Of course a Christian is born again. A Christian is one who has been saved, one given the gift of eternal life with God in heaven. One cannot be saved and not be born again. Neither can one be born again and not be saved. To be born again is to be saved is to be a Christian.
CALVINISM: The height of Spiritual depravity
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Ritajanice
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A Christian is not Born Again, my Son is a Christian..he is not Born Again...now prove that a Christian is Born Again, using scripture please?
You are a sower of confusion, your words make absolutely no sense above.
Gods word says, you must be Born Again....he does not say you must be a Christian to see the Kingdom of God?
John 3:7
“Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.”
You are both wrong. Faith is not a gift but it is a requirement to be born again. To be born again is to be saved. One cannot be, is not, born again and yet not saved. To be saved one must believe, have faith, in God.
Rom 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed [had faith in] God, and it was counted to him as righteousness [justification, saved]"
Rom 4:23 But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone,
Rom 4:24 but for ours also. It [righteousness, justification, salvation] will be counted to us who believe [have faith] in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord,
Ritajanice
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God given faith is a requirement to be Born Again.....human faith is dead. one needs to be regenerated to have Faith in God....
Prove that Faith is not a gift from God a manifestation of the Spirit?
Which means what exactly?
I have posted that scripture many times, showing you that faith is a gift from God...
Where does God given faith manifest itself?
You are in error, I’m afraid.
The Bible doesn't say that you must be saved either. But any who understands what it means certainly should want to be saved.
What in the world to you think it means to be a Christian but a faithful follower of Christ? The typical modern-day use and meaning of the the word Christian has no real connection with the biblical meaning of the word. A Christian, biblically, is one who has been saved.
Why would you ever think your son is a Christian if he has not been born again?
We get our faith from God
Acts 3:16
And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
Acts 15:8-10
8 So God, who knows the heart, [a]acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,
9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
2 Corinthians 4:13-14
13 And since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, “I believed and therefore I spoke,” we also believe and therefore speak, 14 knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus, and will present us with you.
Acts 3:16
And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
Acts 15:8-10
8 So God, who knows the heart, [a]acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,
9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
2 Corinthians 4:13-14
13 And since we have the same spirit of faith, according to what is written, “I believed and therefore I spoke,” we also believe and therefore speak, 14 knowing that He who raised up the Lord Jesus will also raise us up with Jesus, and will present us with you.
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Ritajanice
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Once again,,your opinion, which makes no sense..
A faithful follower of Christ must be....Born Again?....I’m still waiting for you to post that we must be a Christian to see the Kingdom of God?
Please post scripture to prove your point ?..not your opinions.and please put your understanding of scripture into its right context.
We are Born Again and saved from eternal damnation....you can’t be saved without being Born Again?
Only God's elect have faith
Titus 1
1 Paul, a bondservant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God’s elect and the acknowledgment of the truth which accords with godliness, 2 in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began, 3 but has in due time manifested His word through preaching, which was committed to me according to the commandment of God our Savior;
Titus 1
1 Paul, a bondservant of God and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God’s elect and the acknowledgment of the truth which accords with godliness, 2 in hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began, 3 but has in due time manifested His word through preaching, which was committed to me according to the commandment of God our Savior;
You don't even know what the word means. It is not some religionized jargon kind of word. There is no distinction in the Bible between faith in God and believing in God. Belief, faith, in God is both the mental assent to the truth of God plus placing complete trust in God. One can believe God, that is mentally assent, i.e., acknowledge, concur, in the existence of God and yet not place his trust in God.
The Hebrew 11:1 definition of faith is true. " faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." Conviction of things not seen is mental assent. Assurance of things hoped for is trust.
That is true. The question is which comes first. I say the one who believes and baptized is saved. Those are the ones which God foreknows and elects. Since God is omniscient, He knows even before one is born, before even the creation of the world, who will believe. He doesn't predestine the belief, he predestines the one who has believed.
Ritajanice
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Only those He has chosen are built up a spiritual house.
The others they stumble on the Rock of Christ, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
1 Peter 2
Therefore, laying aside all malice, all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking, 2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow [a]thereby, 3 if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
“Behold, I lay in Zion
A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”
7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who [b]are disobedient,
“The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone,”
8 and
“A stone of stumbling
And a rock of offense.”
They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.
The others they stumble on the Rock of Christ, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
1 Peter 2
Therefore, laying aside all malice, all deceit, hypocrisy, envy, and all evil speaking, 2 as newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the word, that you may grow [a]thereby, 3 if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
The Chosen Stone and His Chosen People
4 Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 Therefore it is also contained in the Scripture,“Behold, I lay in Zion
A chief cornerstone, elect, precious,
And he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame.”
7 Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who [b]are disobedient,
“The stone which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone,”
8 and
“A stone of stumbling
And a rock of offense.”
They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.
Ritajanice
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Ritajanice
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Given that you obviously haven't a clue about even what a Christian is, this discussion is worthless.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Once again your opinion.
We must be Born Again....Gods word does not say you must be a Christian to see the Kingdom of God.
Praise God for that spiritual understanding, the member above is lacking in Spiritual understanding from what I can read of their posts...I pray that God remove the blinkers from his eyes, in Jesus Name,Amen.
Job 32:8
Verse Concepts
“But it is a spirit in man,
And the breath of the Almighty gives them understanding.
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I have no problem with any of that. The problem is your view of who and how God chooses. To think that God would choose most of humanity, having absolutely nothing to do with who they are or what they do and giving them no recourse, to be eternally condemned is really bad . That stinks to high heaven, pun intended.
Ritajanice
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Job 32:8
Verse Concepts
“But it is a spirit in man,
And the breath of the Almighty gives them understanding.
Meaning?
Only God can give you that understanding...in the meantime I pray that he does ....
Ritajanice
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