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Giuliano

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The world will blame Trump for their own shortcomings. Even to citing celebrities to bolster their denial of fault. The empty shelves are not peculiar to America. Same here in Australia. The reason? Sinful selfishness and greed. Got nothing to do with government.
I think panicking has a lot to do with government. Most panic is based on uncertainty. If people don't trust their government to keep things running smoothly, they panic.

I wrote to Trump quite early on in his term. I told him what I would like to be able to trust him. I said I wished if he said something, I could believe what he was said was true. He probably didn't see my letter, and he surely has not learned the value of earning the trust of the people.

I understand his motive for saying some of the things he said earlier. He was trying to calm people, trying to avoid people panicking. His motive was right; but he did it wrong when a few days later we found out he lied. That eroded trust. He went for a short term gain and lost in the long term.

He also said in his inauguration speech he wanted to the president of all the people, not just of those who voted for him. I didn't know whether to believe him. I hoped he meant it. He didn't. Partisan bickering only got worse. The approval ratings of many presidents go up over time. His hasn't. He continues to appeal to his base and to them alone. Other people don't trust him, they don't like him. He missed the opportunity to pick up more support and to increase the base of people who trusted him. Almost no one who voted against him in 2016 is now for him. The opposite isn't true, at least not where I live. Farmers are going bankrupt here in Pennsylvania. His promises to them did not come true. He also promised the people of Pennsylvania that he'd bring back manufacturing jobs. He hasn't. I have a friend whose father works in manufacturing. That company is struggling to survive. People are worried it may go under and they'll be out of work.

Trump promised to bring back manufacturing in Pennsylvania. He didn’t. Will it cost him?

Broken promises add up over time. People lose faith in leaders when they can see they lied. We see something similar happening in American relations with other countries. Other world leaders do not trust Trump. Alliances are crumbling.
 

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Here are the latest stats (Jan 27, 2020 - 11:05 am Mountain Time)...

Total Confirmed: 2,886
Total Deaths: 81
Total Recovered: 59
US Cases: 5

*** ATTENTION UNITED STATES ***
YOU ARE HERE!

You are now officially where China was nearly two months ago...

US Cases: 2,951

In other words...

You are at the very beginning stages of what several of us tried to warn you about at the start of this thread. Things are about to get WAY worse.

As I and others have already stated... THIS IS A BIO-WEAPONS RELEASE. That is why you are seeing these unprecedented series of events unfolding before you. The protocols are the same.

I really didn't think the US Government would admit it, but still... I had some hopes that they would. Maybe Trump will come clean. There is still time. Who knows for sure.

As a side note, there is a Biblical reason why this is happening. This is the third time I've been able to see this coming ahead of time and warn others. How? It's very simple.

This verse reveals the Prophecy...

Revelation 22:18
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book"


Since most of you here are way too full of yourselves to understand what I'm about to say next, I'm not going to even bother reading your idiotic responses. This message is for the rare individual who Truly has the Spirit of God in them and can discern the message...

The Word of God is DNA and DNA is the Word of God.

That's it. That's all One needs to know in order to have advanced warning of the next Pandemic.

The way it's been unfolding is this...

Every time there is a 'breakthrough' in DNA tinkering, with regards to Human Genetics, an outbreak occurs right on schedule. It usually takes a few weeks, but this time it took a bit longer. I'm assuming because God was giving enough time for his people to prepare for it.

When news broke of China creating Hybrid Humans, I instantly knew that there was going to be another warning.

So what is the point? Why is God doing this?

Because...

THE MARK OF THE BEAST IS TRANSHUMANISM.

Anyone that tells you otherwise is either part of the agenda to hide this information, or they are just plain deceived.

It is the same thing that happened in the Days of Noah and it's happening now. Unfortunately, some of you here will most likely take the Mark because you still think it's some 'Microchip Implant' or 'Sunday Worship Laws' or whatever.

When your doctor tells you that you can cure your Cancer with 'Gene Therapy', you won't think twice to say YES!!! On top of that, folks like me will be greatly hated for speaking Truth. Think Two Witnesses.

That's the Devil for you. Once you add unto the words of your God given DNA Book of Life, you are done. No turning back. No forgiveness. It is the Unpardonable Sin.

You have now placed an idol in your Temple. These Pandemics are the perfect Trojan Horse to implement mass vaccination of the public that are designed to alter the Genetics of the Human Race. Maybe not this time around, but someday.

You have been warned.

Base12 out.
 

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Moving on now. I see Gary Kasporov tweeted..
And why should we believe anything said by anti-Trumper Garry Kasparov? Another one who suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome. The thing today is that the anti-Trumpers and Never-Trumpers have LOST ALL CREDIBILITY. They have totally gone into Fake News, so that no one can believe them any more.

No matter if Trump does something outstanding they still spew their venom at him. Just like idiot Don Lemon trying to contradict John Kasich because he said Trump had done a fine job in addressing the coronovirus issue. And Kasich is no buddy of Trump's.
 

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And why should we believe anything said by anti-Trumper Garry Kasparov? Another one who suffers from Trump Derangement Syndrome. The thing today is that the anti-Trumpers and Never-Trumpers have LOST ALL CREDIBILITY. They have totally gone into Fake News, so that no one can believe them any more.
No matter if Trump does something outstanding they still spew their venom at him. Just like idiot Don Lemon trying to contradict John Kasich because he said Trump had done a fine job in addressing the coronovirus issue. And Kasich is no buddy of Trump's.
Do you know what you're doing? Calling names. That's what young children do in elementary school. It's what Trump does. It's fallacious reasoning, illogical reasoning -- known as the argumentum ad hominem. To someone with a rational mind, Trump often appears to be babbling -- as you appear to be now in this thread when your response is all about insults and not very clever insults at that, since you are parroting the same old tired insults you've heard elsewhere. Enoch! Rub two brain cells together and see if you can come up with a thought of your own and on your own instead of parroting insults.

Kasparov if anyone should know if Trump is making the US look like the USSR. Kasparov had another witty Tweet in 2016 when Mike Pence said Putin was a strong leader. "Governor Pence, Vladimir Putin is a strong leader in the same way arsenic is a strong drink. Your country should be ashamed of you."
 

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Yehren notes:
Most Americans do not trust President Donald Trump to be honest about the COVID-19 threat, a new poll has found.

MOST AMERICANS DO NOT TRUST POLLS.


Might be so or maybe not so. How would you know? A poll? :oops: The cool thing about reality, though, is it's remarkably resistant to your feelings. It just keeps on being what it is. The polls for 2016 and 2018 elections were remarkably accurate, less than 2% off in each case. Would you like me to show you?

Polls are another tool of the Left-Liberal media to promote Trump Derangement Syndrome

In the sense that they are now driving Trump crazy. But since polls as we see them today, started in the 1930s, I'm thinking even the worst victim of Trump Derangement Syndrome wouldn't be crazy enough to imagine that the liberals in the 1930s started polls because they knew someday Trump would run for president. I mean, he wasn't even born then. For all the Trump Derangement we see in some of his crazier supporters, that's still too crazy for most of them.

(which has infected a few Christians on this forum).

Perhaps, but Donald Trump remains the classic case.
 

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Moving on now. I see Gary Kasporov tweeted, "Long lines & empty shelves in stores and a leader nobody believes on TV saying everything is fine. Back in the USSR!" And to think Trump did it in about three years.

Now, that's funny.
 
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As the United States grapples with the novel coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump said on Friday that he didn’t know “anything about” a reorganization of the National Security Council that dismantled a key pandemics office nearly two years ago.

The head of that team, Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, left suddenly after the team was disbanded in 2018 along with other members of the office; he had been tasked with how the country responds to a threat like the novel coronavirus.

When Trump was asked by the PBS NewsHour’s Yamiche Alcindor this afternoon about whether he took responsibility for the decision, the president called it a nasty question, saying it wasn’t him and gesturing to other members of his administration that were part of a group of people that make decisions.

“We’re doing a great job,” he added.

Beth Cameron, the former head of the pandemics office who now works at the Nuclear Threat Initiative, wrote an op-ed in Friday’s Washington Post in which she said that the lack of a pandemics office meant the White House was without both speed and leadership when handling the crisis. “We lost valuable time,” she wrote.
WATCH: 'I didn't do it,' Trump says of disbanding pandemics office

Apparently, low-level WH people are running things, and Trump just flaps around "being president." This is why it's a disaster to have a president who doesn't read, and insists on one-paragraph briefings.
 

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Do you know what you're doing? Calling names. That's what young children do in elementary school. It's what Trump does. It's fallacious reasoning, illogical reasoning -- known as the argumentum ad hominem.
A few years ago I had my teenagers watch Rachael Maddow with me and then we switched over to Fox News and watched that. When we were done, I asked them what they thought. They both talked about how Maddow's show was sober and intellectual, where she would say things, and then she'd bring on an expert and start off by asking them "did I get anything wrong". So they saw her as being focused on being informative and accurate. Then when we talked about Fox News, they laughed and talked about how there was a lot of yelling and name-calling. They didn't really bring on any experts and instead just brought out more talking heads who also yelled and called people names. They also noticed how flashy the FN graphics were and how the women wore sleeveless dresses with short skirts.

IMO, that's much of what the right-wing in the US has become. A lot of yelling and name-calling, but not much in the way of information and facts.
 

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A few years ago I had my teenagers watch Rachael Maddow with me and then we switched over to Fox News and watched that. When we were done, I asked them what they thought. They both talked about how Maddow's show was sober and intellectual, where she would say things, and then she'd bring on an expert and start off by asking them "did I get anything wrong". So they saw her as being focused on being informative and accurate. Then when we talked about Fox News, they laughed and talked about how there was a lot of yelling and name-calling. They didn't really bring on any experts and instead just brought out more talking heads who also yelled and called people names. They also noticed how flashy the FN graphics were and how the women wore sleeveless dresses with short skirts.

IMO, that's much of what the right-wing in the US has become. A lot of yelling and name-calling, but not much in the way of information and facts.
You gave me some hope for the future generation.
 
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Around 7-8% deaths from the total number of confirmed coronavirus cases in Italy, that's pretty serious.

I wonder what has happened to all the people saying its no big deal.
 

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Around 7-8% deaths from the total number of confirmed coronavirus cases in Italy, that's pretty serious.

I wonder what has happened to all the people saying its no big deal.
That number could be misleading. Remember that Italy has oldest population in Europe. Most of the deaths have been people in their 80's and 90's. That number might be lower among the old people if preventative measures had been taken sooner.

The number could also be misleading because it's possible (probable even) that many cases among younger people have gone undiagnosed. If resources are limited and doctors are seeing only the sickest people, it's probable that a lot more people have it but aren't that sick.
 

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That number could be misleading. Remember that Italy has oldest population in Europe. Most of the deaths have been people in their 80's and 90's. That number might be lower among the old people if preventative measures had been taken sooner.

The number could also be misleading because it's possible (probable even) that many cases among younger people have gone undiagnosed. If resources are limited and doctors are seeing only the sickest people, it's probable that a lot more people have it but aren't that sick.

Hmm, I think there are still a lot of unconfirmed cases, but just saying out of confirmed cases.
 

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Hmm, I think there are still a lot of unconfirmed cases, but just saying out of confirmed cases.
It might not be that high if more people had been tested. It could be that the elderly are the sickest and the ones getting tested. The Italians had other problems too.

I'm not sure exactly what Italy was short on; but China was shipping them respirators and face masks. That tells me they had been short on those. The mortality rate may go down dramatically when they get the respirators.

China sends medical supplies, experts to help Italy battle coronavirus

A planeload of medical supplies, including masks and respirators, has arrived in Italy from China to help it deal with its growing coronavirus crisis.

The coronavirus outbreak began in China late last year but has since swept the globe. Italy is now the worst-affected nation in the world after China, with 1,016 dead and 15,113 confirmed cases since the contagion came to light there on Feb. 21.

A team of nine Chinese medical staff arrived late on Thursday with some 30 tonnes of equipment on a flight organized by the Chinese Red Cross.
 

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A few years ago I had my teenagers watch Rachael Maddow with me and then we switched over to Fox News and watched that. When we were done, I asked them what they thought. They both talked about how Maddow's show was sober and intellectual, where she would say things, and then she'd bring on an expert and start off by asking them "did I get anything wrong". So they saw her as being focused on being informative and accurate. Then when we talked about Fox News, they laughed and talked about how there was a lot of yelling and name-calling. They didn't really bring on any experts and instead just brought out more talking heads who also yelled and called people names. They also noticed how flashy the FN graphics were and how the women wore sleeveless dresses with short skirts.

IMO, that's much of what the right-wing in the US has become. A lot of yelling and name-calling, but not much in the way of information and facts.
Seriously??? Rachel Maddow is your recommended role model to your children for unbiased journalism????!!!!!
 

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I find it interesting, curious, that the majority of anti Trump folk on this forum are Catholics. In fact, are there any Catholics here who support Trump? Why would that be I wonder?
 

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Seriously??? Rachel Maddow is your recommended role model to your children for unbiased journalism????!!!!!
I didn't say anything about bias. We know full well she's liberally biased just like we know Hannity is conservatively biased.

The point was about presentation style.
 

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The young, if they are healthy, could quite readily contract the virus and present no symptoms whatsoever. And yet carry the virus into nursing homes, to Grandpa's and Grandma's, and totally innocently affect an entire generation of aging parents and grandparents. If you are healthy, you really have nothing to fear.
 

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Lack of information has led to hoarding and Americans are fighting over paper towels in stores.
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