Are you sending your neighbors to Hell?

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Jack

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The more adept among them are more difficult to spot.
The Word of God always reveals them.
I don’t disagree with most English Bibles.
Not sure what your point is. Call it Hell, gehenna, hades, it's still "forever and ever" in the fire.
The fire burns until there is nothing left to consume. It’s the second death, not the second life.
Then how can they be tormented day and night "forever and ever"?
See Sodom and Gomorrah.
What about it?
 

Matthias

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The Word of God always reveals them.

Eventually, but people who follow the deceivers aren’t doing their homework.

Not sure what your point is.

I’ve known that for hours, but it hasn’t prevented you from rejecting it.

Call it Hell, gehenna, hades, it's still "forever and ever" in the fire.

Gehenna and hades aren’t synonyms; they aren’t the same place.

Then how can they be tormented day and night "forever and ever"?

I’ve advised you to look into it using independent sources. You rejected my advice. If you aren’t willing to listen to them, why would I think that you’re willing to listen to me?

Do you not consider me to be a false preacher; a deceiver?

What about it?

Revisit it and you will either learn or remember. The same language is used.
 

Matthias

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Are you denying people will be "tormented day and night forever"?

Every English Bible I've read clearly teaches BILLIONS of humans will burn "forever and ever".

All of the pieces must fit together. I’m using nothing but scripture and - since you self-identify as trinitarian - trinitarian sources to persuade you that they do.

God is love (1John 4:8). There is nothing loving about God inflicting never ending torment on the wicked. This is also pointed out by trinitarian thologians and clergy.

Will you continue to assert that they are deceivers?

Do you know what conditional immortality is?
 

Matthias

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You can bet they will be REALLY nasty!

There is no such thing as eternal worms.

Just as with fire, the worms consume until there is nothing left for them to consume.

Nothing will stop the fire and the worms from consuming the wicked.

When there is nothing remaining for them to consume, that will be the end of the fire and the worms.

It is the effect of their work that lasts forever.
 

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All of the pieces must fit together. I’m using nothing but scripture and - since you self-identify as trinitarian - trinitarian sources to persuade you that they do.

God is love (1John 4:8). There is nothing loving about God inflicting never ending torment on the wicked. This is also pointed out by trinitarian thologians and clergy.

Will you continue to assert that they are deceivers?

Do you know what conditional immortality is?
Your opinions do not overrule Jesus. He clearly warned us of the EVERLASTING fire!
 

Jack

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There is no such thing as eternal worms.
How do you know?
Just as with fire, the worms consume until there is nothing left for them to consume.
Your opinion!
Nothing will stop the fire and the worms from consuming the wicked.
When they are in Hell TRILLIONS of years they will certainly wish they don't exist!
When there is nothing remaining for them to consume, that will be the end of the fire and the worms.

It is the effect of their work that lasts forever.
Only your opinions! Have you read the Bible preacher? I'll stick with Jesus.

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
 

Matthias

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How do you know?

Worms are never promised immortality in scripture.


Your opinion!

How fire and worms work is well known.

When they are in Hell TRILLIONS of years they will certainly wish they don't exist!

Your opinion, based on a belief in a deity who will do what no loving person would.

Only your opinions!

See the independent trinitarian I recommended dor hour consideration.

Have you read the Bible preacher?

From the man who asks Christians if they believe Jesus hallucinated. Enough said.

I'll stick with Jesus.

I’m certain that you think so.

Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

Did you revisit Sodom and Gomorrah?
 

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Worms are never promised immortality in scripture.
How fire and worms work is well known.
You've never seen ETERNAL fire and worms. I hope you don't.
Your opinion, based on a belief in a deity who will do what no loving person would.
The Bible is not my opinion.
See the independent trinitarian I recommended dor hour consideration.
I recommend you read the Bible. It says you're wrong.
From the man who asks Christians if they believe Jesus hallucinated. Enough said.
Have you read the Bible preacher? Doesn't sound like it.
I’m certain that you think so.
Well yeah, He warned us of the EVERLASTING fire several times.
Did you revisit Sodom and Gomorrah?
Did you read the Bible lately?
 

Jack

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No one’s opinions overrule Jesus.
So stick with Scripture not your opinions.
And you think that means he’s going to have the wicked consciously tormented for eternity.
Of course, Jesus said so.

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER!
That’s sadistic - and neither Yahweh nor Jesus are sadists.
Yahweh is Jesus. And He drowned all on Earth but 8, "making them an example"!

Read the Bible preacher.
 

Matthias

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You've never seen ETERNAL fire and worms.

No one has, nor ever will. Fire and worms consume; they don’t inflict conscious torment for eternity. The wiser among you recognize and acknowledge that fact.


I hope you don't.

I won’t, you won’t, no one will.

The Bible is not my opinion.

Your interpretation of the Bible is.

I recommend you read the Bible.

You’re speaking foolishly.

It says you're wrong.

It says that the wicked will be reduced to smoke and ashes.

Have you read the Bible preacher?

A wee bit more reasonable but still foolish.


Doesn't sound like it.

Your eyes are shut, your ears are closed and your mouth is loud.

Well yeah, He warned us of the EVERLASTING fire several times.

You have a sadistic understanding of what love is.

Did you read the Bible lately?

You just can’t help yourself.
 

Matthias

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So stick with Scripture not your opinions.

I’m addressing your misunderstanding of scripture with scripture and the better understanding of your fellow trinitarians.

You won’t listen to me and the abuse you heap on me you heap on the trinitarians whom I directed your attention to.

Of course, Jesus said so.

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER!

Yahweh is Jesus. And He drowned all on Earth but 8, "making them an example"!

Read the Bible preacher.

Yahweh is the God and Father of Jesus.
 
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It isn’t God, nor is it his Son, the Messiah, who want man treated sadistically; it’s the devil.
 

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No one has, nor ever will. Fire and worms consume; they don’t inflict conscious torment for eternity. The wiser among you recognize and acknowledge that fact.
Another opinion.
I won’t, you won’t, no one will.
I sure hope you don't, preacher.
Your interpretation of the Bible is.
I don't have any. I take the Bible literally. Jesus is always right! He's God the Creator!
You’re speaking foolishly.
Recommending the Bible is foolish? No surprise.
It says that the wicked will be reduced to smoke and ashes.
No Scripture? I have plenty!

Matthew 25:41-46
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."
A wee bit more reasonable but still foolish.
Your eyes are shut, your ears are closed and your mouth is loud.
Yes my eyes and ears reject your opinions. And now come the personal insults because Scripture says you're WRONG!
You have a sadistic understanding of what love is.
You're calling Jesus sadistic? Pity you on Judgment Day!

Matthew 25:41-46

41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into everlasting life."
You just can’t help yourself.
Doesn't sound like you ever read the Bible.
 

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Another opinion.

I sure hope you don't, preacher.

I don't have any. I take the Bible literally. Jesus is always right! He's God the Creator!

Recommending the Bible is foolish? No surprise.

No Scripture? I have plenty!

Matthew 25:41-46
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

Yes my eyes and ears reject your opinions. And now come the personal insults because Scripture says you're WRONG!

You're calling Jesus sadistic? Pity you on Judgment Day!

Matthew 25:41-46

41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:

46 And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into everlasting life."

Doesn't sound like you ever read the Bible.

I’m redirecting your abuse to the trinitarians who write against your understanding.
 

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I’m addressing your misunderstanding of scripture with scripture and the better understanding of your fellow trinitarians.
Then why are you AVOIDING Scripture?
You won’t listen to me and the abuse you heap on me you heap on the trinitarians whom I directed your attention to.
Of course not. I believe Jesus.
Yahweh is the God and Father of Jesus.
John 20 Thomas said to Jesus, "My Lord and my GOD"!

Jesus is my God too!