HUH!!!
And that's exactly why Christians try to pull them from the fire, before they are there. Don't you try?
Are you sending your neighbors to Hell?
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The judgement occurs after Jesus returns.
No one can be pulled from someplace where they aren’t.
Rather than “pull them out,” I see “hold them back” in scripture (Proverbs 24:11-12).
Yeah, and Jesus said BILLIONS are heading for Hell fire.
So you don't try?
Jesus didn’t specify how many would be destroyed in the lake of fire.
I try to hold them back, not pull them out.
You sound quite JW. Jesus said Hell is EVERLASTING!
Jude 1:22-23
22 And on some have compassion, making a distinction;
23 but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire,
I’m not a JW and the second death is everlasting.
Jude knew that they weren’t literally already cast into the fire of Gehenna. No one is cast into the fire until after they are resurrected and judged - and that doesn’t happen until after Jesus returns.
So what is Jude saying?
”Rescue any who need to be rescued, as you would rescue someone from a fire.”
(CEV)
Death NEVER means cease to exist in the NT!
Doesn't say Gehenna. Jesus said Hell fire!
And they will be tormented day and night FOREVER! Jesus said so.
I don’t agree with your assertion. Death never means life in the NT.
The Greek word is gehenna, which is distinct from the Greek word hades.
Everyone goes to hades; only the wicked are cast into gehenna - after they are judged.
If we get the first part right then the second part will become clear.
Your proof?
"They will be tormented day and night FOREVER"!
Why did Jesus call it Hell Fire?
So get it right.
The dead are dead, not alive.
See above.
Gehenna is the location outside of Jerusalem where the trash was reduced to ashes by burning in ancient times. That is the picture Jesus wants his hearers to have in mind when he discusses the future that awaits the wicked.
That does nothing to advance the conversation.
“I’ve got it right. No, you’ve got it wrong. You get it right. No, You’ve ….”
Let’s not treat one another that way.
Oh yes they are!
Your opinion noted and rejected. Hell fire is EVERLASTING! Jesus said so.
Hell will be FILLED with people who don't believe in Hell!
What is Gehenna? | GotQuestions.org
What is Gehenna? What is the origin of the word Gehenna? How did Gehenna come to be used to refer to hell?
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Offered for the benefit of readers who are interested in the background of gehenna.
Jesus explained it quite clearly. "They will be tormented day and night FOREVER".What is Gehenna? | GotQuestions.org
What is Gehenna? What is the origin of the word Gehenna? How did Gehenna come to be used to refer to hell?www.gotquestions.org
Offered for the benefit of readers who are interested in the background of gehenna.
All that is left to do now is to square that with what we learned from the Christian source I quoted concerning gehenna.
Have you read Edward Fudge?
Edward Fudge Ministries
Joyously drawing water from the springs of salvation Isaiah 12:2-3
No, but I've read the Bible many times.All that is left to do now is to square that with what we learned from the Christian source I quoted concerning gehenna.
Have you read Edward Fudge?
Edward Fudge Ministries
Joyously drawing water from the springs of salvation Isaiah 12:2-3edwardfudge.com
Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
He wrote an excellent book titled The Fire That Consumes. I recommend it to all and sundry.
No doubt. So, I would venture, has Edward Fudge.
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