Saints at Rome. Therefore, the truth is, we do sin. Naturally. I'm not a better citizen just because of doing good things, or feeling like I do good things. It's trusting in God in faith, and having him help you in your hearts and mind, even with your falling short, because it's stated in the Book of Romans as well (Romans 3:23-24) "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."
If all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, what makes one think that they can just no longer all of a sudden no fall anymore by the means of the flesh? As again once more John wrote, concerning that "if we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not within us." Yet in 1 John 3:9, in the King James Version states, that "Whoeverso is born of God does not commit sin, for his seed remains in h I'm, and he can not sin because he is born of God."
The truth is, that those whom are born again, they abide in Christ, even though their flesh does fail from time to time, perhaps more than they been able to recognize does not go on to make a "practice of sinning." They instead of going in by the fleshly means when someone disagrees with them, or mocks them, or laughs at them, they instead go to God, and seek his help, by the spirit of Christ within them, to instead of reacting in a defensive way, responds in a humble, contrite way, or perhaps doesn't say anything at all, as the spirit brings forth love, peace, kindness, etc... (Galatians 5:22-24).
Don't believe me? There are other versions of the bible, concerning the scripture that John had wrote, in (1 John 3:9) that differs from the statement made in the King James Version, which I don't have a problem with; though the contradicting statements argument is just not concise in truth. Just take a look at the verses below, it's concerning "practice of sinning." The flesh can not be perfect, the holy spirit/spirit of Christ sanctify the mind/hearts of the person to be moved by the spirit, rather than the flesh, and even so they change their minds of reacting within the flesh and more of the spirit, by dying to the flesh and living to the spirit. The truth is, we do fall short, will fall short, however our sins have been forgiven, it just up to you to decide whether or not you will deceive yourself, or realize the matter concerning how these contradictions have to be reconciled there seems to have to be a reconciliation at least to me, and in my of course opinion.
English Standard Version
No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
Berean Standard Bible
Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
Berean Literal Bible
Anyone having been born of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to continue sinning, because he has been born of God.
