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[TLHKAJ]

@3 Resurrections
Sister, that's where I fully disagree. Satan and demons exist still to this day. I experienced close contact in the rituals I was subjected to. I was used as a gateway/conduit on the altars from age 3. I have seen the entities myself, and they used me as the gateway/portal, etc. I witnessed them bringing in more fallen angels in 1976 when I was age 4.

 

[3 Resurrections]

@3 Resurrections
Sister, that's where I fully disagree. Satan and demons exist still to this day. I experienced close contact in the rituals I was subjected to. I was used as a gateway/conduit on the altars from age 3. I have seen the entities myself, and they used me as the gateway/portal, etc. I witnessed them bringing in more fallen angels in 1976 when I was age 4.

I fully understand your objections to what I just wrote. And I am mindful that the terms of this women's only forum are not to engender any kind of rancorous debate. This view of the scriptures describing the past elimination of the entire Satanic realm is what I get pushback on all the time when I post the related scriptures. And the entirety of scripture shows me when and where all the members of the Satanic realm were destroyed long ago. I am quite willing to appear the fool on this point.

I would ask you if you can utterly trust the impressions you remember from early childhood, if there are scriptures that contradict what your perceptions of those experiences were? Which is to be relied on more than the other? Were the wicked individuals who had you at their mercy in the practice of using mind-altering drugs in their rituals? Would you even remember it if they had given you something back then? The mind is a marvel of God's creativity which scientists will never be able to completely comprehend - even when it is disordered or affected by substances which alter its performance. Even AI will never be able to duplicate God's handiwork by creating a living soul.

I would not put it past those evil individuals to have injected you with a substance which created images and impressions in your mind that you were actually encountering something demonic. The power of suggestion is not to be underestimated. Mother church has been using the threat of the Satanic in order to keep its members under deluded, fearful subjection for a very long time - and continually contributing to keep their coffers full of funds.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I would ask you if you can utterly trust the impressions you remember from early childhood, if there are scriptures that contradict what your perceptions of those experiences were?

I trust them 100% because God is the one who led me into my past and brought those memories to me one by one so that I could be healed. He taught me to pray for truth, according to His Word. And I trust Him. He is not duplicitous. When His children ask for truth, He will not hive them lies. (If I ask for a fish, He will not give me a serpent. If I ask for bread, He will not give me a stone.)

They weren't impressions, but actual experiences. I have seen into the spirit realm as an adult as well, and God has given me very accurate dreams revealing the nature of the controlling entities over lands, and also that works through Trump. He also revealed to me what would happen as a result of that controlling entity, which has come to pass.

I don't see the scriptures as contradicting any of my experiences.

Sister, we don't have to debate it. I think that God the Holy Spirit is our teacher. Each of us are where we need to be as long as we are surrendered to Him and hearing His voice.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I would not put it past those evil individuals to have injected you with a substance which created images and impressions in your mind that you were actually encountering something demonic.

There is no mistaking when you experience spiritual rape by demonic and fallen entities. You feel it in the body and to the core of your being.

They don't give drugs when they use someone on the altar like that. The person is specifically chosen by bloodlines, from infancy because of their spiritual capacity, because of their goal of bringing in more fallen entities (fallen angels).

 

[3 Resurrections]

The person is specifically chosen by bloodlines, from infancy because of their spiritual capacity, because of their goal of bringing in more fallen entities (fallen angels).

I used to be fearful after reading books concerning the fallen angels of the spirit world as a young teen. Then in my more recent eschatology studies, I encountered the scriptures that said God had not put the world under subjection to the angels in the world that was coming in the first century (Hebrews 2:5). Also, that God was going to "shortly" crush Satan under the feet of the Roman saints in their own generation (Romans 16:20). There is nothing left but the "elect angels" today - none of which is capable of turning into a fallen angel. The "elect angels" are as secure in their righteous standing as the salvation of the elect children of God on earth.

God used the entire realm of unclean spirits, the devils, and Satan to judge the nation of Israel - especially Old Jerusalem/ Mystery Babylon. That city became a prison for "every unclean spirit" and "the habitation of devils" (Rev. 18:2), after which Jerusalem siege Zechariah 13:2 prophesied that God would cause the unclean spirits to "pass out of the land".

Isaiah 24:21-23 also predicted the punishment of the host of evil angelic hosts by imprisonment in Old Jerusalem. After many days, these evil angelic hosts would be "found wanting" - meaning gone from existence in biblical parlance. Jesus also predicted this seven-fold plague of wicked spirits coming upon those of His generation in their "last state" (Matt. 12:43-45). Old Jerusalem by this means experienced in the first century a time of "great tribulation" that would never be duplicated ever again in history.

I'm not exactly certain what you mean by "spiritual rape". Scripture doesn't describe this happening anywhere that I know of. The fallen angels for whom God had originally created celestial-fleshed bodies back in Genesis 6 had actual physical sexual relations in marriages with human women, producing hybrid progeny that became giants and "men of renown". When those hybrid giants died, their departed spirits became the "unclean spirits" that desired to enter the bodies of humans once again. They of course were a widespread plague on the nation of Israel during Christ's ministry. But these were what God got rid of by first imprisoning every one of them in AD 70 Old Jerusalem, and disposing of them in that location. Whatever you experienced in your early childhood could not be related to any of the fallen angelic hosts who are now "found wanting" by being absent from this world.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I'm not exactly certain what you mean by "spiritual rape". Scripture doesn't describe this happening anywhere that I know of.

Genesis 6:1-4
[1]And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[2]That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
[3]And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
[4]There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Those verses, specifically verse 4, explain why and how there were giants (nephilim) both before and after the flood... "when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them..."

Jesus said that the days of Noah, and of Lot would happen again and it is happening now.

 

[3 Resurrections]

Genesis 6:1-4
[1]And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
[2]That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
[3]And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
[4]There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

But this is not spiritual rape. It is actual physical sexual relations of angels who "left their first estate" (Jude 6) and married human women (not little 4-year-old girls) in order to deliberately propagate a hybrid species. Satan knew this would be a way to ruin the chances of the prophesied "Seed of the woman" coming through the human race who would crush the head of the serpent.

God did not design the celestial-fleshed (1 Cor. 15:40) bodies of the male angels to multiply by reproduction. They were a set, limited number of created order of beings - and they were not created as mere spirit alone. Some of this angelic order of celestial-fleshed beings broke that boundary of restriction on their species and decided to produce a hybrid offspring from those marriages to human women.

If God had allowed this practice to prevail over the earth, the prophesied Seed of the woman could not have been born of solely-human descent, and God's plan for having a salvific High Priest representative come from among the human species would have been lost. Hence, Noah's flood, and later on, God commanding Joshua's campaign to wipe out the nations of giants in the land of Canaan, and King David's mighty men and their war against the last seed of the giants in those days.

 

[TLHKAJ]

And yet, they do these things and more, just as they did in the days of Noah and Lot.

Sister, my experiences are confirmed by scripture as well as by the Lord who took me to each memory and still continues this process for my healing. I won't debate this.

I have to go get supper done and finish some things in the yard before dark. I'll be back later.

 

[Mama Etna]

Commentary.

Abuse comes in many forms. A child can be brought up well clothed and fed with all his needs supplied except for the all-important need for love and approval. No physical harm is ever done to him, yet, as each year goes by, his spirit shrivels up inside him more and more, as a plant will shrivel without sunlight, desperate for the smallest demonstration of affection. Eventually, he grows to adulthood; everything seems to be normal, yet he is crippled inside by the indifference of his parents.

Then again, a child’s spirit may be broken at an early age—even though he suffers no physical abuse—by being constantly told that he is useless and a waste of space. Everything he attempts is sneered at until he gives up trying to do anything at all. Because very young children naturally believe what their parents say about them, the child who suffers this treatment will gradually withdraw into himself, retiring behind an invisible wall and simply existing rather than living. These children grow up never suffering physically at the hands of their parents but nevertheless crippled in their spirits. As grown-ups, they find it difficult to make friends and are unable to relate normally to other adults.

So, child abuse can be subtle. There is, of course, the more obvious kind—when a child is neglected, kicked and beaten and, worse still, sexually abused. The damage such abuse causes can last a lifetime.

Very true. My husband and I tried to help a needy couple by giving them shelter. The wife turned out to be abusive emotionally. This effected my son. She did these things to him. He still is hard and does not relate properly to other people. It affected how he relates to God, a father figure. He doesn't even believe in Him which is a shame.

 

[Ritajanice]

Very true. My husband and I tried to help a needy couple by giving them shelter. The wife turned out to be abusive emotionally. This effected my son. She did these things to him. He still is hard and does not relate properly to other people. It affected how he relates to God, a father figure. He doesn't even believe in Him which is a shame.

I don’t think I relate to people properly either, because of the traumatic emotional abuse I too suffered growing up..so I can well relate to him.

In fact I had an incident today, where a guy ripped off my wing mirror down a narrow lane, he got out of his car then started to verbally abuse me and said it was all my fault....that was it, the old man in me came out , and I too hammered him with my mouth, he got right in my face and I said come on then hit me...he’d met his match, if it had killed me, I’d still have stood up to the foul mouthed bully gypsy boy.....,f,,....ing at me in front of cars that had lined up , as we continued fiercely arguing...anyway he got back in his car and drove off, I did the same..a whole wing mirror I need, that my mechanic said will cost around £100...

 

[Ritajanice]

and still continues this process for my healing

Healing prayers always going up for you,Sister in Christ.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Healing prayers always going up for you,Sister in Christ.

Bless you and thank you .... prayers much appreciated

 

[TLHKAJ]

I don’t think I relate to people properly either, because of the traumatic emotional abuse I too suffered growing up..so I can well relate to him.

In fact I had an incident today, where a guy ripped off my wing mirror down a narrow lane, he got out of his car then started to verbally abuse me and said it was all my fault....that was it, the old man in me came out , and I too hammered him with my mouth, he got right in my face and I said come on then hit me...he’d met his match, if it had killed me, I’d still have stood up to the foul mouthed bully gypsy boy.....,f,,....ing at me in front of cars that had lined up , as we continued fiercely arguing...anyway he got back in his car and drove off, I did the same..a whole wing mirror I need, that my mechanic said will cost around £100...

I guess it's different there...? In the US, he'd be having to rip out his proof of insurance, and with all the witnesses around, his insurance would be billed for your repairs. There also would be a police report.

I'm sorry that happened. I also had a bad experience .... actually two in one day (yesterday). I had to drive to the feed store for animal feed, bedding, etc. I was driving along, small town, 2 lanes and a center lane ...and I saw a truck pulling out into traffick from the opposite side of the highway. As I was approaching I watched him because I had a feeling he wasn't going to pull into the center lane to wait for an opening.... and I was right. He pulled across the far lane, across the center lane, right into my lane. If I hadn't gotten that discernment from the Lord, there would've been a collision. I had to slam my breaks to avoid impact. Thank God, no one was behind me.

Well, I didn't handle it well, especially since he didn't even care. I laid on my horn and sped up and went around him. (Mainly because I didn't trust this guy being in front of me.)

I got to my destination, and they know me there ....sweet people. One guy noticed I was shaken up a bit and I told him what happened. He said, "Thank God for good reflexes! Walk around and get your mind off it for a bit." And I did. I love that store! They like my little doggie too when I bring him in. :)

So ...I got in my car and texted a friend and told them what happened ..said, "Pray for safe travels home." It's only 10 minutes at best to get home. Lo and behold, 3 blocks from home, a SCHOOL BUS(!!?) pulled out in front of me and I had to swerve to keep from being T-boned. Sigh ....yesterday had an odd feel to it.

Sorry for the long post ...but yes, I can relate, sister.