Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
@Jane_Doe22 ......You said...
“While other folks may be well-intended, when this isn't your faith, they are inventively going to get a lot wrong. Some other folks get it super super wrong.”
And then you say this about us.....LOL.
LDS members don’t like JW’s because they have no evidence in scripture to back up their beliefs.....you know that, and that is why you resort to denigrating us...it means you don’t have to defend your beliefs and attempt to deflect attention away from that fact......what your church teaches does not resemble Bible’s teachings in any way.
Show us in scripture that what your church teaches is biblically sound....it’s “before birth and after death” scenario?...or the fact that Jesus made a trip to the Americas to give them the gospel....where is that written and where will I find any evidence for the existence of these people in archeology or history? They are a figment of one man’s imagination....and a whole bunch of people swallowed his story.....one can only ask why when there was no actual proof that anything he said was true?
JW’s do not deny the divinity of Christ as the Scriptures clearly state that he is divine and always has been....it just does not state that he shares deity with his Father......who is also his God. (Rev 3:12)
We believe that he is a created being as he himself said. (Rev 3:14)
He is NOT just “an angel” but a unique “son of God”, which is what he called himself. (John 10:31-36)
God’s “firstborn”....one of many “sons of God”. (Col 1:15)
LDS believers do not want to cross swords with anyone because they want to present themselves as something they are not....so they will tell you that your faith is fine and can co-exist with theirs.....despite the fact that you basically hold little in common with them. If it doesn’t matter then why are you a separate denomination at all?
JW’s know that there is one truth that must be upheld by all, (1 Cor 1:10) otherwise there is conflict and division, which we see in Christendom, who may appear to want ecumenism to dominate the world, but bringing all “Christians” together as one, is impossible......you cannot have true unity if it is all show on top but underneath is a seething mess of conflicting views. Does God speak with a forked tongue? I believe it is the other fellow who has that capacity.
You portray us as anti-family when you will not find closer families than ours. The fact that we excommunicate those who do not uphold the truth of the Bible, or who commit deliberate sin but refuse to admit it, blaming others for the fallout or trying to subvert the faith of others if they are disciplined. (Heb 12:7-11)
We do not “shun ex-members” unless they are trouble makers, trying to cause division among our brotherhood.....those who commit deliberate sin are given loving counsel and correction, but if they refuse to repent after many attempts to help them, they are excommunicated as the Bible clearly shows that they should be.....the door is always open for their return like the prodigal son. But the Father did nothing until the son came home contrite and humble...then the Father ran to meet his son with open arms.
1 Cor 5:9-13....
“ I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.” (NKJV)
If the churches did this, how many would be left to supply the pastor with his money? Isn’t this the reason why the mega churches are doing so well? Who is going to judge those “inside” when the judges are themselves found to be flawed characters? They all get caught up in the emotion of it all.....knowledge takes a back seat to entertainment....and the power of wealth steals away their conscience.
You are “very helpful” to at least someone....even if it is to one of the worst trolls here......if it makes you feel better to throw others under the bus by passing on false information yourself, then you have to live with that.
“While other folks may be well-intended, when this isn't your faith, they are inventively going to get a lot wrong. Some other folks get it super super wrong.”
And then you say this about us.....LOL.
Is this the truth? Or only “some folks” like yourself “getting it all wrong”?
LDS members don’t like JW’s because they have no evidence in scripture to back up their beliefs.....you know that, and that is why you resort to denigrating us...it means you don’t have to defend your beliefs and attempt to deflect attention away from that fact......what your church teaches does not resemble Bible’s teachings in any way.
Show us in scripture that what your church teaches is biblically sound....it’s “before birth and after death” scenario?...or the fact that Jesus made a trip to the Americas to give them the gospel....where is that written and where will I find any evidence for the existence of these people in archeology or history? They are a figment of one man’s imagination....and a whole bunch of people swallowed his story.....one can only ask why when there was no actual proof that anything he said was true?
JW’s do not deny the divinity of Christ as the Scriptures clearly state that he is divine and always has been....it just does not state that he shares deity with his Father......who is also his God. (Rev 3:12)
We believe that he is a created being as he himself said. (Rev 3:14)
He is NOT just “an angel” but a unique “son of God”, which is what he called himself. (John 10:31-36)
God’s “firstborn”....one of many “sons of God”. (Col 1:15)
LDS believers do not want to cross swords with anyone because they want to present themselves as something they are not....so they will tell you that your faith is fine and can co-exist with theirs.....despite the fact that you basically hold little in common with them. If it doesn’t matter then why are you a separate denomination at all?
JW’s know that there is one truth that must be upheld by all, (1 Cor 1:10) otherwise there is conflict and division, which we see in Christendom, who may appear to want ecumenism to dominate the world, but bringing all “Christians” together as one, is impossible......you cannot have true unity if it is all show on top but underneath is a seething mess of conflicting views. Does God speak with a forked tongue? I believe it is the other fellow who has that capacity.
You portray us as anti-family when you will not find closer families than ours. The fact that we excommunicate those who do not uphold the truth of the Bible, or who commit deliberate sin but refuse to admit it, blaming others for the fallout or trying to subvert the faith of others if they are disciplined. (Heb 12:7-11)
We do not “shun ex-members” unless they are trouble makers, trying to cause division among our brotherhood.....those who commit deliberate sin are given loving counsel and correction, but if they refuse to repent after many attempts to help them, they are excommunicated as the Bible clearly shows that they should be.....the door is always open for their return like the prodigal son. But the Father did nothing until the son came home contrite and humble...then the Father ran to meet his son with open arms.
1 Cor 5:9-13....
“ I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people. Yet I certainly did not mean with the sexually immoral people of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I have written to you not to keep company with anyone named a brother, who is sexually immoral, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner—not even to eat with such a person. For what have I to do with judging those also who are outside? Do you not judge those who are inside? But those who are outside God judges. Therefore “put away from yourselves the evil person.” (NKJV)
If the churches did this, how many would be left to supply the pastor with his money? Isn’t this the reason why the mega churches are doing so well? Who is going to judge those “inside” when the judges are themselves found to be flawed characters? They all get caught up in the emotion of it all.....knowledge takes a back seat to entertainment....and the power of wealth steals away their conscience.
Are you feeding the trolls now....LOLJane_Doe22 said:
You are “very helpful” to at least someone....even if it is to one of the worst trolls here......if it makes you feel better to throw others under the bus by passing on false information yourself, then you have to live with that.
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