Battle For Your Heart

[quietthinker]

Curtis: This is not to point a finger only to you personally, it's also to others that also have joined this band wagon of group judgement of a servant who brings up a valid, and to many, an awkward heart and mind rattling point. It should be debated and not be outright condemned without further inquiry.

I believe the scripture you listed works both ways, and IMO strongly supports QT in this case because there is no support or inquiry into the validity of his point being done, except by the questioner himself, QT. He is the only one expounding on it. There should not be a mob ruling on this subject as with any subject here.

We are all meant to be servants on the same spiritual plane. The Master will indeed sort out any fuss in the end.

I believe QT is speaking from his heart and with conviction to support equal servanthood and spiritual footing in Christ to the Father, on this Forum.

He makes a point on the title of a person called 'Pastor' without trying to get personal. There is no other way to approach it IMO. And then suddenly folks charge in with a personal and even condemning charge of judgement against another brother. Are we that thin-skinned and lack understanding of what is being said here? Do we really know what QT is saying, or do we not care? Are we that fragile and fearful that we begin to condemn a point that deep inside is logical and fitting in a forum such as this one.

If I were to be in a forum of science and engineering for example, I could list many titles before my actual name, and many do this as a personal 'trip' for themselves. Do you think I would remain in this type of forum for long? Never in your life. I love to be true to myself as the Spirit of God guides me this way, without self-pride.

No, we are all meant to be servants, FREE to speak our minds as led, and not to eagerly gang up on one servant for making an awkward and valid suggestion that we 'feel' is not appropriate; or does it really offend our consciences? I believe some that have overreacted with their comments or are apologetic to not offend a 'Pastor', I believe, have had their consciences rattled in the spur of the moment, and why is this? Maybe we need to reexamine why we have reacted this way.

So who is really doing all the judging here in the end?

APAK

Wow, thanks for the support APAK...it has come unexpectedly.

 

[APAK]

@quietthinker You are welcome, and it will always be this way, any time for this type of cause and inquiry QT

Even though I do like you QT and you are fearless at times, which I tend to like a lot, I also made this argument for me and others in the future. As a reminder that we are all servants in Christ. We do not need a peanut gallery passing judgement on one servant when it's not warranted at all.

I saw where you were going with this. from your first post. You and I both are always apt to raise a red flag of caution/warning on this type of subject. You just beat me to the punch this time and you had more vitality and conviction.

 

[Curtis]

So when Paul pulled Peter into line, he was inappropriate?

... or are you quoting judgement texts against me to validate self glorification?

What Peter did wrong is found in scripture.

 

[Curtis]

Curtis: This is not to point a finger only to you personally, it's also to others that also have joined this band wagon of group judgement of a servant who brings up a valid, and to many, an awkward heart and mind rattling point. It should be debated and not be outright condemned without further inquiry.

I believe the scripture you listed works both ways, and IMO strongly supports QT in this case because there is no support or inquiry into the validity of his point being done, except by the questioner himself, QT. He is the only one expounding on it. There should not be a mob ruling on this subject as with any subject here.

We are all meant to be servants on the same spiritual plane. The Master will indeed sort out any fuss in the end.

I believe QT is speaking from his heart and with conviction to support equal servanthood and spiritual footing in Christ to the Father, on this Forum.

He makes a point on the title of a person called 'Pastor' without trying to get personal. There is no other way to approach it IMO. And then suddenly folks charge in with a personal and even condemning charge of judgement against another brother. Are we that thin-skinned and lack understanding of what is being said here? Do we really know what QT is saying, or do we not care? Are we that fragile and fearful that we begin to condemn a point that deep inside is logical and fitting in a forum such as this one.

If I were to be in a forum of science and engineering for example, I could list many titles before my actual name, and many do this as a personal 'trip' for themselves. Do you think I would remain in this type of forum for long? Never in your life. I love to be true to myself as the Spirit of God guides me this way, without self-pride.

No, we are all meant to be servants, FREE to speak our minds as led, and not to eagerly gang up on one servant for making an awkward and valid suggestion that we 'feel' is not appropriate; or does it really offend our consciences? I believe some that have overreacted with their comments or are apologetic to not offend a 'Pastor', I believe, have had their consciences rattled in the spur of the moment, and why is this? Maybe we need to reexamine why we have reacted this way.

So who is really doing all the judging here in the end?

APAK

I didn’t mention any name, but posted scripture with no comment.

Hmmm...

 

[Stumpmaster]

@quietthinker You are welcome, and it will always be this way, any time for this type of cause and inquiry QT

Even though I do like you QT and you are fearless at times, which I tend to like a lot, I also made this argument for me and others in the future. As a reminder that we are all servants in Christ. We do not need a peanut gallery passing judgement on one servant when it's not warranted at all.

I saw where you were going with this. from your first post. You and I both are always apt to raise a red flag of caution/warning on this type of subject. You just beat me to the punch this time and you had more vitality and conviction.

I'm on another Christian Forum which does not allow the use of titles in usernames, whether it be Reverend, Doctor, Pastor, Lord, Lady, Professor or whatever.

Some Doctors of Divinty and Professors of Theology do protest, and it becomes obvious how much they love their title and the appeal to authority it affords them.