Babylon, the mother of Harlots

[Berean]

I noticed your kingdomherald.com (Bible Students)

It appears that this organization was once part of the Jehovahs Witnesses that splintered off?

Actually, we were here first, even the Jehovah's Witnesses admit that the Bible Students started the Watchtower Society. It was simply a publishing house in those days, nothing more. After the death of C.T. Russell, the new leadership didn't honor his last will and testament causing a split, where the majority of the Bible Students abandoned the Society to function independently of it.

I noticed in one of the Orland Bible Students articles that the great Egyptian Pyramid was claimed to be the altar of the Lord?

Yes, it is believed that Isaiah 19:19-20 is speaking of the Great Pyramid. It should be noted that Bible Students are not the only group that believes this. It is of course a side thought and not an official doctrine that must be accepted.

 

[Berean]

In general, it seems that "the seven hills of Jerusalem" is a fairy tale. There is one city that is definitely located on seven hills, it is Rome. All the hills of Rome have names and their own history. I have not found information on the Internet about the names of the seven hills of Jerusalem.

But the harlot Babylon is not Rome either. Because she sits astride a beast with 10 horns, and she copulates with these "horns", the anti-commandments, the commandments of Satan. Each such anti-commandment is opposite to one of the Ten Commandments of God. And the prodigal religion gets pleasure from copulating with this world, which violates the commandments of God.

Thanks for all scriptural support

 

[Truth7t7]

Actually, we were here first, even the Jehovah's Witnesses admit that the Bible Students started the Watchtower Society. It was simply a publishing house in those days, nothing more. After the death of C.T. Russell, the new leadership didn't honor his last will and testament causing a split, where the majority of the Bible Students abandoned the Society to function independently of it.

Yes, it is believed that Isaiah 19:19-20 is speaking of the Great Pyramid. It should be noted that Bible Students are not the only group that believes this. It is of course a side thought and not an official doctrine that must be accepted.

Thanks for the response, I disagree with Charles Taze Russel and his teachings, Hell, Trinity, Pyramidology, False Predictions Second Coming, on and on

 

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The kingdom of the world is the beast from the sea. "The sea" is a symbol of the unbelieving world. In the future world there will be no "sea" because everyone will become believers:

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. (Revelation 21:1)

The name of the beast is given in the New Testament, in different translations of the Bible it sounds like Riches (KJV) or Prosperity (NASB). The second beast coming out of the earth has the name Tradition, it is also given in the New Testament. All these names of the beasts have numerical values equal to 666.

εὑπορία = (5 + 400 + 80 + 70 + 100 + 10 + 1) = 666 (Acts 19:25)

παράδοσις = (80 + 1 + 100 + 1 + 4 + 70 + 200 + 10 + 200) = 666 (Matthew 15:2)

The harlot is those Christians who strive for wealth and follow a religious tradition that calls to serve this world. This is the religion of the antichrist.

False
The harlot is Jerusalem.

The harlot of harlots


Jeremiah
2 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying,

2 Go and cry in the ears of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the Lord; I remember thee, the kindness of thy youth, the love of thine espousals, when thou wentest after me in the wilderness, in a land that was not sown.

3 Israel was holiness unto the Lord, and the firstfruits of his increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith the Lord.

4 Hear ye the word of the Lord, O house of Jacob, and all the families of the house of Israel:

5 Thus saith the Lord, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?


6 Neither said they, Where is the Lord that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, that led us through the wilderness, through a land of deserts and of pits, through a land of drought, and of the shadow of death, through a land that no man passed through, and where no man dwelt?

7 And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled my land, and made mine heritage an abomination.

8 The priests said not, Where is the Lord? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit.

9 Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the Lord, and with your children's children will I plead.

10 For pass over the isles of Chittim, and see; and send unto Kedar, and consider diligently, and see if there be such a thing.

11 Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.

12 Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the Lord.

13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

14 Is Israel a servant? is he a homeborn slave? why is he spoiled?

15 The young lions roared upon him, and yelled, and they made his land waste: his cities are burned without inhabitant.

16 Also the children of Noph and Tahapanes have broken the crown of thy head.

17 Hast thou not procured this unto thyself, in that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God, when he led thee by the way?

18 And now what hast thou to do in the way of Egypt, to drink the waters of Sihor? or what hast thou to do in the way of Assyria, to drink the waters of the river?

19 Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord God of hosts.

20 For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.

21 Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me?

22 For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord God.

23 How canst thou say, I am not polluted, I have not gone after Baalim? see thy way in the valley, know what thou hast done: thou art a swift dromedary traversing her ways;

24 A wild ass used to the wilderness, that snuffeth up the wind at her pleasure; in her occasion who can turn her away? all they that seek her will not weary themselves; in her month they shall find her.

25 Withhold thy foot from being unshod, and thy throat from thirst: but thou saidst, There is no hope: no; for I have loved strangers, and after them will I go.

26 As the thief is ashamed when he is found, so is the house of Israel ashamed; they, their kings, their princes, and their priests, and their prophets.

27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.

28 But where are thy gods that thou hast made thee? let them arise, if they can save thee in the time of thy trouble: for according to the number of thy cities are thy gods, O Judah.

29 Wherefore will ye plead with me? ye all have transgressed against me, saith the Lord.

30 In vain have I smitten your children; they received no correction: your own sword hath devoured your prophets, like a destroying lion.

31 O generation, see ye the word of the Lord. Have I been a wilderness unto Israel? a land of darkness? wherefore say my people, We are lords; we will come no more unto thee?

32 Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.

33 Why trimmest thou thy way to seek love? therefore hast thou also taught the wicked ones thy ways.

34 Also in thy skirts is found the blood of the souls of the poor innocents: I have not found it by secret search, but upon all these.

35 Yet thou sayest, Because I am innocent, surely his anger shall turn from me. Behold, I will plead with thee, because thou sayest, I have not sinned.

36 Why gaddest thou about so much to change thy way? thou also shalt be ashamed of Egypt, as thou wast ashamed of Assyria.

37 Yea, thou shalt go forth from him, and thine hands upon thine head: for the Lord hath rejected thy confidences, and thou shalt not prosper in them.

 

[tailgator]

You can try, but in any case, neither Jerusalem nor Rome are the same Babylon the Whore spoken of in Revelation.

And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth. (Revelation 17:18)

"The kings of the earth" are the leaders of the Christian religion. They lead all carnal Christians to Armageddon, the battle for material goods in this world. In this "battle" the shame of such Christians is revealed:

Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things. (Philippians 3:19)

Compare with:

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
(Revelation 16:13-16)

Armageddon. "Ar" (הַר) - mountain, "gad" (גַד) - happiness, "megad" (מֶגָד) - a gift from heaven, good, "-on" (וֹן) - a diminutive suffix, with disdain. "Mountain of prosperity", "Mountain of freebies".

The place called armegeddon is in Israel.
It's not in the first national bank of Huntsville Alabama.

The word "Armageddon" comes from the Hebrew phrase har məgīddō, which translates to "mountain of Megiddo". The word appears in the Greek New Testament in Revelation 16:16.


The "mount" of Megiddo in northern Israel is not actually a mountain, but a tell (a mound or hill created by many generations of people living and rebuilding at the same spot)[5] on which ancient forts were built to guard the Via Maris, an ancient trade route linking Egypt with the northern empires of Syria, Anatolia and Mesopotamia. Megiddo was the location of various ancient battles, including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC. The nearby modern Megiddo is a kibbutz in the Kishon River area.[6]

Armageddon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Galgal]

False
The harlot is Jerusalem.

The harlot of harlots


Jeremiah
2 Moreover the word of the Lord came to me, saying,

2 Go and cry in the ears of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the Lord; I remember thee, the kindness of thy youth, the love of thine espousals, when thou wentest after me in the wilderness, in a land that was not sown.

3 Israel was holiness unto the Lord, and the firstfruits of his increase: all that devour him shall offend; evil shall come upon them, saith the Lord.

4 Hear ye the word of the Lord, O house of Jacob, and all the families of the house of Israel:

5 Thus saith the Lord, What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me, and have walked after vanity, and are become vain?


6 Neither said they, Where is the Lord that brought us up out of the land of Egypt, that led us through the wilderness, through a land of deserts and of pits, through a land of drought, and of the shadow of death, through a land that no man passed through, and where no man dwelt?

7 And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled my land, and made mine heritage an abomination.

8 The priests said not, Where is the Lord? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit.

9 Wherefore I will yet plead with you, saith the Lord, and with your children's children will I plead.

10 For pass over the isles of Chittim, and see; and send unto Kedar, and consider diligently, and see if there be such a thing.

11 Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit.

12 Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the Lord.

13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

14 Is Israel a servant? is he a homeborn slave? why is he spoiled?

15 The young lions roared upon him, and yelled, and they made his land waste: his cities are burned without inhabitant.

16 Also the children of Noph and Tahapanes have broken the crown of thy head.

17 Hast thou not procured this unto thyself, in that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God, when he led thee by the way?

18 And now what hast thou to do in the way of Egypt, to drink the waters of Sihor? or what hast thou to do in the way of Assyria, to drink the waters of the river?

19 Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the Lord thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord God of hosts.

20 For of old time I have broken thy yoke, and burst thy bands; and thou saidst, I will not transgress; when upon every high hill and under every green tree thou wanderest, playing the harlot.

21 Yet I had planted thee a noble vine, wholly a right seed: how then art thou turned into the degenerate plant of a strange vine unto me?

22 For though thou wash thee with nitre, and take thee much soap, yet thine iniquity is marked before me, saith the Lord God.

23 How canst thou say, I am not polluted, I have not gone after Baalim? see thy way in the valley, know what thou hast done: thou art a swift dromedary traversing her ways;

24 A wild ass used to the wilderness, that snuffeth up the wind at her pleasure; in her occasion who can turn her away? all they that seek her will not weary themselves; in her month they shall find her.

25 Withhold thy foot from being unshod, and thy throat from thirst: but thou saidst, There is no hope: no; for I have loved strangers, and after them will I go.

26 As the thief is ashamed when he is found, so is the house of Israel ashamed; they, their kings, their princes, and their priests, and their prophets.

27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.

28 But where are thy gods that thou hast made thee? let them arise, if they can save thee in the time of thy trouble: for according to the number of thy cities are thy gods, O Judah.

29 Wherefore will ye plead with me? ye all have transgressed against me, saith the Lord.

30 In vain have I smitten your children; they received no correction: your own sword hath devoured your prophets, like a destroying lion.

31 O generation, see ye the word of the Lord. Have I been a wilderness unto Israel? a land of darkness? wherefore say my people, We are lords; we will come no more unto thee?

32 Can a maid forget her ornaments, or a bride her attire? yet my people have forgotten me days without number.

33 Why trimmest thou thy way to seek love? therefore hast thou also taught the wicked ones thy ways.

34 Also in thy skirts is found the blood of the souls of the poor innocents: I have not found it by secret search, but upon all these.

35 Yet thou sayest, Because I am innocent, surely his anger shall turn from me. Behold, I will plead with thee, because thou sayest, I have not sinned.

36 Why gaddest thou about so much to change thy way? thou also shalt be ashamed of Egypt, as thou wast ashamed of Assyria.

37 Yea, thou shalt go forth from him, and thine hands upon thine head: for the Lord hath rejected thy confidences, and thou shalt not prosper in them.

The Revelation of John does not denounce the Jews, but the Christians. Because this book was written for Christians.

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
(Revelation 16:13,14)

The three spiritual frogs that drag denominational leaders to Armageddon have their own names.

Out of the mouth of the devil comes the lust for Power.
Out of the mouth of the beast comes the lust for Money.
Out of the mouth of the false prophet comes the lust for Glory.

These three unclean aspirations that guide the leaders of carnal Christians direct Christians to pray for this world, to choose the next president-antichrist, to build a world system of evil.

The beast from the sea is the animal instinct in man, the desire for Wealth, which directs people to use their minds to deceive other people. This instinct prompts a person to lie for his own benefit, prompts him to steal, robbing the whole society, privatizing public property into personal property. Led by this animal desire for Prosperity, they receive the mark of the beast on their forehead when they lie. And they receive the mark of the beast on their right hand when they steal. Many Christians are mired in this lawlessness. And you try to blame it all on Jerusalem, which has never been the center of this world, like Wall Street, where Satan's throne is now.

 

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The Revelation of John does not denounce the Jews, but the Christians. Because this book was written for Christians.

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
(Revelation 16:13,14)

The three spiritual frogs that drag denominational leaders to Armageddon have their own names.

Out of the mouth of the devil comes the lust for Power.
Out of the mouth of the beast comes the lust for Money.
Out of the mouth of the false prophet comes the lust for Glory.

These three unclean aspirations that guide the leaders of carnal Christians direct Christians to pray for this world, to choose the next president-antichrist, to build a world system of evil.

The beast from the sea is the animal instinct in man, the desire for Wealth, which directs people to use their minds to deceive other people. This instinct prompts a person to lie for his own benefit, prompts him to steal, robbing the whole society, privatizing public property into personal property. Led by this animal desire for Prosperity, they receive the mark of the beast on their forehead when they lie. And they receive the mark of the beast on their right hand when they steal. Many Christians are mired in this lawlessness. And you try to blame it all on Jerusalem, which has never been the center of this world, like Wall Street, where Satan's throne is now.

You say the book.of revelation does not denounce a Jew?

It denounces everyone who calls themselves a Jew but are not.


You denounce anyone who believes in Christ and you support the Jews who curse Jesus and reject him..


The beast is exactly what the Israelites wanted when they rejected God.They wanted a king like the gentiles have and that is exactly what they have today.

PS
Benjamin netanyahu said he wants his number implantable microchips in everyone in Israel.What are you going to say after he gets what he wants?
You still going to support all antichrist who openly reject Jesus and support netanyahu as king of the Jews?

 

[Galgal]

The place called armegeddon is in Israel.
It's not in the first national bank of Huntsville Alabama.

The word "Armageddon" comes from the Hebrew phrase har məgīddō, which translates to "mountain of Megiddo". The word appears in the Greek New Testament in Revelation 16:16.


The "mount" of Megiddo in northern Israel is not actually a mountain, but a tell (a mound or hill created by many generations of people living and rebuilding at the same spot)[5] on which ancient forts were built to guard the Via Maris, an ancient trade route linking Egypt with the northern empires of Syria, Anatolia and Mesopotamia. Megiddo was the location of various ancient battles, including one in the 15th century BC and one in 609 BC. The nearby modern Megiddo is a kibbutz in the Kishon River area.[6]

Armageddon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Revelation describes spiritual things. Revelation is an allegory. It is pointless to look for Armageddon on geographical maps. If you have not understood the first chapter of Genesis, which describes the creation of the INNER world in man, then you will not be able to understand anything in Revelation.

Military battles are scary not because of the shame that opens up among the participants. Military battles are terrible because their participant can die. And Armageddon is terrible because of its shame. When unbelievers now see the behavior of Christians busy acquiring material goods, they will give a correct assessment of such believers. Such believers dishonor God, calling themselves by the holy name of Christ. This shame of theirs will reach its apogee during the period of the vials of wrath.

 

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Revelation describes spiritual things. Revelation is an allegory. It is pointless to look for Armageddon on geographical maps. If you have not understood the first chapter of Genesis, which describes the creation of the INNER world in man, then you will not be able to understand anything in Revelation.

Military battles are scary not because of the shame that opens up among the participants. Military battles are terrible because their participant can die. And Armageddon is terrible because of its shame. When unbelievers now see the behavior of Christians busy acquiring material goods, they will give a correct assessment of such believers. Such believers dishonor God, calling themselves by the holy name of Christ. This shame of theirs will reach its apogee during the period of the vials of wrath.

While you wander what tell megiddo is,the Islamic nations are plotting their course for that that in Israel.

 

[Galgal]

You say the book.of revelation does not denounce a Jew?

It denounces everyone who calls themselves a Jew but are not.


You denounce anyone who believes in Christ and you support the Jews who curse Jesus and reject him..


The beast is exactly what the Israelites wanted when they rejected God.They wanted a king like the gentiles have and that is exactly what they have today.

PS
Benjamin netanyahu said he wants his number implantable microchips in everyone in Israel.What are you going to say after he gets what he wants?
You still going to support all antichrist who openly reject Jesus and support netanyahu as king of the Jews?

Those who believe in Christ have mostly left the "Christian" denominations long ago. The rest of the faithful to Christ will be expelled from Christianity during the period of seals and trumpets. Those who remain in the denominations after the entrance of the chosen ones through the eastern gate of the Third Temple will be captured by the Antichrist, will go to Armageddon, and will receive the vials of wrath from God.

Don't blame the Israelis for what everyone who lives according to the flesh wants. 2000 years ago, the Israelis wanted to kill Jesus Christ because he contradicted their expectations. Now, most Christians do not want the Second Coming of Christ either, they resist the word of God, written in their Bible, where God commands us to build the Third Temple. Therefore, we still need to see who is the greater enemy of God today - the Jews or the Christians.

In the First Coming, the fatal mistake of the Jews was that they followed the decision of the Sanhedrin, listened to the authorities. At the Second Coming, God will show mercy to the Jews: the leaders of the Jews will make the right decision and build the Third Temple:

In that day, saith the Lord, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the Lord of hosts their God.
(Zechariah 12:4,5)

But for Christians in the Second Coming there will be the same test as there was for the Jews in the First Coming: the leaders of the Christians will be opponents of the Temple and opponents of Christ in the Second Coming. Jesus Christ will be incarnated in Israel at the Second Coming. Those who have the Holy Spirit to discern truth from falsehood will support Israel, support the building of the Third Temple, and help the saints who will be gathered there. And those who do not have the Holy Spirit will remain in the denominations of Christianity and will go to Armageddon.

 

[Galgal]

While you wander what tell megiddo is,the Islamic nations are plotting their course for that that in Israel.

The Islamists will not succeed. After the Jewish leaders decide to build the Temple described in Ezekiel's prophecy, this will happen:

In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem. (Zechariah 12:6)

The ending of the verse is interesting: "and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem". It means that the Heavenly Jerusalem will be where the earthly Jerusalem is.

 

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The Islamists will not succeed. After the Jewish leaders decide to build the Temple described in Ezekiel's prophecy, this will happen:

In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem. (Zechariah 12:6)

The ending of the verse is interesting: "and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem". It means that the Heavenly Jerusalem will be where the earthly Jerusalem is.

Ezekiel temple in Ezekiel 40 is 1000 years after Israel is resurected out of the graves in Ezekiel 37.

Ezekiel 37-40 is the same events of revelation 20-21.

The beast is destroyed ,revelation 19

The saints who were killed by the beast are resurected and Gog comes against Israel -revelation 20

New Jerusalem comes down from heaven,revelation 21

 

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Don't blame the Israelis for what everyone who lives according to the flesh wants.

Its not me that is blaming Israel for being a prostitute.Its God who has spoken through his prophets that says Jerusalem is a prostitute.


But you say the prophets of God are all wrong .You say Jerusalem is not a prostitute and remains faithful to God as a bride and is not a prostitute.



"35 Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the Lord:"

Ezekiel 17

16 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,

3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.

4 And as for thy nativity, in the day thou wast born thy navel was not cut, neither wast thou washed in water to supple thee; thou wast not salted at all, nor swaddled at all.

5 None eye pitied thee, to do any of these unto thee, to have compassion upon thee; but thou wast cast out in the open field, to the lothing of thy person, in the day that thou wast born.

6 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live.

I have caused thee to multiply as the bud of the field, and thou hast increased and waxen great, and thou art come to excellent ornaments: thy breasts are fashioned, and thine hair is grown, whereas thou wast naked and bare.

8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord God, and thou becamest mine.

9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.

10 I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers' skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I covered thee with silk.

11 I decked thee also with ornaments, and I put bracelets upon thy hands, and a chain on thy neck.

12 And I put a jewel on thy forehead, and earrings in thine ears, and a beautiful crown upon thine head.

13 Thus wast thou decked with gold and silver; and thy raiment was of fine linen, and silk, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and thou wast exceeding beautiful, and thou didst prosper into a kingdom.

14 And thy renown went forth among the heathen for thy beauty: for it was perfect through my comeliness, which I had put upon thee, saith the Lord God.

15 But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

16 And of thy garments thou didst take, and deckedst thy high places with divers colours, and playedst the harlot thereupon: the like things shall not come, neither shall it be so.

17 Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,

18 And tookest thy broidered garments, and coveredst them: and thou hast set mine oil and mine incense before them.

19 My meat also which I gave thee, fine flour, and oil, and honey, wherewith I fed thee, thou hast even set it before them for a sweet savour: and thus it was, saith the Lord God.

20 Moreover thou hast taken thy sons and thy daughters, whom thou hast borne unto me, and these hast thou sacrificed unto them to be devoured. Is this of thy whoredoms a small matter,

21 That thou hast slain my children, and delivered them to cause them to pass through the fire for them?

22 And in all thine abominations and thy whoredoms thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, when thou wast naked and bare, and wast polluted in thy blood.

23 And it came to pass after all thy wickedness, (woe, woe unto thee! saith the Lord God;)

24 That thou hast also built unto thee an eminent place, and hast made thee an high place in every street.

25 Thou hast built thy high place at every head of the way, and hast made thy beauty to be abhorred, and hast opened thy feet to every one that passed by, and multiplied thy whoredoms.

26 Thou hast also committed fornication with the Egyptians thy neighbours, great of flesh; and hast increased thy whoredoms, to provoke me to anger.

27 Behold, therefore I have stretched out my hand over thee, and have diminished thine ordinary food, and delivered thee unto the will of them that hate thee, the daughters of the Philistines, which are ashamed of thy lewd way.

28 Thou hast played the whore also with the Assyrians, because thou wast unsatiable; yea, thou hast played the harlot with them, and yet couldest not be satisfied.

29 Thou hast moreover multiplied thy fornication in the land of Canaan unto Chaldea; and yet thou wast not satisfied therewith.

30 How weak is thine heart, saith the Lord God, seeing thou doest all these things, the work of an imperious whorish woman;

31 In that thou buildest thine eminent place in the head of every way, and makest thine high place in every street; and hast not been as an harlot, in that thou scornest hire;

32 But as a wife that committeth adultery, which taketh strangers instead of her husband!

33 They give gifts to all whores: but thou givest thy gifts to all thy lovers, and hirest them, that they may come unto thee on every side for thy whoredom.

34 And the contrary is in thee from other women in thy whoredoms, whereas none followeth thee to commit whoredoms: and in that thou givest a reward, and no reward is given unto thee, therefore thou art contrary.

35 Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the Lord:

 

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35 Wherefore, O harlot, hear the word of the Lord:

36 Thus saith the Lord God; Because thy filthiness was poured out, and thy nakedness discovered through thy whoredoms with thy lovers, and with all the idols of thy abominations, and by the blood of thy children, which thou didst give unto them;

37 Behold, therefore I will gather all thy lovers, with whom thou hast taken pleasure, and all them that thou hast loved, with all them that thou hast hated; I will even gather them round about against thee, and will discover thy nakedness unto them, that they may see all thy nakedness.

38 And I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy.

39 And I will also give thee into their hand, and they shall throw down thine eminent place, and shall break down thy high places: they shall strip thee also of thy clothes, and shall take thy fair jewels, and leave thee naked and bare.

40 They shall also bring up a company against thee, and they shall stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their swords.

41 And they shall burn thine houses with fire, and execute judgments upon thee in the sight of many women: and I will cause thee to cease from playing the harlot, and thou also shalt give no hire any more.

42 So will I make my fury toward thee to rest, and my jealousy shall depart from thee, and I will be quiet, and will be no more angry.

43 Because thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, but hast fretted me in all these things; behold, therefore I also will recompense thy way upon thine head, saith the Lord God: and thou shalt not commit this lewdness above all thine abominations.

44 Behold, every one that useth proverbs shall use this proverb against thee, saying, As is the mother, so is her daughter.

45 Thou art thy mother's daughter, that lotheth her husband and her children; and thou art the sister of thy sisters, which lothed their husbands and their children: your mother was an Hittite, and your father an Amorite.

46 And thine elder sister is Samaria, she and her daughters that dwell at thy left hand: and thy younger sister, that dwelleth at thy right hand, is Sodom and her daughters.

47 Yet hast thou not walked after their ways, nor done after their abominations: but, as if that were a very little thing, thou wast corrupted more than they in all thy ways.

48 As I live, saith the Lord God, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.

49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

50 And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

51 Neither hath Samaria committed half of thy sins; but thou hast multiplied thine abominations more than they, and hast justified thy sisters in all thine abominations which thou hast done.

52 Thou also, which hast judged thy sisters, bear thine own shame for thy sins that thou hast committed more abominable than they: they are more righteous than thou: yea, be thou confounded also, and bear thy shame, in that thou hast justified thy sisters.

53 When I shall bring again their captivity, the captivity of Sodom and her daughters, and the captivity of Samaria and her daughters, then will I bring again the captivity of thy captives in the midst of them:

54 That thou mayest bear thine own shame, and mayest be confounded in all that thou hast done, in that thou art a comfort unto them.

55 When thy sisters, Sodom and her daughters, shall return to their former estate, and Samaria and her daughters shall return to their former estate, then thou and thy daughters shall return to your former estate.

56 For thy sister Sodom was not mentioned by thy mouth in the day of thy pride,

57 Before thy wickedness was discovered, as at the time of thy reproach of the daughters of Syria, and all that are round about her, the daughters of the Philistines, which despise thee round about.

58 Thou hast borne thy lewdness and thine abominations, saith the Lord.

59 For thus saith the Lord God; I will even deal with thee as thou hast done, which hast despised the oath in breaking the covenant.

60 Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.

61 Then thou shalt remember thy ways, and be ashamed, when thou shalt receive thy sisters, thine elder and thy younger: and I will give them unto thee for daughters, but not by thy covenant.

62 And I will establish my covenant with thee; and thou shalt know that I am the Lord:

63 That thou mayest remember, and be confounded, and never open thy mouth any more because of thy shame, when I am pacified toward thee for all that thou hast done, saith the Lord God.

 

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Ezekiel temple in Ezekiel 40 is 1000 years after Israel is resurected out of the graves in Ezekiel 37.

Ezekiel 37-40 is the same events of revelation 20-21.

The beast is destroyed ,revelation 19

The saints who were killed by the beast are resurected and Gog comes against Israel -revelation 20

New Jerusalem comes down from heaven,revelation 21

There is no subsequent and previous in the Holy Scriptures.

First, Ezekiel 37 and Ezekiel 40-48 will be fulfilled. Then there will be the Millennial Kingdom. At the end of the Kingdom - the invasion of Gog, according to Revelation, Ezekiel 38,39.

Chapter 37 itself cannot be fulfilled without the fulfillment of 40-48. The Third Temple will bring together Jews and Christians, two sticks in the hand of Ezekiel.

The invasion of Gog, although attributed to the end of the Millennial period, also has a timeless fulfillment. This is an allegory for the attempts of other religions and other peoples to seize God's promises to the Jews. For example, the "replacement theory." Or the messianic ambitions of Russian Orthodoxy, which seriously believes that before Christ there was an Orthodox faith in Israel, and Judaism is a religion that appeared in the 1st century.

The "bones" of God's people will come to life - the 144,000. The teachings of men, though they now seem alive, will become dead bones that will be buried outside of Israel. This is the spiritual meaning of chapters 38 and 39.

The New Jerusalem will descend from the heavens now, its earthly projection will be the city of Yahweh Shammah, which is to be built in Israel soon after the construction of the Third Temple.

 

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Its not me that is blaming Israel for being a prostitute.Its God who has spoken through his prophets that says Jerusalem is a prostitute.


But you say the prophets of God are all wrong .You say Jerusalem is not a prostitute and remains faithful to God as a bride and is not a prostitute.

Apparently, you do not distinguish in the Scriptures what pertained to ancient times, and what pertains to the present time. When we consider the harlot from Revelation, it is ANY religion that serves this world. This "beast" was already in the times of Ancient Egypt - and there was a harlot then too. And now there is also a "beast", the world system of power. The "head" of the beast is now the USA. Accordingly, the "harlot" now is the Christian religion.

 

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There is no subsequent and previous in the Holy Scriptures.

First, Ezekiel 37 and Ezekiel 40-48 will be fulfilled. Then there will be the Millennial Kingdom. At the end of the Kingdom - the invasion of Gog, according to Revelation, Ezekiel 38,39.

Chapter 37 itself cannot be fulfilled without the fulfillment of 40-48. The Third Temple will bring together Jews and Christians, two sticks in the hand of Ezekiel.

The invasion of Gog, although attributed to the end of the Millennial period, also has a timeless fulfillment. This is an allegory for the attempts of other religions and other peoples to seize God's promises to the Jews. For example, the "replacement theory." Or the messianic ambitions of Russian Orthodoxy, which seriously believes that before Christ there was an Orthodox faith in Israel, and Judaism is a religion that appeared in the 1st century.

The "bones" of God's people will come to life - the 144,000. The teachings of men, though they now seem alive, will become dead bones that will be buried outside of Israel. This is the spiritual meaning of chapters 38 and 39.

The New Jerusalem will descend from the heavens now, its earthly projection will be the city of Yahweh Shammah, which is to be built in Israel soon after the construction of the Third Temple.

You can't get anything right.
Ezekiel 37 -48 is in correct order.Your have no order. You are in a state of confusion.

You need to just leave the prophesying to the prophets.

 

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Apparently, you do not distinguish in the Scriptures what pertained to ancient times, and what pertains to the present time. When we consider the harlot from Revelation, it is ANY religion that serves this world. This "beast" was already in the times of Ancient Egypt - and there was a harlot then too. And now there is also a "beast", the world system of power. The "head" of the beast is now the USA. Accordingly, the "harlot" now is the Christian religion.

You can't distinguish what the prophets are saying even though it is very clear.
Jerusalem is a prostitute.Plain and simple


Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers!

And no,this is not talking about New York City or Chicago.

 

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You can't distinguish what the prophets are saying even though it is very clear.
Jerusalem is a prostitute.Plain and simple


Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers!

And no,this is not talking about New York City or Chicago.

First, this prophecy related directly to the times when he prophesied.

Secondly, now this prophecy is related to Christian denominations as spiritual successors of ancient Israel. Now in Christianity there is all the same: instead of justice - murderers, instead of God's law - lawlessness, instead of the real Jesus Christ - a false Christ, supposedly born on December 25, the birthday of the Roman god of the sun.

So please relate all such prophecies first to yourselves.

 

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You can't get anything right.
Ezekiel 37 -48 is in correct order.Your have no order. You are in a state of confusion.

You need to just leave the prophesying to the prophets.

There are rules for interpreting Scripture. One of the rules is that there is no subsequent and previous in Scripture. If event A is described before event B, this does not prove that event A happened before the time of event B. God views time differently than people. God has everything together: past, present, and future. He sees everything at once.

In order for you to learn to understand the times of events indicated in Scripture, you must first understand the logical relationship between all these events. You must understand what are the causes and what are the consequences. You must carefully look at the pointers that are in the compared passages of Scripture.

The events of Gog of Magog definitely refer to the time after the Millennial Kingdom. This is according to Revelation. And the events of Gog in the prophecy of Ezekiel also cannot refer to the present time, because now there is no condition: the safety of the population of Israel. In all the years of Israel's existence since 1948, the Jews have never felt safe there. Wars and intifadas followed one another.

As for the Third Temple, described in chapters 40-48, this is a necessary condition for the return of the Jews. And the 37th chapter cannot be fulfilled without the construction of the Temple. Because there the two sticks in Ezekiel's hand symbolize the Jews and Christians.

The "two witnesses", Judaism and Christianity, will come to life only when the Third Temple is built. And then the Millennial Kingdom will come, during which human tradition in religions will be destroyed, and this is shown as the death of the horde of Gog from the land of Magog. This process can continue for a long time, but Revelation paints the finale, when the hordes of Gog will be finally condemned by fire falling from Heaven.