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I didn't - You said "no mans time is up till GOD says so" which is not necessarily true.

Man is the one deciding to either sow to the flesh or sow to the Spirit . . . not God.

There are scriptures that speak of things man can do to SHORTEN his life.
Then, there are scriptures that speak of things man can do to LENGTHEN his life.

God does not look down on someone and decide "this guy';s time is up, so I'm going to whack him"
I didn't say that. Amigo did.
 

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That's humanism, not Christianity.

I wouldn't expect those that know so little of God's Word to understand disagree.gif


satan is a liar and the father of it. So, you are lying again.

calvinists are tares among the wheat.... they won't be found in God's Kingdom since heresy is listed in the New Testament as a work of the flesh which is on the Lord's list of things that cause one to no enter in to His Kingdom.

You should REPENT whilst you still can... or not.
 

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Man is the one deciding to either sow to the flesh or sow to the Spirit . . . not God.

There are scriptures that speak of things man can do to SHORTEN his life.
Then, there are scriptures that speak of things man can do to LENGTHEN his life.

God does not look down on someone and decide "this guy';s time is up, so I'm going to whack him"
Thank you for posting.

Exactly how God’s Providence plays out is worthy of discussion.

Book of Esther: God does not make an appearance. One decide whether everything that happens is random or coincidental, or can begin to understand the interplay between free will and God’s will.

See also the Book of Ruth. Did Ruth just happen to choose the field of Boaz? Etc.

And then there is 2 Samuel 17: King David had prayed that the counsel of his enemy would be defeated, and how it plays out can be attributed to God’s subtle intervention, or just happenstance.

So: do we live in a world of chance and coincidence, or do you believe God is influencing people subtly to bring about His purposes?

Blessings.
 
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I wouldn't expect those that know so little of God's Word to understand View attachment 47761




calvinists are tares among the wheat.... they won't be found in God's Kingdom since heresy is listed in the New Testament as a work of the flesh which is on the Lord's list of things that cause one to no enter in to His Kingdom.

You should REPENT whilst you still can... or not.
You need to repent from your hatred against Christians.
 

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So: do we live in a world of chance and coincidence, or do you believe God is influencing people subtly to bring about His purposes?


In God's sovereignty, He decided to give dominion over the earth to man as we see in the Book of Genesis.

His intention was for man to self rule under the Lord's leadership, but man sinned and not the devil is the god of this world as the Lord tells us thru Paul's writings.

Sure there are something things man cannot interfere with such as Jesus going to the Cross... but by and large man is deciding what seeds he is sowing as we see in Gal 6:7,8 where we are told by the Lord that God is not mocked, whatsoever a man sows that shall he also reap.

God set things up so man is the one who either sows to the Spirit by walking in agreement with the Lord being lead by the Lord.... or, man can sow to the flesh and reap corruption.

Once Jesus arrives and starts His 1000 year reign, He will be taking over management of the earth and man will no longer be self governing as the Lord originally setup.

Some say the Lord is controlling the events of this world as it is now... if that were true then God and the devil would have to be the same guy.

As things are right now, the Lord is allowing man to reap what he sows which is why the entire world is going downhill fast.
 

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God may have been working in more ways than we first realized.

If the assassin had not been an amateur, President Trump would now likely be dead. (Secret Service snipers took out the assassin quickly.) Have professional snipers already infiltrated this country, via the porous border, and do they already have plans in progress?

The Secret Service should have denied any sniper the opportunity to set up within mile of the rally. We can hope the Secret Service will do much better in the future.

Yesterday, An innocent bystander was in fact killed. For reference, in 1981, when President Reagan was shot, Press Secretary J Brady was not only shot but sustained disabling brain damage.

(For reference, we learned during the Iraq war the necessity of stopping IEDs “before the bang.” Rethinking IED Strategies: from Iraq to Afghanistan)

Peace and blessings.
 

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I didn't - You said "no mans time is up till GOD says so" which is not necessarily true.

Man is the one deciding to either sow to the flesh or sow to the Spirit . . . not God.

There are scriptures that speak of things man can do to SHORTEN his life.
Then, there are scriptures that speak of things man can do to LENGTHEN his life.

God does not look down on someone and decide "this guy';s time is up, so I'm going to whack him"

Agree.

True…man can kill man, including killing himself…

True…man can die, per an accident, per a disease, per old age.

Fact is; ALL men SHALL Die, by whatever cause.

Fact is; GOD KNOWS (long before man does), When and How ALL men shall die.

Fact is; in the Pennsylvania Trump rally, one man had the Means, Opportunity, Intent to Murder Trump, and in Fact Kill a man and injured three people.
That man was the CAUSE of an other Death, and Injury to three other…
AND…another man CAUSE that mans death.


God Bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken
 
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Just because someone has a near death experience does not automatically mean God stepped in to save them.

In this case it was just an inexperienced shooter who was given ample opportunity by the secret service to take Trump out.

Next time they'll have a better trained shooter or maybe they'll try poison in his food.

It's doubtful Trump will survive much longer so if he did win the election I hope he picks a good VP since that's who is going to take over.
I think he picked a vice-president who sees things as he does.
 

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actually it does . no mans time is up till GOD says so .
YOU should rather be saying just cause a man was saved and not killed DONT MEAN HE KNOWS OR FOLLOWS GOD .
but beleive you me , had trumps time been up HE would have fallen to that bullet and nothing any man
did could have saved him .
Ps , DO NOT vote for biden or any progressive liberal .
Now i wont be voting for trump , but believe me its cause i do have my reasons .
BUT WHATEVER YOU DO , DO NOT VOTE FOR BIDEN . dont do it , i dont care if a gun is held to your head
DO not vote for that man . If trump would dump the liberal pope driven agenda
of the religoius tolerance act and abraham peace accords , well maybe , just maybe i would vote for him .
OH marvel not , heck its all over the nar realm . many now do the works of the most progressive liberal agenda
and many of them are even in THE CONSERVATIVE CHURCHES too . we getting duped pard . big time .
If you don't vote for Donald, you're helping the progressives. Don't do that. Much of the negativity you hear about Donald isn't true.
 

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Man is the one deciding to either sow to the flesh or sow to the Spirit . . . not God.

There are scriptures that speak of things man can do to SHORTEN his life.
Then, there are scriptures that speak of things man can do to LENGTHEN his life.

God does not look down on someone and decide "this guy';s time is up, so I'm going to whack him"
Well, I think God does give us a free will. He doesn't dictate what we do. But God has a lot of influence. He determines outcomes.
 

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If you don't vote for Donald, you're helping the progressives. Don't do that. Much of the negativity you hear about Donald isn't true.
Why my dear friend . its time we pull up a chair
and sit down and really hear what it is i have been saying .
My dear friend and comrade , DO you really THINK i heed ONE WORD of satans mainstream news .
However i do thank you and highly thank you for at least having said that reminder .
You see i harbor no ill will towards any . In fact if i be in the least of errors , I WANT someone to correct me .
Now back to the subject . You said much negativity you hear , now when you say you hear
you suspect that i might be getting my info from the mainstream news .
HECK THE NO and HECK NO . I actually am a researcher . IF any man , no matter if he is my best
friend or my worst enemy , says something concerning another
YOU can bet your bottom to top dollar , I DONT take them at their word . A COIN has two sides my friend .
THIS gringo investigates .
YES i said even my best friend . IF the person who loved me most
came and told me something about another
YA wanna know what i would first tell them . WELL lets go talk to this person together
so as the WHOLE truth of it can be established .
I dont trust ANY MAN , any man , not even my own flesh my friend .
SO when the mainstream news came pumping out whatever it sold
GUESS what i did . I went and watched the entire speech of said person .
Just like i do if fox news says something and shows a clip .
JUST LIKE I DO if reddit or anyone says something .
THIS homie , this gringo , this flea of a dog , DOES IT OWN research .
THEY ALL clip things . they all show short clips of something someone says .
BUT do they all simply twist it to fit a narrative .
THIS gringo does its own research . PS , i sure as hell wont be voting for TRUMP
but if it makes you feel better I had rather die ten thousand of the worst deaths than to vote for biden .
YOU MIGHT want to start asking me some questions .
WHY is it do you suppose i wont vote for trump . AND you also need to start examing things
not through the source that supports the one you want in , BUT the truth itself .
All SIDES of media will show clips , certain parts of what a person says
What YA NEED TO DO , is investigate the entire message for YOU .
AND MORE than that , GET IN THE BIBLE . You see when i told you i trust not in man , I MEANT IT .
MAN cannot be trusted , man cannot be hoped in , GOD CAN . BIBLE TIME my near and dear friend .
YOU CANT TRUST IN GOD and WHAT HE INSPIRED . i promise IT REALLY IS THE TRUTH .
what we cannot do is trust in men . TIME for the true and holy and pure examination
of our own selves . BUT to truly examine oneself , to see , I say OPEN BIBLE
and see if you walk according TO THEM WORDS , or do we walk rather according to what men
tell us those words mean . THAT IS THE CORE OF IT RIGHT THERE .
 
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If you don't vote for Donald, you're helping the progressives. Don't do that. Much of the negativity you hear about Donald isn't true.
IF i dont vote for Donald , ye say , i am helping the progressives .
What if i told you a story my friend .
What if i told you the number one easiest way to decieve any group , whether liberal , conservative
or anyone was YOU INFILTRATE . you come from within . NOW this means anyone including CHURCHES .
YOU COME IN as though you are of them , you speak as they do
you talk as though you are against the things they are against and for the things they are for
and yet the whole time you are leading them into the very snare the very thing
YA SEEM to be so against .
TELL ME , DO YOU THINK this does not occur . NOW for a second take the trump glasses off .
DO YOU THINK this is something new .
WHAT IS the easiest way to DECIEVE . well i can tell ya its not appearing from the outside
as though you the enemy and barking all day against their policies and beliefs .
NO SIR .
YE gotta BEFRIEND THEM . COME IN as though you are of them and for them and desire what is best for them .
NOW satan sure as heck knows that . Look what he did to eve .
The most dangerous enemy is not the one that comes with the assualt , ITS THE ONE WHO COMES FROM WITHIN
the one who OPENS THE DOORS of said village , said kingdom , said heart .
And convinces said persons , HE IS FOR THEM as the opens the door to the wolves pardner .
The most magnificent and most talented deciever of all IS satan , and i do suggest we read some bible
TO SEE HOW HE and his men DECIEVED and even betray .
I know a man who learned well in jesuit school
And i know full well pope franics himself is a jesuit .
But be that as it may .
LETS examine the actions of said person .
WHO YOU THINK is behind the religoius tolerance act , the abraham accords act .
IF YOU SAID TRUMP , cause he sure do support it
YOU would not Have said enough . THE MAIN ONES
and very main ones who are behind the abraham peace accords and religious tolerance act .
ARE Not whom most think . for more info on that
LOOK to the most absolute progressive liberal agenda ever seen and its popes and vatican .
the religoius common ground crap so many of even the evangelical realm now buy into .
WHICH came in strong through rick warren , nar and others , ITS THE MOST LIBERAL elites WHO SOLD IT .
WE BEEN COMPROMISED , INFILTRATED and even OVERCOME by that agenda .
SO , KNOW THIS AND KNOW IT WELL , LEARN IT WELL and EVEN BELIEVE IT , I WONT VOTE FOR TRUMP
if ya paid me , AND I SURE as heck wont vote for biden even at the threat of a firing squad .
BUT HERE is whom and IN WHOM I WILL TRUST . THE BIBLICAL GOD and HIS CHRIST .
I am truly seen and my kind are seen as the absolute most dangerous camp alive and known to man .
CAUSE WE DONT CONFORM homie , WE EXPOSE .
 

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I think he picked a vice-president who sees things as he does.
AND man you are spot on right BOUT THAT .
i also investigated his pick . By golly miss molly they may as well
work for the most liberal agenda , progressive join the religoins as one agenda
EVER SEEN . WE GETTING A SMOKESCREEN pard .
I dont vote for any who works for the agenda of the progressive liberal camp .
AND ITS WHY I WONT VOTE FOR TRUMP and HIS COMPANION .
WE been duped pard .
UNTIL folks realize that above all things the TRUE AGENDA is
to merge the peoples to find a common ground , to come together
to merge the religoins as one under a fat lie . FOLKS aint gonna make it .
HEY bob . IT really is TIME to investigate things for our own selves .
 

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Lots of blood.
Oh there is about to be a lot of blood indeed my friend .
many men like me gonna bleed for JESUS as the common ground goal merged folks
MERGE as one and come against those who did not conform .
But dont you dare pick up a kleenex to weep for me .
YOU WEEP for the DECIEVED , cause the dry tree gonna be burnt clean up out of existance
on the day of the LORD . and BOB , I NEVER WANTED ONE SOUL To perish , NOR DID GOD
but man wont listen . It really is BIBLE TIME my friends .
 
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Agree.

True…man can kill man, including killing himself…

True…man can die, per an accident, per a disease, per old age.

Fact is; ALL men SHALL Die, by whatever cause.

Fact is; GOD KNOWS (long before man does), When and How ALL men shall die.

Fact is; in the Pennsylvania Trump rally, one man had the Means, Opportunity, Intent to Murder Trump, and in Fact Kill a man and injured three people.
That man was the CAUSE of an other Death, and Injury to three other…
AND…another man CAUSE that mans death.


God Bless you.

Glory to God,
Taken
First line TRUE . man can kill , including himself .
second line true . man can die , per an accident , disease , old age
Line three , NOT TRUE . because a generation exists that shall not sleep
but shall be changed . You see right at the end there are some
who were never gonna die the earthly death , rather GOD gonna rip the SKY and the dead in CHRIST will rise
and they who are still here WILL instantly be changed and fly HOME . AND my goodness i do mean HOME .
to be forever with the LORD .
Four line , TRUE . GOD knows , long before man , for most know not the hour of their death , WHEN and HOW one shall die .
Fact is , TRUMPS TIME was not up .
BUT dont think cause its not up that automatically means GOD IS FOR HIS AGENDA .
I Seen muslims who escaped a narrow death , PRAISE their FALSE GOD , yah i said FALSE GOD , report me if you want but its fALSE
praise their god , give credit and glory to their god for their life having been saved by a miracle .
They god didnt save them . they god is false . HOWEVER GOD still is in control of whether they live or die .
Perhaps now you might better understand why this man be so darn hated by the liberal camp
and sadly the conservative camp too . BIBLE TIME folks .
 
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