Apparitions of the Virgin Mary

[Grailhunter]

Perhaps Mary was supernaturally protected from inheriting original sin. Or is it your contention that God put his holy son into an unholy womb?

I am surprised that Protestants key on this, Augustine, was the author of the doctrine of original sin. He was a Catholic theologian, philosopher, and the bishop of Hippo Regius in Numidia, Roman North Africa. The man was near to insane. Babies are not born with sin.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

I am surprised that Protestants key on this, Augustine, was the author of the doctrine of original sin. He was a Catholic theologian, philosopher, and the bishop of Hippo Regius in Numidia, Roman North Africa. The man was near to insane. Babies are not born with sin.

Okay, so don't explain what Paul said--"as in Adam all die."

Go ahead and talk around the woman!

 

[K9Buck]

Your comments are getting more bizarre by the minute! I have stood up for the unborn probably more than anyone on this forum, and I've gotten flack for it from other Christians!

What's "bizarre" is that you apparently believe that a sinner can get just as good spiritual advice from a pagan than a Christian priest.

 

[kcnalp]

Your comments are getting more bizarre by the minute! I have stood up for the unborn probably more than anyone on this forum, and I've gotten flack for it from other Christians!

I challenge that. lol

 

[Prayer Warrior]

What's "bizarre" is that you apparently believe that a sinner can get just as good spiritual advice from a pagan than a Christian priest.

Who said anything about pagans??? I'm talking about Christians! Have you NEVER received wise advice from a Christian who is not a priest or pastor...?

 

[Prayer Warrior]

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[K9Buck]

I am surprised that Protestants key on this, Augustine, was the author of the doctrine of original sin. He was a Catholic theologian, philosopher, and the bishop of Hippo Regius in Numidia, Roman North Africa. The man was near to insane. Babies are not born with sin.

Protestants apparently believe that Mary was on the same level as a crack whore from the ghetto. So be it. At least they believe she exists, unlike atheists.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Protestants apparently believe that Mary was on the same level as a crack whore from the ghetto. So be it. At least they believe she exists, unlike atheists.

Just when I thought your comments couldn't get more bizarre, you come up with the most stupid comments I have ever seen on CB!

This is a lie from hell. You need to stop speaking lies!

 

[K9Buck]

Just when i thought your comments couldn't get more bizarre, you come up with the most stupid comments I have ever seen on CB!

This is a lie from hell. You need to stop speaking lies!

God bless you.

 

[Grailhunter]

Show me where God says in His written Word that she is divine and I will believe it.

That is the point of post 46.
The Bible is not going to talk about her divinity....it does not record her death either.
Staying inside the scriptures, there is really not much to discuss about Mary.
There are thousands of divine events that happened after the biblical era. But that is not something that people that stay with the Bible should be concerned about. For them Christianity went on pause until the Protestants.
And that is OK its just a matter of believing in the pause. Don't worry about Mary.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Protestants apparently believe that Mary was on the same level as a crack whore from the ghetto. So be it. At least they believe she exists, unlike atheists.

This is what I said about Mary:

She was blessed among women. I admire her greatly, but i don't believe that she was without sin or divine.

 

[K9Buck]

That is the point of post 46.
The Bible is not going to talk about her divinity....it does not record her death either.
Staying inside the scriptures, there is really not much to discuss about Mary.
There are thousands of divine events that happened after the biblical era. But that is not something that people that stay with the Bible should be concerned about. For them Christianity went on pause until the Protestants.
And that is OK its just a matter of believing in the pause. Don't worry about Mary.

For protestants, all of God's works ended with the bible. If it's not in the bible, then it wasn't inspired by God. And if God is no longer active in our lives, then why to protestants continue to pray to him? They contradict themselves and then get hateful and abusive when they're called out for it.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

For protestants, all of God's works ended with the bible. If it's not in the bible, then it wasn't inspired by God. And if God is no longer active in our lives, then why to protestants continue to pray to him? They contradict themselves and then get hateful and abusive when they're called out for it.

More lies!

Many on this forum believe that God still speaks to us today! This is evident by the prophecies that are posted. Many of us talk about what God is showing us and doing in our lives.

 

[Grailhunter]

For protestants, all of God's works ended with the bible. If it's not in the bible, then it wasn't inspired by God. And if God is no longer active in our lives, then why to protestants continue to pray to him? They contradict themselves and then get hateful and abusive when they're called out for it.

Again I am going to say their belief system saves.
The issue is when they climb the fence and start commenting on things that by their own belief system, they are not suppose to believe in. Effectively they could say that anything that happens after the biblical era and then Martin Luther was demonic. For them, after 1500 years, somebody finally got it right.
If they stick with, I am going back to what the Bible says, that works! The Bible saves. Good enough.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

Again I am going to say their belief system saves.

Yes, the truth of the Bible saves, it sanctifies, it transforms! It divides between soul and spirit! It conquers the devil's lies! It comforts and gives peace! It is a lamp unto our feet and a light unto our path!

 

[CharismaticLady]

Does the bible state that she was a sinner?

Does it have to specifically? Were her parents? Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Only through Christ's Spirit are we freed from sin, and go from sinner to child of God. John 8:34-36

 

[K9Buck]

Does it have to specifically? Were her parents? Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Only through Christ's Spirit are we freed from sin, and go from sinner to child of God. John 8:34-36

That's a fair point. Is it possible that Mary was the single exception? Or are we to take it literally that everyone, including Mary, sinned? It's disappointing to me to see other Christians condemn Mary as a "sinner" when it's not absolutely clear that she was.

 

[Prayer Warrior]

That's a fair point. Is it possible that Mary was the single exception? Or are we to take it literally that everyone, including Mary, sinned? It's disappointing to me to see other Christians condemn Mary as a "sinner" when it's not absolutely clear that she was.

Saying that someone is a sinner is not condemning them. It is those who refuse to believe in Jesus Christ that are condemned (according to John 3:18). I have no doubt that Mary believed and is in heaven even though she was a sinner.

 

[K9Buck]

If Mary was a sinner by virtue of being born, would that same rule apply to Jesus?

 

[Prayer Warrior]

If Mary was a sinner by virtue of being born, would that same rule apply to Jesus?

No, like i explained up there somewhere^^^ Jesus was not born of man's (Adam's) seed; therefore, He was not born with original sin. Mary had a human father; Jesus didn't.