Believing on Christ is a evidence of being born again !

[Ritajanice]

Yes it very much does.........but you cannot see/hear it in scripture, probably to start with because you don't seem to know the scrips well enough..

I know the scriptures as well as you..I’m waiting for you to interpret the scripture that I have posted @Lizbeth .

......as well as that you have heeded those who have pre-emptively talked you out of believing those scrips that address other aspects of what it means to be born of Him.

Nonsense, your testimony does not line up with how we are Born Again..becoming Born Of The Spirit must line up with scripture.....no matter what people post...

Yes, those scriptures are true but also so are these true that I will post here. God does not contradict Himself in His Spirit-breathed word, everything that is written in scripture is the truth. We must not deny any of it. I can quote these scriptures for you, but I can't receive/accept them for you, or understand (hear/see) them for you....you will need the Lord to give you understanding:

Same applies to you..you either understand the scripture that I post or you dismiss it.

I’m more than happy to discuss the scripture that I post to you..I have already discussed the scripture that you have posted to me and interpreted it..

All scripture was written under the influence of men..

Jhn 6:56

He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

Col 1:27

To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

Eph 3:17

That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love

The Spirit can’t dwell in our hearts not until it’s Born Again.

Rom 8:9

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

We are in the Spirit when our spirit is Born Again.

Rom 8:10

And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

We are clothed in the righteousness of Christ, once our spirit is Born Again.

2Co 13:5

Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

Examine yourself indeed as well.

Gal 4:19
My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

Col 3:16
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.

Of course we will sing to the Lord God ..once we know him in our spirit...our hearts are full of joy because we are Born Again ,spirit children of the most high.

Eph 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Yes.,once our spirit is Born Again, we grow in Gods wisdom, Spirit gives birth to spirit is divine revelation.

1Ti 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Now you interpret the scripture below that I posted.just like I have done with the scripture that you posted @Lizbeth ?

What does the Spirit testifies with our spirit mean @Lizbeth ...this is God’s word..let me see you acknowledge it and interpret it.rather than keep skipping over it...easy answer if your spirit is Born Again?..just as I have interpreted the scripture that you posted...you post a lot of verses @Lizbeth ..yet skip other verses..you miss the full context of scripture, you cherry pick verses that you understand @Lizbeth why is that?

Romans 8​

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:...which means what @Lizbeth ?
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[Lizbeth]

Who has denied the Son?

You must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God..we abide in the Son because we are in the Sons Spirit..Born Again.

They is not saying that they are both God.

Yes, the Father gives the Born Again to Jesus, we are his sisters/ brothers.

None of that scripture says that Jesus is God.

John 3​

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3 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Lizbeth said:

...who has the Son has the Father also, and who has not the Son has not the Father)...... CHRIST came to dwell in my heart by faith in HIM....HIS Spirit, HE, HIM, JESUS, in my heart. My living testimony. Thank you Lord.

Ritajanice said: That’s not biblical, sorry.

Now I've PROVED with those scriptures that what I was saying (with my entire post) was biblical. It's up to you what you do with all those scriptures I posted. One is free to refuse to acknowledge the truth and deflect and try to slither away from under them if they want. Only the Spirit of Christ can give someone the mind of Christ to help them receive and understand but He generally will not violate their free will.

And God help those who are willing to only look at isolated cherry pick verses which by themselves only seem to support a false doctrine. This is why we need the WHOLE COUNSEL of God, not just one part of the truth to the exclusion of others. Otherwise those folks miss the mark and believe lies to their peril.

 

[brightfame52]

A person is born again upon believing in Jesus Christ who was crucified to bring us salvation to eternal life. In Jesus, we are a new creation! View attachment 58315
2 Corinthians 5:17 (NKJV) Therefore, if anyone [is] in Christ, [he is] a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

A person is first born again in order to believe in Jesus

 

[Ritajanice]

Lizbeth said:

...who has the Son has the Father also, and who has not the Son has not the Father)...... CHRIST came to dwell in my heart by faith in HIM....HIS Spirit, HE, HIM, JESUS, in my heart. My living testimony. Thank you Lord.

None of that is biblical on how our spirit is Born Again...those are your words..not Gods?

Ritajanice said: That’s not biblical, sorry.

What’s not biblical..

Now I've PROVED with those scriptures that what I was saying (with my entire post) was biblical. It's up to you what you do with all those scriptures I posted. One is free to refuse to acknowledge the truth and deflect and try to slither away from under them if they want. Only the Spirit of Christ can give someone the mind of Christ to help them receive and understand but He generally will not violate their free will.

The scripture you posted does not say how our spirit is Born Again?

And God help those who are willing to only look at isolated cherry pick verses which by themselves only seem to support a false doctrine. This is why we need the WHOLE COUNSEL of God, not just one part of the truth to the exclusion of others. Otherwise those folks miss the mark and believe lies to their peril.

You are the cherry picker @Lizbeth you cherry picked verses and left out other verses?

 

[Ritajanice]

A person is first born again in order to believe in Jesus

Amen!!!!

 

[Ritajanice]

@Lizbeth ..I have posted a lot of scripture for us to discuss..full context of scripture I posted..I didn’t cherry pick verses like you did.

I’m waiting to discuss..what does The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God?

By whose Living testimony do we know that our spirit is Born Again.= how does Spirit gives birth to spirit...happen @Lizbeth ?

By divine heart revelation?...what does divine revelation mean?

I’ve interpreted all scripture that you posted..now as you agree that all scripture is true...discuss the scripture in it’s full context that I posted?

I didn’t cherry pick verses like you did.

 

[Ritajanice]

Lizbeth said:

...who has the Son has the Father also, and who has not the Son has not the Father)...... CHRIST came to dwell in my heart by faith in HIM....HIS Spirit, HE, HIM, JESUS, in my heart. My living testimony. Thank you Lord.

I said,.that is not is how the word says that we are Born Again..I don’t deny your personal testimony.

I’m just saying..that your testimony ...doesn’t say how our spirit is Born Again.

You invited God in..no doubt you have....now you show me in scripture that we invited God in when we are Born Of The Spirit...it doesn’t..

It says we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...Spirit gives birth to spirit.

You have told me I’m a tare you’ve also accused me of not being Born Again so please don’t play the VICTIM card @Lizbeth .


Look what happens to the tares ...which you accused me of..I have a great memory Sister.

Taken away by the angels to destruction, the Tares are gathered and cast into the fire​

I will defend my faith to the death.as I’m sure you will defend yours...now we either respect the beliefs of each other and move on..or we stay on the merry go round...

Where you and a few others have tried to force me to believe as you do..telling me I have it wrong, that I’m deceived, that I am a tare, that I have it backwards.that I’m satanic, that I’m a Calvinist...the choice is yours?

I post the word of God....

 

[Lizbeth]

@Lizbeth ..I have posted a lot of scripture for us to discuss..full context of scripture I posted..I didn’t cherry pick verses like you did.

I’m waiting to discuss..what does The Spirit testifies with our spirit that we are the children of God?

By whose Living testimony do we know that our spirit is Born Again.= how does Spirit gives birth to spirit...happen @Lizbeth ?

By divine heart revelation?...what does divine revelation mean?

I’ve interpreted all scripture that you posted..now as you agree that all scripture is true...discuss the scripture in it’s full context that I posted?

I didn’t cherry pick verses like you did.

Truth is for those who are WILLING to receive it. There is no point in continually throwing pearls to the unwilling. It's the devil who just loves to keep us going around in the same circles wasting hours and hours of time. In the end it comes down to loving the truth or not loving it. God knows the "why" of people who are only willing to receive/believe what they WANT to. The ENTRANCE of the word gives light/understanding.....but for some reason the word just bounces off some people like water off a duck's back.

Yes indeed the new birth is by the Spirit and His revelation.. I have told you that I experienced, know, understand, and agree with that a few times now in our conversations. I have not been bringing or saying anything that contradicts that.

 

[Ritajanice]

Truth is for those who are WILLING to receive it. There is no point in continually throwing pearls to the unwilling. It's the devil who just loves to keep us going around in the same circles wasting hours and hours of time

My truth is my heart..His Name is the Living Holy Spirit...he is Gods Living testimony/ witness...I’m Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed, that liveth and abideth forever...” in my heart/ spirit “.

. In the end it comes down to loving the truth or not loving it. God knows the "why" of people who are only willing to receive/believe what they WANT to. The ENTRANCE of the word gives light/understanding.....but for some reason the word just bounces off some people like water off a duck's back.

Yes indeed the new birth is by the Spirit and His revelation.. I have told you that I experienced, know, understand, and agree with that a few times now in our conversations. I have not been bringing or saying anything that contradicts that.

Lizbeth that’s your commentary...why aren’t you discussing the scripture ( full context) I posted?

Instead of the cherry picked verses that you posted?

How did the Spirit testify to my spirit that I am a child of God?

Spirit gives birth to spirit?

The Spirit is a Living Spirit, he is Gods witness on the earth today....that’s how I know that my spirit is Born Again.

Spirit gives birth to spirit is not a bible birth...it’s a mighty powerful supernatural birth ,done by the power of Gods Living Spirit...

 

[ProDeo]

I m flabbergasted at you telling me that you love me , because you believe I am deceived

That is NOT what I said, meant to say, let's review.

YOU - My question is @ProDeo why are you and a few others on this thread ,so desperate for me to believe as you believe?...

ME - Because we love you and don't want to see you fall into false teachings and/or how the devil might creep into your mind as he (for instance) did with king David, notable blessed with the Holy Spirit (Ps 51:11) and yet -

1Kron 21:1 Then Satan stood against Israel and incited David to number Israel.
1Kron 21:7 But God was displeased with this thing, and he struck Israel.

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About the blue - is to PREVENT, not an accusation.

I have prayed for you that the good Lord may take away the obstacle that prevents you to see who Jesus is.

 

[Ritajanice]

That is NOT what I said, meant to say, let's review.

YOU - My question is @ProDeo why are you and a few others on this thread ,so desperate for me to believe as you believe?...

ME - Because we love you and don't want to see you fall into false teachings and/or how the devil might creep into your mind as he (for instance) did with king David, notable blessed with the Holy Spirit (Ps 51:11) and yet -

1Kron 21:1 Then Satan stood against Israel and incited David to number Israel.
1Kron 21:7 But God was displeased with this thing, and he struck Israel.

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About the blue - is to PREVENT, not an accusation.

I have prayed for you that the good Lord may take away the obstacle that prevents you to see who Jesus is.

What on earth are you talking about..I know all about Jesus.

I pray that your ears are unplugged the scales removed from your eyes,so that you can hear the Spirit and see His Living creation...your heart has been deceived...I pray that God opens your heart, to seek him out more and more.head knowledge without heart knowledge is no knowledge at all.

Isaiah 43:6-7 King James Version (KJV) I will say to the north, Give up; and to the south, Keep not back: bring my sons from far, and my daughters from the ends of the earth; even every one that is called by my name: for I have created him for my glory, I have formed him; yea, I have made him

John 15​

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15 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
21 But all these things will they do unto you for my name's sake, because they know not him that sent me.
22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.
23 He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
24 If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father.
25 But this cometh to pass, that the word might be fulfilled that is written in their law, They hated me without a cause.
26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

 

[Ritajanice]

ME - Because we love you and don't want to see you fall into false teachings and/or how the devil might creep into your mind as he (for instance) did with king David, notable blessed with the Holy Spirit (Ps 51:11) and yet

I have the mind of Christ, as I’m a partaker Of the divine nature..Born Of The Spirit

Spirit gives birth to spirit.....the Spirit birthed my spirit into His...my spirit is Alive in Christ..I pray that you come to that heart knowledge.

◄ 1 Peter 1 ►

Berean Standard Bible Par ▾ A Greeting from Peter (2 Peter 1:1–2) 1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the elect who are exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosena 2according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. A Living Hope 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in various trials 7so that the proven character of your faith—more precious than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 8Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9now that you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls. 10Concerning this salvation, the prophets who foretold the grace to come to you searched and investigated carefully, 11trying to determine the time and setting to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow. 12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, when they foretold the things now announced by those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things. A Call to Holiness (Hebrews 12:14–17) 13Therefore prepare your minds for action.c Be sober-minded. Set your hope fully on the grace to be given you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14As obedient children, do not conform to the passions of your former ignorance. 15But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, 16for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”d 17Since you call on a Father who judges each one’s work impartially, conduct yourselves in reverent fear during your stay as foreigners. 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or spot. 20He was known before the foundation of the world, but was revealed in the last times for your sake. 21Through Him you believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and glorified Him; and so your faith and hope are in God. The Enduring Word (Isaiah 40:6–8) 22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For, “All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, 25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f And this is the word that was proclaimed to you.

 

[IronMaiden]

What on earth are you talking about..I know all about Jesus.

What do you know about Jesus?

 

[Ritajanice]

What do you know about Jesus?

What do you know about God’s Living testimony, His Spirit..Spirit gives birth to spirit?

 

[Lizbeth]

I said,.that is not is how the word says that we are Born Again..I don’t deny your personal testimony.

I’m just saying..that your testimony ...doesn’t say how our spirit is Born Again.

You invited God in..no doubt you have....now you show me in scripture that we invited God in when we are Born Of The Spirit...it doesn’t..

It says we must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...Spirit gives birth to spirit.

You have told me I’m a tare you’ve also accused me of not being Born Again so please don’t play the VICTIM card @Lizbeth .


Look what happens to the tares ...which you accused me of..I have a great memory Sister.

Taken away by the angels to destruction, the Tares are gathered and cast into the fire​

I will defend my faith to the death.as I’m sure you will defend yours...now we either respect the beliefs of each other and move on..or we stay on the merry go round...

Where you and a few others have tried to force me to believe as you do..telling me I have it wrong, that I’m deceived, that I am a tare, that I have it backwards.that I’m satanic, that I’m a Calvinist...the choice is yours?

I post the word of God....

Still going in circles here sister. You don't have it wrong that we are born of the Spirit. I have told you several times that I agree with that. Thought you said you had a good memory, lol.

But you don't understand WHOSE Spirit it is and WHAT/WHO that imperishable seed is. And I have not accused anyone of being a tare, but what I said is that in the end it might be belief or unbelief in the deity of Christ that decides between the wheat and tares. Even the unbelieving world and pagans believe there was a man who lived in the first century called Jesus, many even consider Him to have been a good man or holy man and prophet, but they don't know/understand and have spirit revelation of WHO He is/was. The gospel and doctrine of Christ is being badly and increasingly diminished and watered down in our time.

There is so much to learn after being born again.....so much more for the Spirit to reveal to the born again believer. We are told in scripture to "forget (so to speak) what lies behind and reach for what lies ahead". We are to leave the newborn milk and "go on to perfection". If we remain as infants on milk and don't mature onto the meat of the word we will remain easy prey for the enemy, blown about by winds of doctrines.

 

[IronMaiden]

What do you know about God’s Living testimony, His Spirit..Spirit gives birth to spirit?

In 1 John, the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, bears witness to the identity and mission of Jesus Christ who came to save sinners. A Christian receives the indwelling of the Holy Spirit upon repentance and conversion, that is to say upon accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. This is an individual choice that everyone must make in this age.

1 Timothy 1:14-15 (NKJV) 14 And the grace of our Lord was exceedingly abundant, with faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 15 This [is] a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.

Again I ask you, what do you know about Jesus Christ?

 

[Ritajanice]

Still going in circles here sister. You don't have it wrong that we are born of the Spirit. I have told you several times that I agree with that. Thought you said you had a good memory, lol.

But you don't understand WHOSE Spirit it is and WHAT/WHO that imperishable seed is.

It’s you who doesn’t understand who the Spirit is, and you have no idea that the imperishable seed that we are Born Again Of, is Gods Living testimony the Holy Spirit...

What seed penetrates the heart and takes up residence?

Spirit gives birth to spirit..explain? for once.

And I have not accused anyone of being a tare

Yes you did..on the trinity thread,

, but what I said is that in the end it might be belief or unbelief in the deity of Christ that decides between the wheat and tares.

Don’t try and cover up that you called me a tare..

Even the unbelieving world and pagans believe there was a man who lived in the first century called Jesus, many even consider Him to have been a good man or holy man and prophet, but they don't know/understand and have spirit revelation of WHO He is/was. The gospel and doctrine of Christ is being badly and increasingly diminished and watered down in our time.

What has any of this got to do with being Born Of The Spirit...

There is so much to learn after being born again.....so much more for the Spirit to reveal to the born again believer.

I’ve noticed that,,you need to understand that full context of scripture that I posted..you once again skated over it, and your supposed to be far more knowledgeable in scripture than me,LOL.

Yet can’t discuss the scripture I posted, I thought you were on meat..you’re still on milk @Lizbeth .

We are told in scripture to "forget (so to speak) what lies behind and reach for what lies ahead". We are to leave the newborn milk and "go on to perfection". If we remain as infants on milk and don't mature onto the meat of the word we will remain easy prey for the enemy, blown about by winds of doctrines.

What are you talking about, I am being conformed into Jesus image, we should be bearing his fruit?

Blown about by winds of doctrine, I’m Born Of The Spirit..my teacher is the Living Spirit whose at work in my heart all day every day...

What meat do you speak?..

I don’t see any knowledge coming out of you...especially heart knowledge, it’s non existent.

 

[Ritajanice]

In 1 John, the third person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit, bears witness to the identity and mission of Jesus Christ who came to save sinners. A Christian receives the indwelling of the Holy Spirit upon repentance and conversion, that is to say upon accepting Jesus Christ as their personal Savior. This is an individual choice that everyone must make in this age.

1 Timothy 1:14-15 (NKJV) 14 And the grace of our Lord was exceedingly abundant, with faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. 15 This [is] a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.

Again I ask you, what do you know about Jesus Christ?

Discuss.
You answer my questions for a change...

By whose testimony do you know Jesus?
What in you has been Born Again by whose testimony?
Whose Living seed have we been Born Again of?

Who birthed their Spirit into yours?

What are you saved from @LatterRain ?

What in you needs to know it’s been saved?....

Romans 8​

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King James Version​

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8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

 

[IronMaiden]

You answer my questions for a change...

I just did, in post #516. Yet, you still haven’t answered my question to you. What do you know about Jesus?

 

[Ritajanice]

I just did in post #516. Yet, you still haven’t answered my question to you. What do you know about Jesus?

No you haven’t...

By whose testimony do you know Jesus.

Discuss.
You answer my questions for a change...

By whose testimony do you know Jesus?
What in you has been Born Again by whose testimony?
Whose Living seed have we been Born Again of?

Who birthed their Spirit into yours?

What are you saved from @LatterRain ?

What in you needs to know it’s been saved?....

Romans 8​

King James Version​

8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
25 But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.
26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.