Crazy world we live in

[Raccoon1010]

I have schizophrenia and the psychiatrist and psychologist will ask a patient if they are thinking of harming themselves or someone else. And if you tell them you are they can have you admitted to a psychiatric ward against your will and with your will. I thought it was interesting to see what I have just learned from studying the internet. Although I don't have intents to harm myself or others, I did some research about unecessary surgeries and abortions and found something that someone might be hiding from people.

In unecessary surgeries like plastic surgery or something else, the patient is placed under a deep sedative sleep just above death and carefully monitored so that they are kept alive, but in a state that they don't feel the surgery. There are a percentage of people that may die. Or have long term injuries from such proceedures. Why do surgeons continue to perform unnecessary surgery?

Asking about suicide and self-harm: moving beyond clinician discomfort

So does someone going into plastic surgery intend to risk harming themselves and does the surgeon risk their lives and health unecessarily. Could the same insanity claim that the psychologist and psychiatrist be used to check them as a team of doctor and patient that as a team they are doing something similar of potentially harming themselves (patient) or someone else (doctor)

In abortions around the world nearly half are dangerous and many even in the united states die from abortions or suffer long term health effects.

Abortion

Do the abortions also follow under the same insane questions of whether they are thinking of harming themselves or someone else?

Sure maybe the plastic surgery elites and rich people may not know they could be harmed in the process of unecessary risk. Or do they. The abortion people, do they consider harming their unborn babies, and what of the doctors and the risks to the mothers.

Should they be locked up in a mental ward for attempting such ideas and procedures. I think it is up to the states that define the laws and perhaps the federal government as well. They seem to be doing it to mentally ill people? How do I know? I have a brother in law that was suicidal being homeless and we had to call the police on him as he was threatening suicide. And they eventually locked him up. He later visited me and said "ya, I wouldn't take the meds they wanted to give me so they gave me shock therapy and he didn't have a choice since he rejected the meds. That was here in Washington state.

Strange world we live in. Comments?

 

[Raccoon1010]

Even more sick and sorry for the truth and how disturbing this country has become, that we need to become aware of so we know how to defend the weak and children, let's consider transgender surgeries.

I think that anyone that steers an innocent and impressionable child to consider they are a biologic gender that they are not, or leaves them to decide what gender they are as a parent representing a deceptive gender in the first place as role model is an abomination away from God. God created us male and female and children should be taught the true nature of their God created genders. Re-enforced by responsible, mentally and emotionally adult parents, Christian parents. Transgender is a misreprentation of their biologic gender and at least misleading or deceptive, so is gay and lesbian roles as parents. If gay parents are to adopt children they have the responsiblity to raise them to accept their God created genders and not be deceived by lies.

The lies and deceptions of transgender in the USA we have seen in hormone abominations therapies and surgeries that permanently damage the children for life. Can those transgender surgeries be undone? The question then is two outcomes I can think of off the top of my mind: One, the children decide later in life, that they are not transgender and have made a permanent life altering decision that cannot be undone? and Two are the doctors thinking about harming the patients and should be locked up in a mental ward first.

I have thought on this subject on behalf of the illness of homosexuality and found that hormone treatments that encourage proper gender do exist and they are not being promoted, correct me if I am wrong, they are instead promoting encouragement of homosexual hormone treatments. Hormones of testosterone and estrogen are given to patients by doctors for certain treatments already. I'm not a doctor and have no doctor advice in this post or the previous one, but just find it odd.

Thoughts?

 

[Raccoon1010]

Any thoughts?

 

[amadeus]

Any thoughts?

There are always thoughts on these things, but perhaps too many of us are too involved in the politics of this natural [carnal] land we are "in"... unless we really have a personal involvement and/or interest such as your own. It a crazy world, but we, believers in God and Son, being in the world, should too much about the world of which we are not, or are not to be, "of".

Joh 17:11

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

Joh 17:16

They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Can we stop the sin of all those around us? How can we do that if alone we cannot even stop our own sin? Let us rather then go back to Jesus' words here:

Mt 6:33

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

The seeking His kingdom and His righteousness are indeed our part, but all of those other things to be added, are we to decide just what they are and what they are not and lead ourselves to accomplish the right results? I think not... but what do I know and what am I able to see?

 

[Raccoon1010]

There are always thoughts on these things, but perhaps too many of us are too involved in the politics of this natural [carnal] land we are "in"... unless we really have a personal involvement and/or interest such as your own. It a crazy world, but we, believers in God and Son, being in the world, should too much about the world of which we are not, or are not to be, "of".

Joh 17:11

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

Joh 17:16

They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

Can we stop the sin of all those around us? How can we do that if alone we cannot even stop our own sin? Let us rather then go back to Jesus' words here:

Mt 6:33

But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

The seeking His kingdom and His righteousness are indeed our part, but all of those other things to be added, are we to decide just what they are and what they are not and lead ourselves to accomplish the right results? I think not... but what do I know and what am I able to see?

Thanks Amadeus! I think I just wanted everyone to know what's going on and how the different treatment occurs between mentally ill and the other people.

 

[amadeus]

Thanks Amadeus! I think I just wanted everyone to know what's going on and how the different treatment occurs between mentally ill and the other people.

Without a doubt my friend, people do discriminate, even those who are supposed to know better. Jesus did not, but who among us is that much like Him?

 

[Raccoon1010]

Without a doubt my friend, people do discriminate, even those who are supposed to know better. Jesus did not, but who among us is that much like Him?

Thanks for the encouragement!

 

[Cassandra]

I remember once getting on 96 hour hold for telling someone I wanted to die. It was on a holiday weekend. i was counting the hours waiting to skedaddle, and the nursing staff told me that holidays don't count toward the 96 and I'd have to stay extra. It was after I got out that I found out they did count

 

[Raccoon1010]

I remember once getting on 96 hour hold for telling someone I wanted to die. It was on a holiday weekend. i was counting the hours waiting to skedaddle, and the nursing staff told me that holidays don't count toward the 96 and I'd have to stay extra. It was after I got out that I found out they did count

Sorry you went thru that. I know we have to be careful what we say to people and I realized for myself that what I say can be confused from the truth that exists in the first place.

There may be an appropriate time to protect someone from possessing spirits that try to throw people in fire and water, and protect people from individuals that are possessed and have become fierce. And I know you previously confirmed their are normal safe people with damage to their brain that is also categorized with the mentally ill label. I think that is what I got from the following scriptures regarding the possessed people also in the mentally ill label:

The "he" in verse 22 is a description of some possessing spirit that is evil of Satan's and his angels:

Mark 9:21 So He asked his father, “How long has this been happening to him?” And he said, “From childhood. 22 And often he has thrown him both into the fire and into the water to destroy him. But if You can do anything, have compassion on us and help us.”

Also is the fierceness of the other story in the New Testament of the devil and his angels for people that they have compromised. I don't really think possession from devils is all that common anyways and probably rare:

Matthew 8:28 When He had come to the other side, to the country of the Gergesenes, there met Him two demon-possessed men, coming out of the tombs, exceedingly fierce, so that no one could pass that way.

And I know someone that was taken from police custody and given over to a psychiatric hospital and he denied taking his medication. And they said they abused him with sock therapy against his will. That happened here in Washington state. I thought people had freedom in this country to choose what happened to their bodies.

And I am reminded of the older days as psychiatry was in development when so called "doctors" used to physically drill holes in the temples of peoples heads and they thought it could allow a possessing spirit to escape. Which is not too many years ago in psychiatric medicine, which concerns me about shock therapy in the first place and whether they are conducting harmful medicine practices. That person that had that shock therapy here in Washington state shortly within a year or two died of a brain tumor. So I wondered how much shock energy is in their machines and whether it could cause cancer in the brain.