Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

[Phoneman777]

Ummmm, those people also accused Jesus of eating food.
Were they "LYING"?

NOWHERE does Jesus deny eating or drinking.
In fact, He ADMITS it:
Matt. 11:19
The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, ‘Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners.’ But wisdom is proved right by her deeds.”

Was Jesus a friend of tax collectors and sinners - or were they "LYING" again??

DB, any good attorney would destroy your argument in court by simply pointing out what you're feeble mind can't grasp. By His words, Jesus admitted nothing - He simply quoted His lying enemies. Your argument, as is the entire "Roman theological dunghill of decretals" as Luther put it, is based on supposition and lies.

Maybe Luther would sometimes become so downtrodden from the incessant, unceasing, unrelenting attacks from Satan's headquarters in Rome that he would grab a bottle of booze, but not Jesus. However, Jesus gave Him good Katarina who was always there to help him get back on track. One time he fell into such deep depression that Katarina started dressing in all black day after day until finally Luther said, "What's the meaning of all this?!" and she replied, "I'm in mourning".

"Why? Who's dead?"
"God is dead."
"What! God isn't dead!"
"Then why do you act like He is?"

Luther got the point. He picked himself up and with renewed vigor went back to fighting his demonic papal enemies.

 

[Phoneman777]

Keep in mind, it was impossible for booze to be served as the Last Supper.

The Mosaic Law required that all things associated with fermentation - baked goods, yeast, AND GRAPE JUICE THAT HAD TURNED INTO BOOZE had to be removed from their midst in preparation for the Passover, on which the Last Supper fell - because the sun had set by the time they were eating and drinking which means Thursday was over and Friday had come. Any Protestant worth his salt knows Jesus was taken into custody after the Last Supper, spent the night, the morning, and afternoon in jail, before covetous Jew farce trials, and then was crucified before the sun set and Friday would turn into Sabbath.

 

[BreadOfLife]

DB, if you'd stop allowing the demonic word of the pope to interpret God's Word, you'd understand that "wine" in the Bible refers to both fermented and unfermented grape juice.

The same Jesus who inspired Solomon to counsel us to not even look at booze would not come to Earth 1,500 years later and contradict His own word - he made fresh grape juice.

WRONG.

In Proverbs, we read:
Proverbs 31:6-7
Let beer be for those who are perishing,
wine for those who are in anguish!
Let them drink and forget their poverty
and remember their misery no more.

Proverbs 23.29-35 warns against drunkenness.
It’s about those who lust after wine and drink too much. It’s about self-control.

Gluttony is just as sinful as drunkenness.
Should people NOT eat??

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Luther got the point. He picked himself up and with renewed vigor went back to fighting his demonic papal enemies.

That's all fine, swell, and dandy.... BUT reformed theology is still false doctrine because they failed to simply go back to the Word of God for doctrine!

Martin Luther also harbored hatred for Jews in his heart and not only wrote a lot of hateful stuff about the Jews, but he also advocated they be forcibly removed from Germany... that's right, this is where Adolf Hitler learned to hate the Jews is by reading Martin Luther's writings!

In the end the reformers were deceived by satan to reject the whole counsel of God and they taught things not taught in God's Word and not taught by the early church.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

The Mosaic Law required that all things associated with fermentation - baked goods, yeast, AND GRAPE JUICE THAT HAD TURNED INTO BOOZE had to be removed from their midst in preparation for the Passover, on which the Last Supper fell

Good point, and this would have to be true since Jesus personally kept the entire law with perfection.

 

[Robert Pate]

That's all fine, swell, and dandy.... BUT reformed theology is still false doctrine because they failed to simply go back to the Word of God for doctrine!

Martin Luther also harbored hatred for Jews in his heart and not only wrote a lot of hateful stuff about the Jews, but he also advocated they be forcibly removed from Germany... that's right, this is where Adolf Hitler learned to hate the Jews is by reading Martin Luther's writings!

In the end the reformers were deceived by satan to reject the whole counsel of God and they taught things not taught in God's Word and not taught by the early church.

Martin Luther discovered the Gospel and justification by faith while he was a Catholic monk. It changed his life and the lives of thousands of people. Catholics reject the Gospel and justification by faith apart from the works of the law. When the Gospel is mixed with law and religion it is a perverted Gospel, Galatian 1:6-10.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Martin Luther discovered the Gospel and justification by faith

And your claim is ALL Christians before Martin Luther believed wrong and went to hell???

That's foolishness... Luther is a purveyor of false doctrine... he failed to simply read God's Word and accept the whole counsel of God.

In fact, he famously was a cherry picker that wanted portions of God's Word thrown out... he's a heretic!

 

[Triumph1300]

In fact, he famously was a cherry picker that wanted portions of God's Word thrown out.

Similar like how you have thrown out repentance?

 

[Robert Pate]

And your claim is ALL Christians before Martin Luther believed wrong and went to hell???

That's foolishness... Luther is a purveyor of false doctrine... he failed to simply read God's Word and accept the whole counsel of God.

In fact, he famously was a cherry picker that wanted portions of God's Word thrown out... he's a heretic!

What made Martin Luther famous is that he was a Catholic monk that stood up against the oppressive Catholic church. There were many that believed the Gospel and justification by faith before Martin Luther, but they didn't want to take on the Catholic religion because it could cost them their lives. Catholicism is a law based religion. Martin Luther taught that we are justified by faith apart from the works of the law, Romans 3:20. Luther was right.

 

[Mink57]

What made Martin Luther famous is that he was a Catholic monk that stood up against the oppressive Catholic church. There were many that believed the Gospel and justification by faith before Martin Luther, but they didn't want to take on the Catholic religion because it could cost them their lives. Catholicism is a law based religion. Martin Luther taught that we are justified by faith apart from the works of the law, Romans 3:20. Luther was right.

Ohhh, so you APPROVE of some drunk who wanted to ADD to the bible in saying that we're justified by faith ALONE. He wanted to ADD the word ""alone".

You can believe in ONE man, Jesus, OR one man, Martin Luther.

Who you gonna believe?

 

[Robert Pate]

Ohhh, so you APPROVE of some drunk who wanted to ADD to the bible in saying that we're justified by faith ALONE. He wanted to ADD the word ""alone".

You can believe in ONE man, Jesus, OR one man, Martin Luther.

Who you gonna believe?

I am for sure not going to believe the pope. You know, the guy that embraced that demonic religion called Islam. What are you going to do when you find out that salvation was by faith alone, because it is by Christ alone?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Martin Luther taught that we are justified by faith apart from the works of the law, Romans 3:20. Luther was right.

Is this why Luther rejected the Book of James as well as other portions of scripture?

Any, why is it that those believing OSAS live in sin believing that just because they had a moment of faith they are saved even if they continue in sinful lifestyles... none of which is taught by God's Word... unless of course one is a cherry picker, like Martin Luther!

Maybe this explains why a known drunk believed this way so he could keep drinking the booze and hating the Jews (murder in his heart!) and still feel good bout himself.

Jesus expects His people to DO some stuff after getting born again. In John 15 Jesus says those that don't abide IN Him baring good fruit are cut off and cast in to the fire. This is one of the portions of scripture Martin Luther wanted to give the Benjamin Franklin treatment to (he cut out portions of the Bible he didn't like)

Reckon Jesus didn't get the memo from the so called reformers that salvation is by faith only??? (see James 2:14-26)

The Lord says the following thru the Apostle James:

James 2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

James 2:20
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

James 1:21,22
Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness (walking after the flesh – see Gal 6:7,8), and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Apparently one is justified by faith AND by works.... and the man that believes justification is by faith only is a "vain" man.

Sounds like either Jesus is wrong or the so called reformers are wrong since they teach an partial truth and leave the part out about works leaving the door open to sinful living (license to sin).

Martin Luther was a known drunk so I can see how he would want to leave the part about works out so he could continue drinking his beloved booze which is living in sin! (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-13)

Quite the quandary here... who shall we say is in error the Lord or the reformers??? That tis the question!

 

[Robert Pate]

Is this why Luther rejected the Book of James as well as other portions of scripture?

Any, why is it that those believing OSAS live in sin believing that just because they had a moment of faith they are saved even if they continue in sinful lifestyles... none of which is taught by God's Word... unless of course one is a cherry picker, like Martin Luther!

Maybe this explains why a known drunk believed this way so he could keep drinking the booze and hating the Jews (murder in his heart!) and still feel good bout himself.

Jesus expects His people to DO some stuff after getting born again. In John 15 Jesus says those that don't abide IN Him baring good fruit are cut off and cast in to the fire. This is one of the portions of scripture Martin Luther wanted to give the Benjamin Franklin treatment to (he cut out portions of the Bible he didn't like)

Reckon Jesus didn't get the memo from the so called reformers that salvation is by faith only??? (see James 2:14-26)

The Lord says the following thru the Apostle James:

James 2:24
Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

James 2:20
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

James 1:21,22
Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness (walking after the flesh – see Gal 6:7,8), and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Apparently one is justified by faith AND by works.... and the man that believes justification is by faith only is a "vain" man.

Sounds like either Jesus is wrong or the so called reformers are wrong since they teach an partial truth and leave the part out about works leaving the door open to sinful living (license to sin).

Martin Luther was a known drunk so I can see how he would want to leave the part about works out so he could continue drinking his beloved booze which is living in sin! (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-13)

Quite the quandary here... who shall we say is in error the Lord or the reformers??? That tis the question!

If we are justified by faith plus works then we are still in our sins and without hope. You can't believe in faith alone because you don't have faith in Christ. You want to believe that God accepts the works and the obedience of sinners. This would make God a sinner.

 

[Mink57]

I am for sure not going to believe the pope. You know, the guy that embraced that demonic religion called Islam. What are you going to do when you find out that salvation was by faith alone, because it is by Christ alone?

What does what I asked has ANYTHING to do with the Pope?

And what will YOU do if you find out that salvation was by faith AND works...and you have no works to show your faith?

 

[Mink57]

What does what I asked has ANYTHING to do with the Pope?

And what will YOU do if you find out that salvation was by faith AND works...and you have no works to show your faith?

Apparently, Christ's teaching about the Good Samaritan means nothing to you, because hey...that's about 'works'.

Obviously, WORKS are important.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

If we are justified by faith plus works then we are still in our sins and without hope. You can't believe in faith alone because you don't have faith in Christ. You want to believe that God accepts the works and the obedience of sinners. This would make God a sinner.

More twisted login from demons... what you just said came from devils thru the false teachers you have been brainwashed by! You deny that the Book of James is of God and have called a portion of God's Word... a lie!

God created man with free will... when man sees his need for salvation and accepts what Jesus did to wash away our sins thru His death, burial and resurrection... that is a good work! If YOU have been born again... YOU did a good work when you chose to believe confess Jesus as your Lord and Savior and... well, hopefully you repented of all your sin.... one cannot be in right standing with God without that!

The wrath of God comes upon the children of disobedience (Colossians 3:6)
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God's Word says we can do ALL things thru Christ Who strengthens us (Philippians 4:13),
apparently you do not believe this to be true for you. That's sad man! It's too bad for you.
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The OSAS peoples can't explain this one away...

Romans 2:7-9
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
It's lookin bad for the OSAS peoples... they just don't accept the whole counsel of God!

Here's some scriptures you won't be able to explain away!

Called to Good Works

Ephesians 2:10
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Galatians 6:9-10
And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

Hebrews 13:16
But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

Luke 6:35
But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

Matthew 7:18-20
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Romans 2:5-11
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.

1 Timothy 6:17-19
Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy;
That they do good, that they be rich in good works, ready to distribute, willing to communicate;
Laying up in store for themselves a good foundation against the time to come, that they may lay hold on eternal life.

Psalm 34:14
Depart from evil and do good; Seek peace and pursue it.

2 Timothy 2:20,21
But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

James 2:14-20
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

James 3:13
Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

1 Peter 3:10-12
For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it.
For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

2 Corinthians 9:8
And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:

Colossians 1:9,10
For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

2 Timothy 3:16,17
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. Colossians 3:5
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

Romans 8:13,14
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

2 Thessalonians 1:8
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

1 Corinthians 6:19, 20
Your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own....for you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

1 Peter 1:13-16
Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ… As obedient children, not fashioning (agreeing with) yourself according to the former lusts in your ignorance… But as He which has called you is holy, so be yourself holy in all manner of lifestyle… Because it is written, Be holy; for I am holy.

 

[Phoneman777]

WRONG.

In Proverbs, we read:
Proverbs 31:6-7
Let beer be for those who are perishing,
wine for those who are in anguish!
Let them drink and forget their poverty
and remember their misery no more.

Proverbs 23.29-35 warns against drunkenness.
It’s about those who lust after wine and drink too much. It’s about self-control.

Gluttony is just as sinful as drunkenness.
Should people NOT eat??

See, DB, EXACTLY what I'm talking about - you're so blinded by Dagon fish hat fool that YOU CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT.

Proverbs 31:6-7 ain't talking about Christians!
"Perishing" ain't talking about a Christian on his deathbed.
"Misery" ain't talking about temporary disappointments in the Christian life.
"Poverty" ain't talking about whether Christians "abound or suffer need".
"Anguish" ain't talking about Christians who have "the Comforter".

It's talking about the LOST - understand? They are "perishing" without Christ, miserable b/c "the way of the transgressor is hard", in abject spiritual poverty, who jump out of tall buildings when the anguish of economic ruin overcomes them.

Solomon is saying, "Look, Christians are to not even look at booze - let it be for the lost who stubbornly refuse to repent, so they can at least temporarily forget their misery and anguish."

That's why catholics drink so much.

 

[BreadOfLife]

See, DB, EXACTLY what I'm talking about - you're so blinded by Dagon fish hat fool that YOU CAN'T THINK STRAIGHT.

Proverbs 31:6-7 ain't talking about Christians!
"Perishing" ain't talking about a Christian on his deathbed.
"Misery" ain't talking about temporary disappointments in the Christian life.
"Poverty" ain't talking about whether Christians "abound or suffer need".
"Anguish" ain't talking about Christians who have "the Comforter".

It's talking about the LOST - understand? They are "perishing" without Christ, miserable b/c "the way of the transgressor is hard", in abject spiritual poverty, who jump out of tall buildings when the anguish of economic ruin overcomes them.

Solomon is saying, "Look, Christians are to not even look at booze - let it be for the lost who stubbornly refuse to repent, so they can at least temporarily forget their misery and anguish."

That's why catholics drink so much.

Another asinine response.

Christians DON’T perish??
Christians DON’T experience misery??
Christians DON’T experience poverty??
Christians DON’T experience anguish??

Jesus Himself experienced these things - so NONE of us is “above” these realities of life.

As for Proverbs – Solomon is referring to those who are weak. He could just as easily said that about FOOD with regard to gluttons – but food is a necessity. The sin is no less great.

If you have a weakness for alcohol – then stay away from it.
I would say the SAME thing about desserts for an obese person – yet there is nothing inherently “wrong” with dessert.

Learn how to rightly-divide the Word of God . . .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Learn how to rightly-divide the Word of God . . .

That's not possible for catholics... to believe many things not even taught in God's Word!

 

[Phoneman777]

Another asinine response.

Christians DON’T perish??
Christians DON’T experience misery??
Christians DON’T experience poverty??
Christians DON’T experience anguish??

Jesus Himself experienced these things - so NONE of us is “above” these realities of life.

As for Proverbs – Solomon is referring to those who are weak. He could just as easily said that about FOOD with regard to gluttons – but food is a necessity. The sin is no less great.

If you have a weakness for alcohol – then stay away from it.
I would say the SAME thing about desserts for an obese person – yet there is nothing inherently “wrong” with dessert.

Learn how to rightly-divide the Word of God . . .

You keep spouting blasphemous nonsense, DB.

Does not Solomon tell believers not to even look at booze? Therefore, there's no way Proverbs 31:6-7 KJV refers to believers! It can only refer to the lost!

It's your interpretation which exemplifies failure to "rightly divide the Word of Truth" - because my interpretation maintains Scriptural harmony and advances spiritual enlightenment while your interpretation results in only compounded delusion.