CHANGING Times

[Brakelite]

KJV Colossians 1:27
27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Has the above been fully realized yet? I think not. Are we willing to admit as much? Remember Jesus prayed,
KJV John 17:11, 21-23
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.....
....21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Christ in us as Christ prayed for above? It has to happen... Would the Father not answer His prayer? It did take place in a local sense at pentecost in the time of early rain, but there is to be a global latter rain... Are we ready for that? Do we feel we need to be ready,? Is Christ in us so wholly and intimately that the relationship between us resembles that between Jesus and His Father?

 

[quietthinker]

Oh, and Daylight Savings too--the very idea-- Hallelujah! Praise be to God!

for everything there is a time. Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 ....a time for putting on diapers, a time for taking them off....and blow me down, if you live long enough there'll be a time for putting them on again!

 

[quietthinker]

KJV Colossians 1:27
27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Has the above been fully realized yet? I think not. Are we willing to admit as much? Remember Jesus prayed,
KJV John 17:11, 21-23
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.....
....21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

Christ in us as Christ prayed for above? It has to happen... Would the Father not answer His prayer? It did take place in a local sense at pentecost in the time of early rain, but there is to be a global latter rain... Are we ready for that? Do we feel we need to be ready,? Is Christ in us so wholly and intimately that the relationship between us resembles that between Jesus and His Father?

The glory of Jesus is manifest in submission in the face of rejection/persecution/death.....submission in that he did did not retaliate in kind but trusted his Father's judgement......in the face of knowing that ten thousand angels were at his command with a word.
We (those who know Jesus) are called to share this glory.....a glory the world does not understand, nor can it.

 

[BarneyFife]

for everything there is a time. Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 ....a time for putting on diapers, a time for taking them off....and blow me down, if you live long enough there'll be a time for putting them on again!

You slay me, QT!..

 

[quietthinker]

You slay me, QT!..

resurrection is around the corner Barney!

 

[MatthewG]

Lol qt, how true.

 

[amadeus]

I see it here everyday.

The scriptures (even those we have, let alone all the books that could be written of Christ), are misunderstood here and everywhere in Christendom. It would be too much to list them all, but a few recent examples are:

• The Catholics refer to the [worldly] elements as Christ's literal body and blood, when He said, "This is my body...(you are my body)...eat of me." So, what then, shall we eat of each other? But, no, Christ is from above, that mana from above--from God, whom is spirit.
• Many see the waters of [this world] as having healing powers, even salvation. Again, these are from above, not of this world.
• And that man of sin that should be revealed-- People of sin look outside themselves for another, even when God has revealed sin in them. And they have made that their doctrine. Not seeing that one instead of themselves, not seeing the speck in their own eye, they push it off expecting that he is surely yet to come, even though God has revealed that man since Adam.

Pick any bit of scripture, or anything of God that has not yet been revealed--the dimness is everywhere.

And I am happy to show you with any scripture. Just name it.

Centuries ago, apostle Paul recognized that dimness:

"For now we see through a glass, darkly...now I know in part..."

But... Paul knew also that there something better, something for which to hope:

"...but then face to face...but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12

Who can see His face now?

"And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live." Exodus 33:20

But then, who is seeking it?

"When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek." Psalm 27:8

And the final result, the final clarity of vision is found, where?

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." I John 3:2

We really must see Him! Did not Solomon write about it 3000 years ago?

"Where there is no vision, the people perish..." Prov 29:18

But then Jesus was sent to men:

"And Jesus stood still, and called them, and said, What will ye that I shall do unto you?
They say unto him, Lord, that our eyes may be opened.
So Jesus had compassion on them, and touched their eyes: and immediately their eyes received sight, and they followed him." Matt 20:32-34

"And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.
And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.
After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly." Mark 8:23-25

 

[BarneyFife]

Centuries ago, apostle Paul recognized that dimness:

"For now we see through a glass, darkly...now I know in part..."

But... Paul knew also that there something better, something for which to hope:

"...but then face to face...but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12

Who can see His face now?

"And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live." Exodus 33:20

But then, who is seeking it?

"When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek." Psalm 27:8

And the final result, the final clarity of vision is found, where?

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." I John 3:2

We really must see Him! Did not Solomon write about it 3000 years ago?

"Where there is no vision, the people perish..." Prov 29:18

But then Jesus was sent to men:

"And Jesus stood still, and called them, and said, What will ye that I shall do unto you?
They say unto him, Lord, that our eyes may be opened.
So Jesus had compassion on them, and touched their eyes: and immediately their eyes received sight, and they followed him." Matt 20:32-34

"And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.
And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.
After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly." Mark 8:23-25

Can't argue with that.

With reverence let the saints appear,
And bow before the Lord;
His high commands with reverence hear,
And tremble at His Word.
And tremble at His Word.

How terrible Thy glories be!
How bright Thine armies shine!
Where is the power that vies with Thee,
Or truth compared to Thine?
Or truth compared to Thine?

The northern pole and southern rest
On Thy supporting hand;
Darkness and day, from east to west,
Move round at Thy command.
Move round at Thy command.

Thy words the raging winds control,
And rule the boisterous deep;
Thou mak’st the sleeping billows roll,
The rolling billows sleep.
The rolling billows sleep.

Heav’n, earth, and air, and sea, are Thine,
And the dark world of hell;
How did Thine arm in vengeance shine
When Egypt durst [did] rebel!
When Egypt durst [did] rebel!

Justice and judgment are Thy throne,
Yet wondrous is Thy grace;
While truth and mercy, joined in one,
Invite us near Thy face.
Invite us near Thy face.

(I LOVE HYMNS!!)

:)

 

[farouk]

The Lord Jesus is Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, the first and the last (Revelation).

 

[Waiting on him]

Matthew 6:22-23 KJV
[22] The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light. [23] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

 

[farouk]

Can't argue with that.

With reverence let the saints appear,
And bow before the Lord;
His high commands with reverence hear,
And tremble at His Word.
And tremble at His Word.

How terrible Thy glories be!
How bright Thine armies shine!
Where is the power that vies with Thee,
Or truth compared to Thine?
Or truth compared to Thine?

The northern pole and southern rest
On Thy supporting hand;
Darkness and day, from east to west,
Move round at Thy command.
Move round at Thy command.

Thy words the raging winds control,
And rule the boisterous deep;
Thou mak’st the sleeping billows roll,
The rolling billows sleep.
The rolling billows sleep.

Heav’n, earth, and air, and sea, are Thine,
And the dark world of hell;
How did Thine arm in vengeance shine
When Egypt durst [did] rebel!
When Egypt durst [did] rebel!

Justice and judgment are Thy throne,
Yet wondrous is Thy grace;
While truth and mercy, joined in one,
Invite us near Thy face.
Invite us near Thy face.

(I LOVE HYMNS!!)

:)

@BarnyFife Great hymn there! do you remember who wrote it?

 

[BarneyFife]

@BarnyFife Great hymn there! do you remember who wrote it?

Words by Isaac Watts
Music by William B.
Bradbury

:)

 

[farouk]

Words by Isaac Watts
Music by William B.
Bradbury

:)

Thanks, @BarnyFife So it's one of Isaac Watts'..... :)