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Amazing seeing the whole team coming together in prayer...


Damar Hamlin's toy charity takes in millions in the following hours


Currently at 3.4 million dollars...

 
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The Toy Drive was just under $3,000 days earlier...


The fund is now set to roll over $4,000,000.


I must say here that I am proud of the support behind what looks like a good man.
 

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Fund is now over $4.1 million dollars and the family has updated the web site...

**UPDATE: This fundraiser was initially established to support a toy drive for Damar’s community, sponsored by the Chasing M’s Foundation. However, it has received renewed support in light of Damar’s current battle and we can’t thank all of you enough. Your generosity and compassion mean the world to us.

If you would like to show your support and contribute to Damar’s community initiatives and his current fight, this is the place to do so. This is the only current fund that is being used by the Hamlin Family. Again, thank you for your thoughts, prayers and generous support during this time.
 

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I had the game on and was working on the computer. I looked up to see this in action and the game stopped. Interesting household we have .....I played for 12 years and Officiated for 25. My wife was an RN out of school. I walked into the room she was in and switched the channel to the game. "Watch this"

She was in charge of the maternity ward. Her first job out of college. She had performed CPR on babies multiple times. She was able to explain what was taking place, then asked ....."Have you ever seen an ambulance on the field after 37 years of play?" "At least six times. He is lucky because if you ever have an event like this, he is surrounded by some of the best medical care just seconds from him."

He took a helmet to the chest. At the wrong time, at the worst possible moment. As a proud owner of a pace maker, myself, because of a blocked right bundle branch ....(electrical problem) My problem is hereditary .....(thank you Mom)....My heart gets out of rythym. The pace Maker operates occasionaly and simply speeds up the side that gets slower ...No terminal condition. The concern involves the amount of time he stopped breathing ....Brain damage is always a consideration ....From what I've read, his vital signs are good, he woke up in the hospital .....He was intubated which inserts a tube down his throat to keep his lungs working. He's sedated because of the tube ...

I had one incident I'll never forget. Before the National Anthym ....I was talking with a ball player. We stopped to honor the anthym ...... suddenly he collapsed at my side. I dropped to help him ...He suffered a seizure ...I stopped the anthym by shouting "I need a doctor here now!" Five came out of the stands, the anthym stopped and we worked on him for ten minutes .....Ambulance at the stadium pulled up, loaded him and took off ......he came out in good shape.

I was doing a Semi Pro game when I took a dive. Punt, I raced down the sideline, slowed and walked with the ball, waiting for the kicking team to kill the play. They stopped the ball, I squared off, blew my whistle and waved my arms above my head to kill the clock. Clock operator described this ....."Suddenly, as if Ray got shot in the chest, he dropped on his back." The trainers on my sideline were at my side in seconds. They held me down waiting for the paramedics to arrive. The concern was a back or neck injury .....They strapped me to a back board and took me to the hospital .......I was telling the staff when they rolled me in "Get me off of this board or I'll start pulling velcro myself" The CIA should use backboards to interrogate. Pure misery .....Hey, At least I stopped the clock before I dropped LOL!

One week later I had the same team in Orlando. Broke away from the herd of zebras and went to the trainers. Joking I told them "If I fall down. Do not have them strap me on a board .....I'll come back and track you down .." Laughing we all talked about the trip and my problem ....I told them "I believe you medical guys should get strapped down on that board then get driven around town to understand what takes place ......You deserve the same punishment we victims experience ....."

Hamlin will have a long road ahead ....If true, this looks like a once in one hundred lifetime event. He'll never experience this again ....I pray he has that as an answered prayer......
 

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The play by play full broadcast…


Latest update from his uncle says he had to be resuscitated twice…

 

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I had the game on and was working on the computer. I looked up to see this in action and the game stopped. Interesting household we have .....I played for 12 years and Officiated for 25. My wife was an RN out of school. I walked into the room she was in and switched the channel to the game. "Watch this"

She was in charge of the maternity ward. Her first job out of college. She had performed CPR on babies multiple times. She was able to explain what was taking place, then asked ....."Have you ever seen an ambulance on the field after 37 years of play?" "At least six times. He is lucky because if you ever have an event like this, he is surrounded by some of the best medical care just seconds from him."

He took a helmet to the chest. At the wrong time, at the worst possible moment. As a proud owner of a pace maker, myself, because of a blocked right bundle branch ....(electrical problem) My problem is hereditary .....(thank you Mom)....My heart gets out of rythym. The pace Maker operates occasionaly and simply speeds up the side that gets slower ...No terminal condition. The concern involves the amount of time he stopped breathing ....Brain damage is always a consideration ....From what I've read, his vital signs are good, he woke up in the hospital .....He was intubated which inserts a tube down his throat to keep his lungs working. He's sedated because of the tube ...

I had one incident I'll never forget. Before the National Anthym ....I was talking with a ball player. We stopped to honor the anthym ...... suddenly he collapsed at my side. I dropped to help him ...He suffered a seizure ...I stopped the anthym by shouting "I need a doctor here now!" Five came out of the stands, the anthym stopped and we worked on him for ten minutes .....Ambulance at the stadium pulled up, loaded him and took off ......he came out in good shape.

I was doing a Semi Pro game when I took a dive. Punt, I raced down the sideline, slowed and walked with the ball, waiting for the kicking team to kill the play. They stopped the ball, I squared off, blew my whistle and waved my arms above my head to kill the clock. Clock operator described this ....."Suddenly, as if Ray got shot in the chest, he dropped on his back." The trainers on my sideline were at my side in seconds. They held me down waiting for the paramedics to arrive. The concern was a back or neck injury .....They strapped me to a back board and took me to the hospital .......I was telling the staff when they rolled me in "Get me off of this board or I'll start pulling velcro myself" The CIA should use backboards to interrogate. Pure misery .....Hey, At least I stopped the clock before I dropped LOL!

One week later I had the same team in Orlando. Broke away from the herd of zebras and went to the trainers. Joking I told them "If I fall down. Do not have them strap me on a board .....I'll come back and track you down .." Laughing we all talked about the trip and my problem ....I told them "I believe you medical guys should get strapped down on that board then get driven around town to understand what takes place ......You deserve the same punishment we victims experience ....."

Hamlin will have a long road ahead ....If true, this looks like a once in one hundred lifetime event. He'll never experience this again ....I pray he has that as an answered prayer......

I was watching the game broadcast--- right when it happened my wife walked in the room and said-- 'You're watching football?"

I said-- 'I'm pretty sure I just watched a guy die on Live TV.'
 

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Did anyone watch Tucker Carlson last night?

He had Dr Peter McCullough on -- a cardiologist and one of the few brave docs willing to ask questions about the apparent correlation between the dramatic increase in sudden death in athletes since the advent of these mRNA vaccines and boosters.

From ~29/year before COVID to more than 1500 since the vaccination programs were started and mostly mandated for participants in sports (high school, college, professionally-- most notably in European sports leagues but also the NFL) 2/3 of those incidents of sudden cardiac arrest prove fatal.

The relevant segment begins just before the 13 min mark.


 
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Did anyone watch Tucker Carlson last night?

He had Dr Peter McCullough on -- a cardiologist and one of the few brave docs willing to ask questions about the apparent correlation between the dramatic increase in sudden death in athletes since the advent of these mRNA vaccines and boosters.

From ~29/year before COVID to more than 1500 since the vaccination programs were started and mostly mandated for participants in sports (high school, college, professionally-- most notably in European sports leagues but also the NFL) 2/3 of those incidents of sudden cardiac arrest prove fatal.

The relevant segment begins just before the 13 min mark.


I disagree entirely with Tucker and his guest on this one. This was due to a hit. A hit to the chest that can stop your clock. A hit to the chest that stop anyone of us in our tracks ....It has nothing to do with a shot ....While there is some concern of sudden adult death syndrone ......There is ZERO proof that this is the case in this instance because this has happened in the past. It happened before someone let a virus out a lab in China. Happened before anyone invented a shot to combat that virus.

This sudden movement has no substance other than conjecture ....Part of this question is driven by the agenda to halt the forced requirement of the vaccine ...In that regard I agree that the vaccine should not be required or demanded or forced on anyone. But to make up a correclation without proof...is an insult to the athlete Hamlin.

All across this nation, thousands of athletes have taken the vaccine. All across this nation using this line of reasoning are thousands of ticking time bombs just waiting for a hit to the chest. Hamlin was hit at just the right moment, at just the right angle, at just right heartbeat for him to be laying in a hospital bed at this moment .....Again, it had nothing to do with a shot. Thousands of football players, thousands of soccer players, fewer winter baseball players and softball players ....

To support this myth .......Name, and provide a list of over 1500 deaths on playing fields .....not at home, not in any other instance ........why aren't there daily lists of these incidents taking place on the field? Pure conjecture and to be blunt ...crap . Experts are courageous when someone sticks a microphone in their face......Provide a actual list of 1500 that died on the field ........It doesn't exist ....To believe this myth .....there has to be hundreds that die because they were hit in the chest during a ball game ......It isn't happening ....Bold unsupported statements are not what are needed at this time.

This is what Sports Medicine Cardiologists are saying at this time about "COVID SHOT REALTED DEATHS"
“I think those links are completely false information,” said Jonathan Drezner, MD (UW Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology, Seattle), editor-in-chief of the British Journal of Sports Medicine. “Many of those cases have other diagnosed conditions and even occurred before the pandemic started—so there’s nothing to this.”

The Sports Medicine Community is very tight ......I would imagine they would be screaming if they suspected a corealtion .....In the Medical Field there is a problem ....COVID is an issue alone and the vaccine a seperate issue. Johns Hopkins ran a study during the pandemic ....they used the typical death counts each year and compared them with Covid. There should have been an increase of over 500,000 plus deaths. They weren't there! Within a day of publishing, the report vanished ....why? Suddenly a guy getting cut in half layng on a railroad track had a Covid test done, tested positive and was counted as a Covid death.....No, he fell asleep on a railroad track and got cut in half. Motorcycle accident victims that tested positive were counted as Covid Deaths ....We have a huuuuuuge problem!
 
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I disagree entirely with Tucker and his guest on this one. This was due to a hit. A hit to the chest that can stop your clock. A hit to the chest that stop anyone of us in our tracks ....It has nothing to do with a shot ....While there is some concern of sudden adult death syndrone ......There is ZERO proof that this is the case in this instance because this has happened in the past. It happened before someone let a virus out a lab in China. Happened before anyone invented a shot to combat that virus.

This sudden movement has no substance other than conjecture ....Part of this question is driven by the agenda to halt the forced requirement of the vaccine ...In that regard I agree that the vaccine should not be required or demanded or forced on anyone. But to make up a correclation without proof...is an insult to the athlete Hamlin.

All across this nation, thousands of athletes have taken the vaccine. All across this nation using this line of reasoning are thousands of ticking time bombs just waiting for a hit to the chest. Hamlin was hit at just the right moment, at just the right angle, at just right heartbeat for him to be laying in a hospital bed at this moment .....Again, it had nothing to do with a shot. Thousands of football players, thousands of soccer players, fewer winter baseball players and softball players ....

To support this myth .......Name, and provide a list of over 1500 deaths on playing fields .....not at home, not in any other instance ........why aren't there daily lists of these incidents taking place on the field? Pure conjecture and to be blunt ...crap . Experts are courageous when someone sticks a microphone in their face......Provide a actual list of 1500 that died on the field ........It doesn't exist ....To believe this myth .....there has to be hundreds that die because they were hit in the chest during a ball game ......It isn't happening ....Bold unsupported statements are not what are needed at this time.

This is what Sports Medicine Cardiologists are saying at this time about "COVID SHOT REALTED DEATHS"
“I think those links are completely false information,” said Jonathan Drezner, MD (UW Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology, Seattle), editor-in-chief of the British Journal of Sports Medicine. “Many of those cases have other diagnosed conditions and even occurred before the pandemic started—so there’s nothing to this.”

The Sports Medicine Community is very tight ......I would imagine they would be screaming if they suspected a corealtion .....In the Medical Field there is a problem ....COVID is an issue alone and the vaccine a seperate issue. Johns Hopkins ran a study during the pandemic ....they used the typical death counts each year and compared them with Covid. There should have been an increase of over 500,000 plus deaths. They weren't there! Within a day of publishing, the report vanished ....why? Suddenly a guy getting cut in half layng on a railroad track had a Covid test done, tested positive and was counted as a Covid death.....No, he fell asleep on a railroad track and got cut in half. Motorcycle accident victims that tested positive were counted as Covid Deaths ....We have a huuuuuuge problem!

Except you are not a cardiologist, --are you?

And the sports medicine cardiologists you quote haven't studied the issue for two years like McCullough has.

Oh and then there's this>>>> Pfizer is a major advertising sponsor of the NFL.... spending $9.5 pushing their jabs.

 

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Damar's Buffalo Bills teammate Cole Beasley is a well known opponent of the mandated shots..... He's been very quiet these last few days.

He's one of a very few people in prominent positions showing true courage in his convictions.... rare breed.

In June 2021, Beasley announced on social media that while he understood the NFL's interest in players getting the COVID-19 vaccine, he would forgo it nonetheless, even if it meant that he would have to end his playing career as a result. Beasley initially claimed he would stop discussing the issue publicly out of a desire to not be a "distraction" to his team. He then entered a public argument with Mark Cuban, who offered to buy Beasley's wife a share in Pfizer stock if Beasley got vaccinated and promoted the vaccine on his social media platforms. Beasley later entered a public back and forth with teammate Jerry Hughes over the NFL's newly-implemented vaccine rules.

In August 2021, Beasley was removed from the Buffalo Bills' facility for close contact with a vaccinated COVID-19 positive staff member. On August 25, Beasley and teammate Isaiah McKenzie were fined $15,000 for violating the NFL's COVID-19 protocol by not wearing masks. Beasley again took to social media to voice his complaints and was poked fun at by his teammate Stefon Diggs who said "15k is a lot of money lol…" to which Beasley responded by saying "Lol not for you." He was placed back on the active roster on August 27. It was on the same day that Beasley publicly displayed a brain tattoo on his Instagram account. Beasley commented of the tattoo that it symbolized his desire for more "free thinking" in the league.

On October 4, 2021, Beasley took to his Twitter account to criticize Bills fans who booed him at games due to his unvaccinated status. He then deactivated his Twitter account the following week. On December 26, 2021, ESPN reported that Beasley had "been fined multiple times for COVID-19 protocol violations, reaching a cumulative sum in the range of $100,000.



What is the NFL's vaccination policy?

In March, the NFL and NFL Players Association agreed to immediately suspend all aspects of their joint COVID-19 protocols, citing recent trends that the spread of coronavirus is declining. That includes mask requirements, contact tracing, capacity limits and other protocols, unless required by state or local laws.


There is no vaccine mandate for NFL players, but the league reported that about 95 percent of the players and nearly 100 percent of team personnel were vaccinated.


But that was in March, ahead of the 2022 season, that saw a return to normalcy. The NFL policies and protocols have been much different in the two seasons prior, beginning with Club- Education Camps where teams were mandated by the NFL to teach players and staff about the virus and once available the vaccines.

In 2021 they introduced a Tier System, with players and staff who have close contact with players considered Tier 1. Here are the rules for Tier 1 personnel...

The NFL and the NFL Players Association, through their respective infectious disease experts, have developed material that Club medical staffs must use to educate Tier 1 and Tier 2 Individuals (as defined in the Club Facility Protocol) about COVID-19, COVID-19 vaccinations, details of the Club’s Infectious Disease Emergency Response (“IDER”) Plan and best practices for reducing the risk of infections, testing and treatment. All Tier 1 and Tier 2 Individuals were required to complete this COVID-19 education before full rosters of NFL players were permitted to return to work.

COVID-19 Vaccination Requirement: In order to be eligible for Tier 1 status, an individual must either be fully vaccinated or have been granted a religious or medical exemption by his or her employer.
 

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Except you are not a cardiologist, --are you?

And the sports medicine cardiologists you quote haven't studied the issue for two years like McCullough has.

Oh and then there's this>>>> Pfizer is a major advertising sponsor of the NFL.... spending $9.5 pushing their jabs.

Except this ...When you perform CPR on a person, you cause damage to the rib cage and the ribs conneting to the spine. That's why Hamlin has lung damage at the present. l incuded the statement by Sports Medicine Cardiologists ....There is no evidence of the claims made these so called "experts" concerning athletes collapsing due to the shots. The deaths of athletes has been due to outlying conditions that existed. ......My advantage over you? I've been there and particpated in performing CPR on person during a football contest ......My wife is an RN and is touch with numerous Doctor's dedicated to keeping track on this .....Doctor's involved with the University of Alabama and Auburn University .......Or are you simply a member of the conspiracy crowd that follows the pack?
 

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Except this ...When you perform CPR on a person, you cause damage to the rib cage and the ribs conneting to the spine. That's why Hamlin has lung damage at the present. l incuded the statement by Sports Medicine Cardiologists ....There is no evidence of the claims made these so called "experts" concerning athletes collapsing due to the shots. The deaths of athletes has been due to outlying conditions that existed. ......My advantage over you? I've been there and particpated in performing CPR on person during a football contest ......My wife is an RN and is touch with numerous Doctor's dedicated to keeping track on this .....Doctor's involved with the University of Alabama and Auburn University .......Or are you simply a member of the conspiracy crowd that follows the pack?

Nice try....

McCullough cites peer-reviewed study data. Not some "I think" statement from a sports med cadiologist-- do you even know what that is?

It's a sports med doctor, with an interest in cardiology. Jonathan Drezner, MD is the team doc for the Seattle Seahawks. He's not even a cardiologist. He's licensed to practice family medicine. He is board-certified in Family Medicine and has a Certificate of Added Qualification in Sports Medicine.


Your advantage over me? :rolleyes: What is that supposed to mean? lol

Your advantage over me is that your wife is an RN in touch with doctors? Let me one-up ya. My wife and I retired after many years in Emergency Medical Services. She was a paramedic and I was an EMT/Firefighter. Together over the course of our careers, we have done chest compressions (CPR) on hundreds of patients, and defibrillated at least a hundred. But go ahead... educate me on cracking ribs.


Here is a link to one of the studies McCullough cites-



Oh looky here...... a connection to University of Washington in Seattle-- except from an actual cardiologist. Professional jealousy at work Dr Drezner???

Peter Andrew McCullough was born in Buffalo, New York, on December 29, 1962. He earned a Bachelor of Science degree from Baylor University in 1984 and his Doctor of Medicine (MD) degree from the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in 1988.He completed his residency in internal medicine at the University of Washington in Seattle, a cardiology fellowship in 1991, and practiced internal medicine in Grayling, Michigan, for two years before enrolling in the University of Michigan School of Public Health, earning a Master of Public Health (MPH) degree in 1994.

Career​

After receiving his MPH, McCullough was a cardiovascular fellow at William Beaumont Hospital in the Detroit metropolitan area until 1997. He then worked at the Henry Ford Heart and Vascular Institute in Detroit until 2000, served as section chief of cardiology of the University of Missouri–Kansas City School of Medicine, and returned to William Beaumont Hospital where he worked from 2002 to 2010. He spent the next four years as chief academic and scientific officer of the St. John Providence Health System, Detroit, before joining the Baylor University Medical Center in 2014. McCullough entered into a confidential separation agreement with Baylor Scott & White Medical Center in February 2021. In July, in response to his promotion of misinformation about COVID-19, Baylor sued McCullough to prevent him falsely claiming any current association with Baylor Health.

McCullough is a founder and current president of the Cardio Renal Society of America and co-editor-in-chief of Cardiorenal Medicine,[12]the society's journal, and also editor of Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine. He has conducted several studies on running and heart disease, and co-described the term Phidippides cardiomyopathy, a heart condition found in some high endurance athletes.
 

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Medical update... Damar was able to talk and asked who won the game...
 
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I disagree entirely with Tucker and his guest on this one. This was due to a hit. A hit to the chest that can stop your clock. A hit to the chest that stop anyone of us in our tracks ....It has nothing to do with a shot ....While there is some concern of sudden adult death syndrone ......There is ZERO proof that this is the case in this instance because this has happened in the past. It happened before someone let a virus out a lab in China. Happened before anyone invented a shot to combat that virus.

This sudden movement has no substance other than conjecture ....Part of this question is driven by the agenda to halt the forced requirement of the vaccine ...In that regard I agree that the vaccine should not be required or demanded or forced on anyone. But to make up a correclation without proof...is an insult to the athlete Hamlin.

All across this nation, thousands of athletes have taken the vaccine. All across this nation using this line of reasoning are thousands of ticking time bombs just waiting for a hit to the chest. Hamlin was hit at just the right moment, at just the right angle, at just right heartbeat for him to be laying in a hospital bed at this moment .....Again, it had nothing to do with a shot. Thousands of football players, thousands of soccer players, fewer winter baseball players and softball players ....

To support this myth .......Name, and provide a list of over 1500 deaths on playing fields .....not at home, not in any other instance ........why aren't there daily lists of these incidents taking place on the field? Pure conjecture and to be blunt ...crap . Experts are courageous when someone sticks a microphone in their face......Provide a actual list of 1500 that died on the field ........It doesn't exist ....To believe this myth .....there has to be hundreds that die because they were hit in the chest during a ball game ......It isn't happening ....Bold unsupported statements are not what are needed at this time.

This is what Sports Medicine Cardiologists are saying at this time about "COVID SHOT REALTED DEATHS"
“I think those links are completely false information,” said Jonathan Drezner, MD (UW Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology, Seattle), editor-in-chief of the British Journal of Sports Medicine. “Many of those cases have other diagnosed conditions and even occurred before the pandemic started—so there’s nothing to this.”

The Sports Medicine Community is very tight ......I would imagine they would be screaming if they suspected a corealtion .....In the Medical Field there is a problem ....COVID is an issue alone and the vaccine a seperate issue. Johns Hopkins ran a study during the pandemic ....they used the typical death counts each year and compared them with Covid. There should have been an increase of over 500,000 plus deaths. They weren't there! Within a day of publishing, the report vanished ....why? Suddenly a guy getting cut in half layng on a railroad track had a Covid test done, tested positive and was counted as a Covid death.....No, he fell asleep on a railroad track and got cut in half. Motorcycle accident victims that tested positive were counted as Covid Deaths ....We have a huuuuuuge problem!
It may have nothing to do with this incident.

But an increase in deaths among young people of over 5000%, even from all walks of life...is note worth, to say the least.

Perhaps Tucker should rather have done a piece on that increase and only mentioned Damar as a byline, and let the numbers speak for themselves. I guess that's showbiz.
 

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It may have nothing to do with this incident.

But an increase in deaths among young people of over 5000%, even from all walks of life...is note worth, to say the least.

Perhaps Tucker should rather have done a piece on that increase and only mentioned Damar as a byline, and let the numbers speak for themselves. I guess that's showbiz.
And that was the point. There is a call out to stop football. This injury had nothing to do with a shot. Nothing to do with a shot at all ........Several years ago a little league pitcher threw a pitch, the batter hit the ball which hit the pitcher square in his chest. He was dead before hit the ground. The sports medicine community that studies sports injuries, especially cardiologists, have noted this specific injury due to the impact injury to the chest .....Guess what? That pitcher didn't have a shot, his death had nothing to do with a shot. I watched an interview with two heads of Cardiology Departments in highly respected medical facilities. They specifcally noted the instances when this injury has taken place on athletic fields including a professional boxing match. ...Most of the deaths of athletes occur after or in preparation for the contest. Not on the field of play. Most of what is discovered in athletes involve a preexisting medical condition, known or unknown.