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All was defeated by CHRIST at the cross . But if the jesus we follow contradicts the JESUS CHRIST of GOD
then we are not made partakers of HE who defeated all evil at the cross , but rather are still sons and daughters of evil .
That be a painful fact many do not want to believe .
But this gringo shall continue by grace to remind all about .
JESUS defeated satan himself , but satan still prowls about decieving whom he will .
IF ya jesus aint JESUS then you still under satan . Thus if our jesus contradicts THE JESUS IN THE BIBLE
guess who we still serve and love ..............SATAN . Now that is NOT a good end .
Satan uses the name of JESUS , but do beware cause the jesus he preaches wont save SQUAT
for the jesus he preaches serves himself and the flesh . YEAH , ponder on that for a bit my dear , dear friend .
THE RCC is a harlot but she aint the only harlot . And the time to be grave is BIG TIME upon us now .
OH i know we been taught to ease up , to tone it down , to not judge . TELL that to the souls who persihed under a lie .
Cause i just bet they would be just like the rich man was , WISHING TO HECK they had heeded the truth
while there was still time and wishing to heck they could send lazarous to the house of so many so as they
would not join them in that hellascious place of torment . FOLKS ACT LIKE WE GOT ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD
but had the rich man known his last hour , YOU can bet he had repented . NO SIR
this lamb gonna warn , gonna be grave , gonna be serious . CAUSE i KNOW THE END OF THOSE WHO LOVED A LIE
ITS ETERNAL TORMENT . I DONT DESIRE THEIR DEATH . My home is not HERE , my KINGDOM is not of this world
and i could give five cares less about the pleasures and easy life and lets just get along DUNG CRAP most now preach .
TIME we got real serious . cause not you , not me , not any knows when anyones day is up .
BETTER we get serious and preach JESUS and all biblical doctrine NOW , as no man knows what even the next hour
might hold , let alone tomorrow , MIGHT BRING . no man knows when their TIME or another ones time is up .
IF ONLY folks had that mindset , WOW what a truth might have been preached to all .
Satan has deceived many that believe that they are already saved because they belong to some sort of a phony religion. Instead of trusting in Christ and his Gospel they are trusting in their religion to save them. Jesus said, "Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, didn't we?" Matthew 7:21-23. They were trust in themselves and their worthless religion. What are they going to do when Jesus appears? They are going to run and hide from him.
 
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Satan has deceived many that believe that they are already saved because they belong to some sort of a phony religion. Instead of trusting in Christ and his Gospel they are trusting in their religion to save them. Jesus said, "Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, didn't we?" Matthew 7:21-23. They were trust in themselves and their worthless religion. What are they going to do when Jesus appears? They are going to run and hide from him.
Are we trusting IN JESUS CHRIST if we are NOT TRUSTING IN HIS WORDS .
the answer is NO .
Many follow another jesus , it aint CHRIST and it cannot save them .
ME , i believe EVERYTHING JESUS said . My advice , ITS TIME WE ALL DO THE SAME .
 

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Happy Thanksgiving to @Illuminator and may God grant you to know the Way, the Truth and the Life

Paganism, along with all sins was defeated on the Cross by our Savior = LORD Jesus Christ

To HIM alone all praise and Glory be to the Glory of God the FATHER, JESUS the SON and the Holy Spirit

"Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands." - Acts 17:23
Tyical non-answer . . .
On other words - you don't have a valid response for the historical spanking @Illuminator gave you.

You guys are great at pointing fingers and hurling false accusatjons. But when it comes to giving answers - you never seem to have any . . .
 

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YEah RIGHT . STAY DUG IN THE BIBLE my friends. A harlot knows how to decieve .
And what would you have told the millions and millions of people living in the first 3 centuries when there was NO Bible?

And what would youhave tolde the millions and millions of people who didn't have Bible for the nest 1200 years because there was NO printing press and therefoe, NO ability to own a Bible??

What should they have "stayed dug" in? Are they all in Hell??
I'll wait right here for your ancwer . . .
 

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In the first few centuries, when pagan temples were knocked down and replaced by Catholic basilicas, when pagan holidays days were transformed into memorials to the martyrs, saints, and the Lord, there was no misconception about what was taking place. It was an absolute triumph of the Church over paganism. The winter solstice was the astronomical event, written into God’s creation as well as the calendar, used to commemorate Christ’s coming as “The Light of the World.”

This was not going be a half-hearted holiday. Happiness can’t be quantified or rationed. The birth of Christ was bound to be marked with excess because of the spontaneous nature of exuberance.

Have a Merry Christmas
Were the statues of the old pagan gods replaced /renamed as statues of saints?
 
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And what would you have told the millions and millions of people living in the first 3 centuries when there was NO Bible?

And what would youhave tolde the millions and millions of people who didn't have Bible for the nest 1200 years because there was NO printing press and therefoe, NO ability to own a Bible??

What should they have "stayed dug" in? Are they all in Hell??
I'll wait right here for your ancwer . . .
The same thing i tell you now . IF THE SCRIPTURES did not exist , WHY DID BOTH PAUL and PETER remind the church
about them and to learn them . THEY DID .
NOW its true the letters of the apostels themselves had not yet been canonized per say . BUT EVEN THEIR LETTERS
they had read to the churches . SO IT was already THERE . DONT let men lie to you either . PS , do flee the RCC , for she is deadly dangerous .
 

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The same thing i tell you now . IF THE SCRIPTURES did not exist , WHY DID BOTH PAUL and PETER remind the church
about them and to learn them . THEY DID .
NOW its true the letters of the apostels themselves had not yet been canonized per say . BUT EVEN THEIR LETTERS
they had read to the churches . SO IT was already THERE . DONT let men lie to you either . PS , do flee the RCC , for she is deadly dangerous .
Noe, that’s a really impotent and historically-bankrupt response.
Time for a History Lesson . . .

There was NO declared Canon of Scripture until the 4th century – 383 AD, to be exact.

Before then, all the individual Church communities had had were individual Letters – and not every community had ALL of them. They also had many other Letters, like the Shepherd of Hermas, the Gospel of Peter, the Epistles of Barnabas, the Protoevangelium of James, etc.

They didn’t have copies for every individual to own for “personal” study. They belonged to the community and were read aloud when they gathered.

The Synod of Rome (382) is where the canon was first formally identified – ALL 73 (not 66) Books.
- 11 years after that, it was confirmed at the Synod of Hippo (393).
- 4 years later, at the Council (or Synod) of Carthage (397), it was yet again confirmed. The bishops wrote at the end of their document, "But let Church beyond sea (Rome) be consulted about confirming this canon". There were 44 bishops, including St. Augustine who signed the document.
- 7 years later, in 405, in a letter from Pope Innocent I to Exsuperius, Bishop of Toulouse, he reiterated the canon.
- 14 years after that, at the 2nd Council (Synod) of Carthage (419) the canon was again formally confirmed.

The Canon of Scripture was officially closed at the Council of Trent in the 16th century because of the perversions happening within Protestantism and the random editing and deleting of books from the Canon.

So, I ask you again –
WHAT would you have told the millions and millions of people living in the first 3 centuries when there was NO Bible – or the millions who didn't have Bible for the next 200 years because there was NO printing press and therefore, NO ability to own a Bible??
 

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Noe, that’s a really impotent and historically-bankrupt response.
Time for a History Lesson . . .

There was NO declared Canon of Scripture until the 4th century – 383 AD, to be exact.

Before then, all the individual Church communities had had were individual Letters – and not every community had ALL of them. They also had many other Letters, like the Shepherd of Hermas, the Gospel of Peter, the Epistles of Barnabas, the Protoevangelium of James, etc.

They didn’t have copies for every individual to own for “personal” study. They belonged to the community and were read aloud when they gathered.

The Synod of Rome (382) is where the canon was first formally identified – ALL 73 (not 66) Books.
- 11 years after that, it was confirmed at the Synod of Hippo (393).
- 4 years later, at the Council (or Synod) of Carthage (397), it was yet again confirmed. The bishops wrote at the end of their document, "But let Church beyond sea (Rome) be consulted about confirming this canon". There were 44 bishops, including St. Augustine who signed the document.
- 7 years later, in 405, in a letter from Pope Innocent I to Exsuperius, Bishop of Toulouse, he reiterated the canon.
- 14 years after that, at the 2nd Council (Synod) of Carthage (419) the canon was again formally confirmed.

The Canon of Scripture was officially closed at the Council of Trent in the 16th century because of the perversions happening within Protestantism and the random editing and deleting of books from the Canon.

So, I ask you again –

WHAT would you have told the millions and millions of people living in the first 3 centuries when there was NO Bible – or the millions who didn't have Bible for the next 200 years because there was NO printing press and therefore, NO ability to own a Bible??

2 Timothy 3:10-17
But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra—what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me.
Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
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Noe, that’s a really impotent and historically-bankrupt response.
Time for a History Lesson . . .

There was NO declared Canon of Scripture until the 4th century – 383 AD, to be exact.

Before then, all the individual Church communities had had were individual Letters – and not every community had ALL of them. They also had many other Letters, like the Shepherd of Hermas, the Gospel of Peter, the Epistles of Barnabas, the Protoevangelium of James, etc.

They didn’t have copies for every individual to own for “personal” study. They belonged to the community and were read aloud when they gathered.

The Synod of Rome (382) is where the canon was first formally identified – ALL 73 (not 66) Books.
- 11 years after that, it was confirmed at the Synod of Hippo (393).
- 4 years later, at the Council (or Synod) of Carthage (397), it was yet again confirmed. The bishops wrote at the end of their document, "But let Church beyond sea (Rome) be consulted about confirming this canon". There were 44 bishops, including St. Augustine who signed the document.
- 7 years later, in 405, in a letter from Pope Innocent I to Exsuperius, Bishop of Toulouse, he reiterated the canon.
- 14 years after that, at the 2nd Council (Synod) of Carthage (419) the canon was again formally confirmed.

The Canon of Scripture was officially closed at the Council of Trent in the 16th century because of the perversions happening within Protestantism and the random editing and deleting of books from the Canon.

So, I ask you again –

WHAT would you have told the millions and millions of people living in the first 3 centuries when there was NO Bible – or the millions who didn't have Bible for the next 200 years because there was NO printing press and therefore, NO ability to own a Bible??
I was talking bout the torah , they had that . And yes they did share letters amongst the churches .
Just cause there was not an OFFICAL declaration that it was yet canon . THEY still had them letters .
What do you think POLY CARP was recopying . letters from paul and peter . SO there is some history for ya .
Now flee the RCC .
 

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2 Timothy 3:10-17
But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra—what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me.
Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Thats right my friend. Contend for the true faith till the last breath .
 

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2 Timothy 3:10-17
But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra—what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me.
Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

joy: :Happy:joy:
 
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Were the statues of the old pagan gods replaced /renamed as statues of saints?
Yes, but that is a clear indication of the Church's triumph over paganism, not a concession to it. Roman pagans aborted babies, had sex orgies. and women priests served as prostitutes in pagan temples. Pagan amorality was totally disgusting to early church Christians, and so was their food. The "pagan influence fallacy" is in fact, a fallacy, but it makes lots of money.
The pagan influence fallacy has not gone away in the twentieth century, but newer archaeology and more mature scholarship have diminished its influence. Yet there are still many committing it.
 

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The same thing i tell you now . IF THE SCRIPTURES did not exist , WHY DID BOTH PAUL and PETER remind the church
about them and to learn them . THEY DID .
NOW its true the letters of the apostels themselves had not yet been canonized per say . BUT EVEN THEIR LETTERS
they had read to the churches . SO IT was already THERE . DONT let men lie to you either . PS , do flee the RCC , for she is deadly dangerous .
Many writings were believed by some to be inspired, like the Gospel of Thomas, or a dozen Books of Acts.
In order for Protestants to exercise the principles of sola Scriptura they first have to accept the antecedent premise of what books constitute Scripture — in particular, the New Testament books. This is not as simple as it may seem at first, accustomed as we are to accepting without question the New Testament as we have it today.

Although indeed there was, roughly speaking, a broad consensus in the early Church as to what books were scriptural, there still existed enough divergence of opinion to reasonably cast doubt on the Protestant concepts of the Bible’s self-authenticating nature, and the self-interpreting maxim of perspicuity.

A Visual Diagram of the History of the New Testament Canon


Sources for New Testament Canon Chart (all Protestant):
1) J. D. Douglas, editor, New Bible Dictionary, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1962 edition, 194-198.
2) F. L. Cross and E. A. Livingstone, editors, The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2nd edition, 1983, 232, 300, 309-10, 626, 641, 724, 1049, 1069.
3) Norman L. Geisler & William E. Nix, From God to Us: How We Got Our Bible, Chicago: Moody Press, 1974, 109-12, 117-125.


Amigo, the BIBLE did not produce the CHURCH, it's the other way around.
 
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Many writings were believed by some to be inspired, like the Gospel of Thomas, or a dozen Books of Acts.
In order for Protestants to exercise the principles of sola Scriptura they first have to accept the antecedent premise of what books constitute Scripture — in particular, the New Testament books. This is not as simple as it may seem at first, accustomed as we are to accepting without question the New Testament as we have it today.

Although indeed there was, roughly speaking, a broad consensus in the early Church as to what books were scriptural, there still existed enough divergence of opinion to reasonably cast doubt on the Protestant concepts of the Bible’s self-authenticating nature, and the self-interpreting maxim of perspicuity.

A Visual Diagram of the History of the New Testament Canon


Sources for New Testament Canon Chart (all Protestant):
1) J. D. Douglas, editor, New Bible Dictionary, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1962 edition, 194-198.
2) F. L. Cross and E. A. Livingstone, editors, The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2nd edition, 1983, 232, 300, 309-10, 626, 641, 724, 1049, 1069.
3) Norman L. Geisler & William E. Nix, From God to Us: How We Got Our Bible, Chicago: Moody Press, 1974, 109-12, 117-125.


Amigo, the BIBLE did not produce the CHURCH, it's the other way around.
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
Then God said,...................................."

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
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2 Timothy 3:10-17
But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra—what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me.
Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution. But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.
But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
Hello David,

I am not sure what point you are trying to make in your response to @BreadOfLife!!!

By quoting a letter from Paul to his student Timothy are you trying to make a point that the 1st century Church DID have established Scripture? Do you believe the line, from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, is evidence of your theory?

Since that letter to Timothy was written around 67AD what was established Holy Scripture at that time? What was the Holy Scripture that Paul was referring too?

Notice how Paul said that "from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures". That means that Paul is referring to "Holy Scripture" from many, many years BEFORE he wrote that letter to Timothy. Is it possible that Paul was referring to what we now call the Old Testament as Holy Scripture? I mean after all, logically there was not NT Holy Scripture yet so Paul had to have meant OT Scripture. Right?

Your thoughts? Or @amigo de christo thoughts since he seems to like/support your theory!!

Mary
 

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"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.
Yup, Spirit and water. Just like when Jesus was baptized. Just like when we are baptized! We are born again in Spirit and water!
 

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Many writings were believed by some to be inspired, like the Gospel of Thomas, or a dozen Books of Acts.
In order for Protestants to exercise the principles of sola Scriptura they first have to accept the antecedent premise of what books constitute Scripture — in particular, the New Testament books. This is not as simple as it may seem at first, accustomed as we are to accepting without question the New Testament as we have it today.

Although indeed there was, roughly speaking, a broad consensus in the early Church as to what books were scriptural, there still existed enough divergence of opinion to reasonably cast doubt on the Protestant concepts of the Bible’s self-authenticating nature, and the self-interpreting maxim of perspicuity.

A Visual Diagram of the History of the New Testament Canon


Sources for New Testament Canon Chart (all Protestant):
1) J. D. Douglas, editor, New Bible Dictionary, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1962 edition, 194-198.
2) F. L. Cross and E. A. Livingstone, editors, The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2nd edition, 1983, 232, 300, 309-10, 626, 641, 724, 1049, 1069.
3) Norman L. Geisler & William E. Nix, From God to Us: How We Got Our Bible, Chicago: Moody Press, 1974, 109-12, 117-125.


Amigo, the BIBLE did not produce the CHURCH, it's the other way around.
I appreciate your history lesson. @amigo de christo and @David in NJ will reject it I am sure, but the truth and our own Christian history MUST be spoken without fear.

Mary
 

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Many writings were believed by some to be inspired, like the Gospel of Thomas, or a dozen Books of Acts.
In order for Protestants to exercise the principles of sola Scriptura they first have to accept the antecedent premise of what books constitute Scripture — in particular, the New Testament books. This is not as simple as it may seem at first, accustomed as we are to accepting without question the New Testament as we have it today.

Although indeed there was, roughly speaking, a broad consensus in the early Church as to what books were scriptural, there still existed enough divergence of opinion to reasonably cast doubt on the Protestant concepts of the Bible’s self-authenticating nature, and the self-interpreting maxim of perspicuity.

A Visual Diagram of the History of the New Testament Canon


Sources for New Testament Canon Chart (all Protestant):
1) J. D. Douglas, editor, New Bible Dictionary, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Eerdmans, 1962 edition, 194-198.
2) F. L. Cross and E. A. Livingstone, editors, The Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church, Oxford: Oxford Univ. Press, 2nd edition, 1983, 232, 300, 309-10, 626, 641, 724, 1049, 1069.
3) Norman L. Geisler & William E. Nix, From God to Us: How We Got Our Bible, Chicago: Moody Press, 1974, 109-12, 117-125.


Amigo, the BIBLE did not produce the CHURCH, it's the other way around.
Yeah , not all follow Christ . Just a quick skim over the gospel of thomas would have had a lamb PUT IT DOWN .
That gospel was no bueno . Many consider many things to be inspired of GOD and yet upon examination
how it contradicts the scriptures . That be THE RED FLAG right there .
For example
JESUS had taught His own to call no man father or reverand or master etc , YET we got some folks
giving themselves titles of MOST HOLY reverand or father . SEE the POINT . IT contradicts JESUS .
And they call themselves MOST HOLY before it , making it much worse . Men need to learn to eat some humble pie .
WE aint The big great kahuna . I do believe JESUS also warned about who to watch out for
those who love to dress up , who love flatteries , flattering titles , worship of men . A POPE sitting crowned on a throne
with a ring people kiss , WOW that sounds like bad news to me right there . YET people do as people do
and make excuse for why they do and sit under those who do such things .
And we got many who holler touch not Gods annointed , correct me not , teaching things
like a prophet needs to be at most only seventy percent right , Yeah that came from nar prosperity preachers
Who holler all about that money . SEE why i dont follow such men . Cause they lead the flocks to deception .
BIBLE time is about all i can keep saying .
 
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I appreciate your history lesson. @amigo de christo and @David in NJ will reject it I am sure, but the truth and our own Christian history MUST be spoken without fear.

Mary
Then let us heed this next reminder .
Do you realize that any person can get up and say the bible is inspired of GOD
and yet , yet watch OUT for you will see though they say this truth , they teach CONTRARY TO IT .
The jews once held TORAH . THEY had scribes too that would recopy it word for word .
BUT that dont mean that those who LED the people SPOKE TRUTH at all .
Watch out . For With many of them GOD was not well pleased .
ANYONE can get up and claim to be the one true church and say WE GOT the bible
BUT IT DONT make them TRUTH TELLERS at all . Many have come under guise they do feed the flock
and yet have done nothing but heaped up worship of men unto themselves , love of money , love of power and control .
My advice is this , WATCH OUT for many sit in places who have twisted doctrine
unto their own destruction and have fouled the waters with their feet and men drink of their cisterns
and have no idea the water they drink offers no more hope than a man who dug for water
under an outhouse . Though he dug and dug i tell us all , the water he finds AINT drinkable .
 
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