Can you Believe God can Calm, stop, destroy the Storm?? Will you pray that He does?? What if 335 million Americans did pray????m All our choice!!
Can you Believe God can Calm, stop, destroy the Storm??
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Randy Kluth
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I know it sounds heartless, but when I 1st heard that storm was coming towards LA/TX, the weather forecaster said it was a cat 1 or possibly 2, but I heard the concern. Then, I heard there was a chance it could grow stronger. Then I saw pics of water spouts. Finally, I see a cat 4--nearly cat 5.
My thought has been--this is God's judgment. He is not destroying the world. But He is indeed destroying some lives as a warning to others. Our country is out of control. The world is out of control. The world has always been bad, and therefore lives in a world in which these things happen on a regular basis. But in recent times, I see reason for judgment more than ever before. How can people pray to God for help when they've been spitting in His face?
I pray, as always, for God to bring His judgment, tempered by mercy. Evil has to be punished. Sinners need to be chastised. The wicked need to be corrected. To do less would not be God-like. God is not a fool to let sinners go unchecked for too long. Judgment does take place pretty regularly in this world. For one thing, we all die. For another, we all suffer from the impact of sin upon this world. We should just try to be as righteous as we can, and accept what God chooses to subject us to.
ChristisGod
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Psalm 135:7
He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth;
Who makes lightnings for the rain,
Who brings forth the wind from His treasuries.
Psalm 147:8
Who covers the heavens with clouds,
Who provides rain for the earth,
Who makes grass to grow on the mountains.
Psalm 148:8
Fire and hail, snow and clouds;
Stormy wind, fulfilling His word;
Jeremiah 10:13
When He utters His voice, there is a tumult of waters in the heavens,
And He causes the clouds to ascend from the end of the earth;
He makes lightning for the rain,
And brings out the wind from His storehouses.
Proverbs 3:19-20
The Lord by wisdom founded the earth,
By understanding He established the heavens.
By His knowledge the deeps were broken up
And the skies drip with dew.
hope this helps !!!
He causes the vapors to ascend from the ends of the earth;
Who makes lightnings for the rain,
Who brings forth the wind from His treasuries.
Psalm 147:8
Who covers the heavens with clouds,
Who provides rain for the earth,
Who makes grass to grow on the mountains.
Psalm 148:8
Fire and hail, snow and clouds;
Stormy wind, fulfilling His word;
Jeremiah 10:13
When He utters His voice, there is a tumult of waters in the heavens,
And He causes the clouds to ascend from the end of the earth;
He makes lightning for the rain,
And brings out the wind from His storehouses.
Proverbs 3:19-20
The Lord by wisdom founded the earth,
By understanding He established the heavens.
By His knowledge the deeps were broken up
And the skies drip with dew.
hope this helps !!!
Randy Kluth
Well-Known Member
If you don't judge sin, you're not a mature or adept Christian. Paul said we are to judge those within the church. And he taught that one of the gifts of the Spirit is discernment. If you cannot judge sin from righteousness, and if you can't figure out if someone needs to go to jail or not, you lack tools.
My sense is that you're probably a mature Christian who has been taught all his life to be careful with judging others. We often judge by appearances or out of passion. We make mistakes.
I wouldn't fault you for being careful. However, it is the role of judges to determine if a criminal lives or dies, or how long his sentence should be. As Christians we should be more in tune with what is just. What do you think, brother?
Over time I've realized that we do need to be careful with judging. Some look lazy when they have some kind of disability. Some look lazy when they're sick. We tend to judge too quickly.
And when someone who is a pagan commits a terrible act, we often consign them to Hell in our mind, without considering their level of knowledge. They may have experienced trauma, and they may have lived in total ignorance about justice and love.
But all men have a conscience, and as Christians we are called to proclaim truth. If we are unsure of that truth, why should anybody listen to us? We have a responsibility to proclaim all men sinners--that is not judging them. Our purpose is to show them a way out, a way in which they can be released from condemnation.
If we call them to grace without repentance, will they really experience grace? I don't think so. We have to *judge* if they have really repented. I have to *judge* if they have really changed. We should certainly know if they know Christ. What do you think?
This latest storm, Laura, has indeed brought divine judgment upon Louisiana and Texas--it seems to have hit Louisiana worse? Note the mercy that has come with this judgment. God destroyed a lot of infrastructure, and made life miserable for many people. But many of those people are not innocent--we know that.
But God seems to have spared many lives. He is interested in their repentance--not their destruction. Destruction comes when the heart of men become recalcitrant and they curse God rather than repent. As we approach those days, it will be fulfilled what it says in Revelation: rather than repent, they will curse God for their plagues! And then final destruction will come upon them.
What do you think? Is God judgmental? Or, are you simply unable to discern what God is doing in history? We need to pray and make sure that we mix mercy with an attitude of judgment. I get that.
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Jesus says=== Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Matthew 7:1- 6 "Judge not, that you be not judged.
2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.
3 And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?
4 Or how can you say to your brother, 'Let me remove the speck from your eye'; and look, a plank is in your own eye?
5 Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
6 Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.
