Covid-19 Vaccines: have you had a jab?

[Raccoon1010]

Sure you were. Own it.

Interesting that you can read minds and know the hearts of others. I thought only God could do that.

 

[amigo de christo]

@stunnedbygrace & @amigo de christo We must defend ourselves and our families to be right with God. Have mercy when we can. We live in a country that has provided freedom at the cost of many lives. Many have given their lives to defend ours. They have provided that freedom with an ideal. And that ideal is exactly what I stated. Defend ourselves and our families and ultimately our country from all threats foreign and domestic. I served in the military and know full well the need that the USA and other countries have to defend us. And we must do our part and not be hypocrites to be right with God.

I fear not the coming communist beast system . But since you are big on freedom . You might want to expose the MSM and govt .
They are busying forcing or trying to force things on people . That dont sound very free to me , NOW DOES IT .

 

[marks]

But if one is vaccinated with a TRUE and viable vaccine,

That's just it. This isn't a vaccine. Vaccines are dead virus's injected into the body, which teach your body how to kill the live virus. These injections are not dead virus, they are viral proteins which give the virus it's destructive power.

If they injected dead virus, the body would attack and kill the virus. Instead the body responds to the proteins, and not the virus itself.

So the RNA injection, or the proteins injection, neither of these prevent you from getting the disease, neither prevent you from spreading it. It seems fewer viral may plant in your tissue, reducing your viral load, but that's a big maybe. It's like proving a negative. How do you know whether someone would have gotten sicker or not.

And then there is the variant hoax. At least as far as I know, the medical industry isn't doing viral genetic testing many people at all. Claims of this variant or that variant, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, are not founded on empirical testing.

Much love!

 

[Raccoon1010]

One big problem that I see is that the so called vaxed get about with lack of in regards to not keeping their distance and have a huge chip on there shoulder, as if they have a self entitlement over others.

I am sure that many that are anti vaccine and also the ones who are anti Covid Jab are idiots as well, but for the Government and MSM to label all anti-Vaccine people into and with Anti Covid Jab people is extreme prejudice not to mention a total outright lie.

Not to mention most people claim all Jews to be the same as well, but ignorance is bliss.

I am anti Covid Jab for valid reasons, but I despise the anti Vaccine people for valid reasons but don't put me in the same boat as them ?

I am Pro True Israelite for valid reasons ? but I am not a so called Zionist for valid reasons, so I do not want anyone putting me in the same boat as them. but the majority will try to force all under the same umbrella, due to ignorance. but if such dolts detect that I oppose the so called Zionist then the dolts will run about making hair brained delusions of where I am coming from and start labelling me as anti-Semitic or such pathetic childish nonsense dribble that even any dimwit Atheist would swallow. so there is no brain power behind such at all, it's all the workings of delusions on their part because they are totally ignorant and out of depth on the subject, but they have to try and corral you through their only avenue due to their extreme prejudice and total ignorance. so they are much like the Nazis were in fact, only they don't truly know it.

They are dictating and lording it over people ! not to mention that they do not have a valid reason to do so. and I am not ignorant on the Covid Jab as I am informed and I reject being subjected to being like raped with such totally against my will. I will not tolerate being bullied.

I agree for the most part. Although I chose to be vaccinated for various reasons.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I probably wouldn't want the courts to go that far in most cases, but some I back the courts to punish the parents for medical neglect of their children.

I could see this, Although I think it is mre dangerous to give a kid the vaccine now than not to.

 

[Raccoon1010]

I fear not the coming communist beast system . But since you are big on freedom . You might want to expose the MSM and govt .
They are busying forcing or trying to force things on people . That dont sound very free to me , NOW DOES IT .

Yes this is the very issue I don't like. It's not a gov problem, it's a democrat problem. The republicans don't do that.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Of course we can use medicine . Never said we cannot . But as you already know , I aint touching that shot .

And thats your right

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Interesting that you can read minds and know the hearts of others. I thought only God could do that.

Nope. But I can read English.

 

[amigo de christo]

And thats your right

Have you ever noticed that none in the MSM ever once gave thought
to having a valid discussion with both sides about all this . Instead they picked the crazies and used that stuff
to make everyone else who wont touch the vaccine seem crazy . Its my right to also warn those i love
to not take the vaccine . If folks already took it , well then they took it .
But from my own research i see long term dangers .
I never once was concerned about the short term effects . ITS THE LONG TERM ONES I am concerned about .
AND we wont know about that , for maybe even years to come .

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes this is the very issue I don't like. It's not a gov problem, it's a democrat problem. The republicans don't do that.

I am guessing you didnt have a huge banner with BIDEN and HARRIS on your front lawn . LOL . Just a guess .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That's just it. This isn't a vaccine. Vaccines are dead virus's injected into the body, which teach your body how to kill the live virus. These injections are not dead virus, they are viral proteins which give the virus it's destructive power.

If they injected dead virus, the body would attack and kill the virus. Instead the body responds to the proteins, and not the virus itself.

So the RNA injection, or the proteins injection, neither of these prevent you from getting the disease, neither prevent you from spreading it. It seems fewer viral may plant in your tissue, reducing your viral load, but that's a big maybe. It's like proving a negative. How do you know whether someone would have gotten sicker or not.

And then there is the variant hoax. At least as far as I know, the medical industry isn't doing viral genetic testing many people at all. Claims of this variant or that variant, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, are not founded on empirical testing.

Much love!

A vaccine is something that is injected to your system. As apposed to a pill that is taken by mouth. Or a patch that is applied to your skin

Not all vaccines are dead viruses. There are many types.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Nope. But I can read English.

I'm well aware of how it came across. That's not why I engaged into that conversation. I engaged in it to hit on a more important issue. The issue of medical neglect of parents and ending up in prison out of stubbornness and tempting God. There is a good article on the issue here: Religion-related medical neglect -

 

[Raccoon1010]

I am guessing you didnt have a huge banner with BIDEN and HARRIS on your front lawn . LOL . Just a guess .

No I voted for Trump and will continue to vote against those that support the fake rights, abortion and dictatorship. The dems want to further modify the constitution to distort it for the liberal agenda. And the media censorship is a prime example of the rich and powerful trying to dictator the people into their twisted agendas.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Have you ever noticed that none in the MSM ever once gave thought
to having a valid discussion with both sides about all this . Instead they picked the crazies and used that stuff
to make everyone else who wont touch the vaccine seem crazy . Its my right to also warn those i love
to not take the vaccine . If folks already took it , well then they took it .
But from my own research i see long term dangers .
I never once was concerned about the short term effects . ITS THE LONG TERM ONES I am concerned about .
AND we wont know about that , for maybe even years to come .

My friend, You need to think about people who may hear your words.

My daughter in law would love it if they had the vaccine. She is actually;ly mad that God did not create the vaccine sooner so she could have christmas this year wth her mother (Her mother died last christmas)

I know she is not the only one who thinks this.

She questions God as it is (She was raped as a kid. She was molested by her mothers Boy Frieds, her dad was a drunk and she never knew him) she has had a rough life.

If she hear you say the stuff you did. She would probably run from God altogether. I did not even tell her I was positive covid for I was afraid of hw she would react

You want to warn your friends, You have email and a phone you can warn them in private

Your in a public forum. People hear and see what you write. And you will OFFEND many of your words

You scream of the government offending you by trying to force you

Yet here you are trying to force people to believe what you found in the internet about a vaccine which could save their lives.

Sorry bro. I am not with you at all

You want to fight the government, I will with ya

You want to warn your loved ones, Feel free. You have that right

You are on an open public forum in here. You do not have the right to spread fear because your afraid of a vaccine.

No one here has the right to spread fear about anything but the eternal judgment of God if they do not get saved.

 

[amigo de christo]

March onward in the glorious Lord my friends . The coming of the LORD draws ever nigh .

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Ridiculous.

 

[Nancy]

That's just it. This isn't a vaccine. Vaccines are dead virus's injected into the body, which teach your body how to kill the live virus. These injections are not dead virus, they are viral proteins which give the virus it's destructive power.

If they injected dead virus, the body would attack and kill the virus. Instead the body responds to the proteins, and not the virus itself.

So the RNA injection, or the proteins injection, neither of these prevent you from getting the disease, neither prevent you from spreading it. It seems fewer viral may plant in your tissue, reducing your viral load, but that's a big maybe. It's like proving a negative. How do you know whether someone would have gotten sicker or not.

And then there is the variant hoax. At least as far as I know, the medical industry isn't doing viral genetic testing many people at all. Claims of this variant or that variant, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, are not founded on empirical testing.

Much love!

Agreed Marks,
It's those spike proteins that were attached to the covid virus are how the virus gets into us, then travels to the lungs. if man had not intentionally put these spikes on the virus...it would just bounce off a person.
All "vaccines" that actually do have antibodies from a live virus, why not this one I wonder? Hmmmm. I smellz a RAT!!!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

March onward in the glorious Lord my friends . The coming of the LORD draws ever nigh .

Come quickly lord come quickly

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I'm well aware of how it came across. That's not why I engaged into that conversation. I engaged in it to hit on a more important issue. The issue of medical neglect of parents and ending up in prison out of stubbornness and tempting God. There is a good article on the issue here: Religion-related medical neglect -

That’s quite a twisted pretzel!

 

[marks]

No. COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way. Both mRNA and viral vector COVID-19 vaccines deliver instructions (genetic material) to our cells to start building protection against the virus that causes COVID-19. However, the material never enters the nucleus of the cell, which is where our DNA is kept.

The mRNA injections do much the same thing as the virus itself does. It delivers an mRNA package to a cell, which then takes over the functions of that cell to use it to manufacture spike proteins. Once the cell is burned out that way, it bursts and releases the spike proteins into your system. You body responds by manufacturing immunity cells against those proteins.

These mRNA injections don't produce immunity against the virus itself, which is what a true vaccine does. A true vaccine doesn't leave your blood stream, doesn't hijack your cells, doesn't send out harmful foreign proteins into your body.

Now I want to be clear, If someone thinks they should get vaccinated, I think they probibly should. But I'm not planning to myself. I think I'm susceptible to getting it, but produce very low viral load. I've had it 2, and I'm pretty sure a 3rd time, mild, 8-9 months apart. I'll take that immunity any day!

Now, if only the Despots would allow us Ivermectin, and these other therapeutics that bring the risk to virtually 0! Instead of taking advantage to practice being draconian.

Much love!