Taken
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IF and when “I” choose to DENY anything…
I will be the one to say so.
You do not know me, nor I you.
Do not speak For me.
Born Again or Christian? Is there a difference and what is your biblical support ?
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IF and when “I” choose to DENY anything…
I will be the one to say so.
You do not know me, nor I you.
Do not speak For me.
It's SUPPOSED to mean followers of Christ as in imitating Jesus
One cannot even start doing that until they become born again.
Dear Taken,
I have shown you the scriptures that support my statements, however, you won't accept the truth that they teach. Since I am not able to help you at this time, I will end my discussion with you.
Joe
My fruits? What an arrogant, self-righteous old biddy you must be.
Taken
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You come quoting scriptures that require no response. You come makings false accusations. You come out of nowhere pretending someone who does not know you has asked you for some help.
Bizarre!
Matthew 7:16
By their fruit you will recognize them.
Matthew 7:20
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Matthew 7:20
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Luke 6:44
Each tree is recognized by its own fruit.
I may be an 'old biddy' but I am God's old biddy and my righteousness is from Him not myself.
Romans 3:22
This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.
No, here the context says that the natural man is the man that is not divinely inspired as is Paul and the other apostles and prophets. Any who had the mind of Christ would have no need at all of any of the Bible. That is no one here are any place else today.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Then we will agree to disagree.
A Born Again would never die in spirit, if they never read a Bible, because they have been Born Again of imperishable seed, which they were predestined to receive according to God’s purpose and plan before the foundation of the world God knows who he will be Born Of the Spirit.....it’s a Living spiritual rebirth.
The only thing that would happen to his Born Again children is....they wouldn’t be able to grow and mature in his word.
We have been Born Again of imperishable seed ....that liveth and abideth forever.
That means the Holy Spirit has manifested/ lives in our spirit, we know this as his Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are his children.
He will NEVER leave the spirit of a Born Again as they have been Born of the Spirit.
You have so much to learn but probably won't.
You constantly refer to 1 Peter 1;23. The imperishable seed that you hang your hat on is not a reference to anything about you. It is not a reference to the regenerated one, but rather the one doing the regeneration. But no doubt you will disagree with that as well.
And by the way that is universally true for all who have been saved, for all who have been born again. for all Christians.
ChristisGod
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The "seed" is the word of God which is clear from many passages. The parable of the 4 soils. This coincides with Paul in Romans 10 where we read we are saved by the preaching of the word of God, the gospel of our salvation. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ. This also parallels Peter below :
Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart. 23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24 For,
“All people are like grass,
and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
25 but the word of the Lord endures forever.”
And this is the word that was preached to you.
Now that you have purified yourselves by obeying the truth so that you have sincere love for each other, love one another deeply, from the heart. 23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24 For,
“All people are like grass,
and all their glory is like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
25 but the word of the Lord endures forever.”
And this is the word that was preached to you.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Can you support this by using scripture.?
Gods word has already witnessed to my spirit that I am Born Again of imperishable seed.
For all to be saved...they must be Born Again of imperishable seed...Born Again and saved from eternal damnation.
You only know you have been saved from eternal damnation.....after you have been Born Again of incorruptible/ imperishable seed.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Yes, unfortunately this member is having a hard time understanding that.....not everyone is at the same level of spiritual understanding......doesn’t mean anyone is better...it just means exactly what it says.
Some have more spiritual understanding in other areas...were all different aren’t we and grow/ mature at different rates.
Yes, of Course.
1Pe 1:23 since you have been born again, not of perishable seed but of imperishable, through the living and abiding word of God;
I think that is what I just said.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
You said that a Born Again doesn’t have communication with God via his Spirit?
So, why do we need to be Born Again of imperishable seed?
Are you born again? I ask because the things you were saying didn't indicate to me that you are. And i quoted the scripture about being able to tell the difference by the fruit produced. And if you are not born again then you don't have the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
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