American Rights

[Frank Lee]

I had two thug policemen try to goad me into assaulting them. I was so upset I was shaking. They were big guys with hands on their slappers. They gave me a bogus ticket and told me to do something if I didn't like it. I escaped a beating by just enduring their bullying.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Your links are from extremely liberal sites. Just as bad as MSNBC

Hitler was a socialist. He was love by the German people.

I've seen old films of him that property are no longer available. Women

who managed to touch him fell down looking like they were having orgasms.

I see where the world is heading. I am ready for the rapture but will keep working until then.

I used to be an NRA instructor in five disciplines. I was NAM.

As Mayor (City of over 34,000 people in the county of over 100,000 near a city of millions) I received some of the most outrageous accusations against our police that were totally false.

If it was not for the such shockingly harsh years before Hitler came to power Hitler would not of been loved like he was by the German people.
I believe the whole thing was set up by a group of the most wealthy people on earth, setting in motion the wheels that set Hitler up and all, not to mention the same is all a setup with what we in the West have been fed for years, they have set satanic people up in positions of power in churches, governments, media and schools for years to undermine Christianity and to in power Socialism. My grand dad and a lot of old people pointed this out all the time.

As having a Jewish sir name I listened to all the old people intently from a young age what they were saying back in the 1960's and 70's and so on about the war etc, that's what the old ones talked about back in the days, they would go on and on about such, they would say history repeats and all.
We had a head of the RSL Bruce Ruxton pointing out history facts at times and half the Australian people hated him and dismissed everything that he said and the other half loved him, he was sticking up for all the people who put there life on the line in going to war to safe guard our democracy and freedoms and all the socialist bludgers no hopers and low life spongers hated Bruce and always tried to make him out as just some fool to be totally dismissed. and by who ? not the people in the defence force but gutless no hopers and sponges mainly who had the hide and even spat on them, what filthy lowlife grub does that to one who put his life on the line to protect Liberty.

I came against school teachers who were Socialist back in my schooldays and I fired up against them as a kid, boy they did not like that and the ranting that they gave back to me, like yelling at me the we are going to become socialist weather you like it or not. the Socialist is a very one eyed monster that is so short sighted and narrow minded and blighted with ignorance, they peddle that there faith in Communism will work and I understand where they are coming from, but the reality is that they do not want to see the reality fact is that they are under great delusions, it's a utopia fantasy land that will never work but only create massive misery for all even the top murdering dogs who control it all, everyone who has be in charge of such things in history was a total bastard, they say that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts totally. such people are insane ! I have seen many video of the people who's job it was to interrogate people in Russia and the fact is that them people were so glad when communism fell, they said it was hell, they had to be total bastards, because if they got something wrong the rep to them were immense as they were fully interrogated and there family's and so on were under the spot light well. not to mention that you are guilty until proven innocent and that's a fact, that many don't comprehend the gravity of.
People just do not know the facts of the madness of Socialism that it brings about, it's living hell.
When the Socialist dominate the USA totally and they will in the future, all them little darlings who were deceived will find out that their dream world has just begun to fall, they will reap what they have sown = Hellfire ! evil can not sustain it's self.
Sure there are evils in parliament democracy but decay comes about because of foolish ignorant people will reap what they sow.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

I had two thug policemen try to goad me into assaulting them. I was so upset I was shaking. They were big guys with hands on their slappers. They gave me a bogus ticket and told me to do something if I didn't like it. I escaped a beating by just enduring their bullying.

I had two cops who were going to try have a go at me in a real bad area I was working in 1995, I just took a defence stance as to they were making a move in going to attack and pointed out who I was and they backed straight down directly and walked off, just like that got in there car and drove off looking back at me like two boys that just about got into something that they did not want to get into, not to mention I was relived as well.
I know they were use to dealing with lowlife grubs so much, that they have to have a attitude like they did because it's dregs that they are dealing with 24/7 day in day out and it just gets to them as a routine.
I totally understand the crap that they have to put up with.

 

[Soverign Grace]

Mayflower,
The only way to understand this is by facing the fact that many Americans have been betraying America for decades. Both the issues you mentioned have been subjected to so-called Liberalism or Progressivism, which are simply offshoots of Socialism and Communism.

After the Iron Curtain came into existence, the primary goal of the Soviet Union was to subvert America, subvert democracy, subvert the Constitution, and subvert all religious and moral values totally. Atheistic Communism was exactly that. And the Cold War was indeed a reality. But since the USSR could not conquer the USA militarily, it chose a different form of warfare -- subversion from within. And believe it or not, but there were many, many Americans who chose to betray their country for one reason or another, and work for the Soviets from within (just like in the UK).

Today, the majority of the universities and colleges have been taken captive by Communism and Radical Socialism, and you have seen the results in this past election. A clueless radical Socialist (Ocasia-Cortez) was actually elected to Congress. At the same time Fascism and Communism are simply two sides of the same coin. So now we have the Antifa thugs (paid for by George Soros) roaming the streets and threatening life and limb. They should have been deemed as domestic terrorists by Mr. Trump, and he failed to do anything about this anarchy.

How does all this tie in with the Second Amendment and same-sex marriage promotion?

The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms and was adopted on December 15, 1791 as part of the Bill of Rights.

Why was this necessary? It was necessary to support the natural rights of self-defense and resistance to oppression, and the civic duty to act in concert in defense of the state.

But a Communist or Socialist government is generally Totalitarian, which means that it does not want its citizen to be able to resist oppression or stand up against tyrants. The Democrats in America today are Anarchists and Socialists, so that if they can compel the citizens to give up their guns and bar the sale of guns to ordinary people, they can control the citizenry and impose their form of oppressive government (or their use of thugs to silence opposition). That is why the Left-Liberals talk about *gun control* again and again. The subliminal message is *people control without any recourse*.

Coming to same-sex or homosexual marriages. Communists strongly believe that if they can destroy the homes and marriages of people, they can totally control them. Same-sex marriages are in fact an attack on normal marriages and homes.

But even though the homosexual population of any Western country is probably less than 1%, homosexuals became extremely vocal about their so-called *rights* (which are not within the Constitution). And ALL WESTERN POLITICIANS succumbed to the demands of homosexuals, instead of standing up and opposing this nonsense. Once again, total betrayal by both politicians and judges has created a so-called imaginary *right* where none exists. Just like the *right* to have an abortion.

This is very well-put. It's frightening to know that Ocasio is running anything - who would vote for her? One of my children has a professor who told the class that "after they worked through the book she is having them read, if they still believe in God then they're stupid." It was shocking that a professor would thrust her views upon a class of impressionable young people. Those students are going to want to pass her class or ingratiate themselves to her, so what do you think they're going to do?

Hitler took all the guns from the people. The government today has become oppressive though, and even though many have their guns, they're not going to use them - we're too socialized. We don't act when our government became oppressive, and if the Democrats enact a law to surrender guns then people will comply. We're not revolutionists like they were years ago when the country was young. Our rights have been eroded bit by bit. Look at how Obama weaponized the IRS against conservatives. I read that there are so many laws on the books that Americans likely break at least several a day. I talked to a woman who had her house taken out from under her to pay her husband's medical bills. She said: "I didn't think they were allowed to do that." How can they?

I don't have a good feeling about the way the country is going. I think America's best days are gone and we're in decline. Dennis Prager said that students aren't taught, they're indoctrinated. I think it's too far gone and I pray every day that God will act and end this world. I talked to this guy who left the country, and I read a lot of techs in Silicon Valley are preparing for a collapse. Of course they have the money to buy land in New Zealand and to build fallout shelters.

 

[Soverign Grace]

And what about cops killed just because they were cops cops sitting in their patrol cars, trying to help private citizens, etc..

When you talk about abuse you have to talk about all of it. Don't be selective.

Sure there are bad cops, there are bad blacks, there are bad whites, there are bad Asians.

My point is you are never going to fix humanity. There will always be bad people.

We have a severe illegal problem coming across the border.

I wasn't being selective - I was showing the side of the police that I know is there and the side that other unfortunate souls found is there. As Serpico said, we've been indoctrinated to think that police are the good guys, the heroes. My husband talked to someone who had caught police breaking the law, and he said no citizens would convict them. It's the public's perception that they're all the good guys, and when you find out otherwise, it is very painful and shocking. I read that the psychological damage is worse when one is victimized by police rather than a common criminal because we're not expecting it.

There are police shot just because they're police and that's wrong. The pain of the family that is left has to be very hard, knowing someone lost their life because of their job. But do you think that cops abusing citizens might be behind the shootings? That black man told me cops did worse to him and his friends than to Freddie Gray, who had his spine severed. And what's horrid about it is the cops that were shot may be good, decent people, but because their fellow officers are abusing people, they're having this hatred for cops turned on them. Those in positions to do something should stop this culture of abuse of citizens. If you look on the videos, and I know from my ordeal, some of them psychologically (or sinfully) enjoy abusing another and abusing their power. I read people very well, and that cop was enjoying tormenting me. He was psychologically sick. How can anyone continue to abuse an innocent person knowing that they were the one who made the mistake? It engenders and foments the worst human traits, just like The Stanford Prison Experiment.

 

[Soverign Grace]

I'm well aware of the illegal problems at the border and have written to our legislators about securing the border. My brother-in-laws friends son was killed by one - it's bad in our state because of the farms. When my kids friends used to come over, if they walked by the farmers fields the pickers would harass them. I can't understand why more people aren't demanding that the border be closed. Look at the toll that has been taken by the drugs flooding in. 72,000 Americans died last year - where is the uproar? People aren't like they were years ago - everything is wrong and no one does anything.

 

[Soverign Grace]

Armed or not America's rejection of God will fare no better than Israel's. Abortion's mass morder of 61,000,000 souls came from telling God to leave.

America wil fall. Write it down. Our borders are being besieged this very day. The exact same things that beset ancient Israel are now America's table fare.

A, A. Allen's prophecy.

I unfortunately share your views. I don't think America is going to last - I just wish the death wouldn't be so slow. We're living in bad times. One of my family members cares for illegals in the hospital who are bringing TB in - they have patients who don't want to stay in the hospital and walk out back into the public. I'm waiting for a pandemic. They have doctors leaving the hospital - they said they can't afford to care for all these illegals. I learned yesterday the hospital went bankrupt. I went to that same hospital who had me wait for hours to be seen due to illegals getting free healthcare. I was in a bad way and they told me it would be a 5 hour wait. That's when I knew this problem had gotten serious. And all those illegals weren't expected to pay a dime, and even though I wasn't seen and walked out, that hospital has repeatedly demanded payment of a bill. They obviously already got money from our insurance company - for doing nothing - and yet still demanded a pound of my flesh. I told my husband they must have to harass patients who pay to make up for the healthcare they spend on illegals. I'm not against helping someone when they need it, but this system is broken. When you pile too many people onto a float, the float sinks. It's really frightening when you're so bad and yet are turned away. It was the first time I had ever experienced that and I knew then that America was on shaky ground.

I think it's too late - I think people are going to continue to pack into the U.S. until it falls, right in line with the new world order.

 

[Soverign Grace]

I had two cops who were going to try have a go at me in a real bad area I was working in 1995, I just took a defence stance as to they were making a move in going to attack and pointed out who I was and they backed straight down directly and walked off, just like that got in there car and drove off looking back at me like two boys that just about got into something that they did not want to get into, not to mention I was relived as well.
I know they were use to dealing with lowlife grubs so much, that they have to have a attitude like they did because it's dregs that they are dealing with 24/7 day in day out and it just gets to them as a routine.
I totally understand the crap that they have to put up with.

I missed Frank Lee's post - but your experience mirrored a lot of peoples.

They are used to dealing with rough people but some have gotten worse than the low-lives, as they have power to do what they want and courts and judges won't hold them accountable. Even when they know you're innocent they won't let up because they're afraid of bad publicity and a lawsuit. I learned a lot by reading online. John Whitehead said the government is doing worse evil than the criminals they're supposed to be protecting us against. And there is no recourse at all - no one will hold police accountable. If you're beat up or robbed by a criminal, you can turn to police or the courts, but if you're brutalized by police, no one - no one - will step in to help.

 

[Frank Lee]

we had a wonderful friend that was sent to prison because he donated a piece of land to his church and the IRS claimed he was trying to defraud them. This man would not harm or defraud anyone. His name was David. I've seen personally the IRS try to bulldoze me when I was in business. They are a corrupt gang of thugs make no doubt about it.

I could not believe it when he was sentenced to the federal penitentiary at Texarkana Arkansas. His wife and two fine daughters were devastated. He was one of the gentlest souls I've known.

While there a violent prisoner beat David to the extent he spent three months in the prison hospital. When released we went to visit him and his family. He looked like one of the photos you see of a WWII POW or death camp jew. He was very thin, pale and did not look well at all. Within a year David was dead.
Death by IRS and a failed justice system.

Every time I think of him I grow sad. In church his wife would weep every time we saw her. They loved each other very much and David was a faithful family man.

As to America God obviously to any Christian, placed Trump in office. Without God he could never have been elected in the face of the weeping, screaming Clinton supporters. In his infinite mercy God has put off the destruction of America. We still have millions screaming for Trump's removal and worse. The corrupt politicians were elected by multitudes of godless that are just as corrupt.

Politicians smile and use their winning ways to bring evil to pass. Ronald Reagan was the one that introduced "THERAPEUTIC ABORTION" to the state of California. He was also among the first to dip into the government ladle into Social Security funds. Politicians now speak as if the SS monies were a gift from the government rather Than the hard earned deduction from our paychecks.

Though we are told in Romans that the goverment is set by God to be our protector we see it persecuting the citizens and giving aid and comfort to illegal immigrants that kill, steal and do violence.

My daughter has had hardened faced Hispanics follow her around in different stores. Very frightening for a young, single upright woman. I'm pushing her to her her concealed carry permit. I have mine and have seen atremots on my disabled wife as she made her painful way to our car. I certainly pray for protection and believe in it. If assaulted I will defend my family.

We see the same demise of society that happened in ancient Israel and Sodom and Gomorrha. Things are broadcast that would have meant arrest and jail time just forty years ago..

All media networks are corrupt and broadcast lies. Newspapers are a joke and would not know truth if it were a truck that ran them over.

We had our first black president and I would have cheered if he had been upright. Sadly the first black president of America was one of the most corrupt and completely anti common sense men ever to hold the office. While rejecting Christians Obama hosted Muslims time and again saying the Islamic call to prayer was, the most beautiful sound he'd ever heard.

The Bible says if a ruler listens to lies all of his advisors, are wicked.

His post president home in Washington D. C. is 2 blocks from the largest Islamic temple in Washington where the call to Muslim prayer can be heard daily.

How the mighty have fallen. God has given us a brief reprieve from destruction through the election but what shall be afterwards only he knows.

I posted a list in a thread about HEK-293. This is an extract, Human Embryonic Kidney, used by scores of companies in food and drinks. Literal cannibalsm. Take time to review that list in the use if HEK-293, SENOMYX.

We must pray for peace and deliverance. Our children will have to live in whatever culture remains when we are gone.

God Almighty have mercy on this evil wicked nation.

 

[Soverign Grace]

we had a wonderful friend that was sent to prison because he donated a piece of land to his church and the IRS claimed he was trying to defraud them. This man would not harm or defraud anyone. His name was David. I've seen personally the IRS try to bulldoze me when I was in business. They are a corrupt gang of thugs make no doubt about it.

I could not believe it when he was sentenced to the federal penitentiary at Texarkana Arkansas. His wife and two fine daughters were devastated. He was one of the gentlest souls I've known.

While there a violent prisoner beat David to the extent he spent three months in the prison hospital. When released we went to visit him and his family. He looked like one of the photos you see of a WWII POW or death camp jew. He was very thin, pale and did not look well at all. Within a year David was dead.
Death by IRS and a failed justice system.

Every time I think of him I grow sad. In church his wife would weep every time we saw her. They loved each other very much and David was a faithful family man.

As to America God obviously to any Christian, placed Trump in office. Without God he could never have been elected in the face of the weeping, screaming Clinton supporters. In his infinite mercy God has put off the destruction of America. We still have millions screaming for Trump's removal and worse. The corrupt politicians were elected by multitudes of godless that are just as corrupt.

Politicians smile and use their winning ways to bring evil to pass. Ronald Reagan was the one that introduced "THERAPEUTIC ABORTION" to the state of California. He was also among the first to dip into the government ladle into Social Security funds. Politicians now speak as if the SS monies were a gift from the government rather Than the hard earned deduction from our paychecks.

Though we are told in Romans that the goverment is set by God to be our protector we see it persecuting the citizens and giving aid and comfort to illegal immigrants that kill, steal and do violence.

My daughter has had hardened faced Hispanics follow her around in different stores. Very frightening for a young, single upright woman. I'm pushing her to her her concealed carry permit. I have mine and have seen atremots on my disabled wife as she made her painful way to our car. I certainly pray for protection and believe in it. If assaulted I will defend my family.

We see the same demise of society that happened in ancient Israel and Sodom and Gomorrha. Things are broadcast that would have meant arrest and jail time just forty years ago..

All media networks are corrupt and broadcast lies. Newspapers are a joke and would not know truth if it were a truck that ran them over.

We had our first black president and I would have cheered if he had been upright. Sadly the first black president of America was one of the most corrupt and completely anti common sense men ever to hold the office. While rejecting Christians Obama hosted Muslims time and again saying the Islamic call to prayer was, the most beautiful sound he'd ever heard.

The Bible says if a ruler listens to lies all of his advisors, are wicked.

His post president home in Washington D. C. is 2 blocks from the largest Islamic temple in Washington where the call to Muslim prayer can be heard daily.

How the mighty have fallen. God has given us a brief reprieve from destruction through the election but what shall be afterwards only he knows.

I posted a list in a thread about HEK-293. This is an extract, Human Embryonic Kidney, used by scores of companies in food and drinks. Literal cannibalsm. Take time to review that list in the use if HEK-293, SENOMYX.

We must pray for peace and deliverance. Our children will have to live in whatever culture remains when we are gone.

God Almighty have mercy on this evil wicked nation.

That story about your friend is very sad. I have always had trouble coping with the bad in this life. When I hear of another's grief it makes me feel pain. I don't understand why God would let that happen to him, or to anyone else. I still ask God why I had / have to endure things. How do you make sense of it?

I spoke with a lawyer who noticed my Christian email and shocked me when he said "There is no God! That's why you're the way you are!" He went on to share that he had to represent clients who were molested by priests and another high-profile case. I can only imagine some of the painful, heart wrenching things he had to listen to. I shared my faith as best as I could at a time where my own faith was failing. I believe God yet am troubled by these things. Why would He let your friend go to prison and the cops who beat a man to a pulp walk off scot free? Or an abortion doctor who murders babies?

They're the things I can't grasp. It would have been better if that man hadn't been born. I've heard about the IRS. Do you know the IRS building has illuminati symbolism outside? The two torches signify evil, so the entire IRS was established on evil principles. John Whitehead calls it "A Government of Wolves."

I don't see the destruction of America as too far away - I look all around and see nothing but lies and hardship, and corruption. I spoke with a nurse practitioner today who told me her taxes are upwards of $15,000 a year - and she said "what do we get for that?" Where is that money going? Everything has gone up but wages. It hurts to see my family struggling. Even though we're older my husband still works and I do what I can. I scrimp and save and we live very modestly. We don't go out hardly ever. The overall tone of everybody isn't one of hopefulness.

Ronald Reagan was illuminati I read - he went to Bohemian Grove and one of his friends said that he allegedly was gay. He's not the hero he was made out to be. His wife was big into astrology I recall.

The government is not what it's meant to be - as John Whitehead said, it has become a wolf. I'm concerned about all the migrants coming here and so is everybody else. We saw a gang of them at the airport acting obnoxious. They came out of the mens room and one had his zipper down and fixed himself in public. I saw then how bad things have gotten - they don't hold our values. Men would have never stood for that years ago, and this man did it in front of everyone at the airport and not one person spoke up. It just shows how bad the morals are. But I didn't speak up either - they were so obnoxious they probably would have done something to anyone who spoke up. There is no group sense of morality like back in the day. It makes me sad for this country and these generations who never knew what normal felt like. We have vague memories but it's grown very bad just in my lifetime. We feel powerless to stop it. It's like once a line has been crossed you can't go back.

I don't trust the news - you're right - it's all propaganda, not news. One of my children watches it and always takes the leftist side of an issue. They brainwash them in school, college, and the news. But even so I always repeat the truth.

We got a gun and am going to get another. I like having it in case there is a collapse of society. Obama was a disaster - we couldn't believe that Congress let him get away with so much. He seemed to enjoy planting middle-easterners in our midst that after 9-11 freaked a lot of people out. It was very confusing that an American President could be allowed to do something like that to an entire country of people. That's what I mean by us being too socialized. In times past there would have been a Revolution - men would have taken up arms and ousted him. No man would try that today - they have armies of police in riot gear who would kill them on sight. We're in a militarized society whether people want to admit it or not. We're more like Nazi Germany than America. We're oppressed - many just don't know it yet.

That's gross about the kidney extract. I'm afraid to ask where they get it.

I don't have much hope for this nation. I felt some hope when Trump was elected, but I'm unsure of him now although I support him until I learn more. But too many things are wrong in too many places. I've prayed every day - every day without fail. I'm waiting and waiting for God to act.

 

[Frank Lee]

The HEK-293 comes directly from abortions. I've read articles on it.

The things men do are blamed on God. Satan provokes men to evil through the lust of the flesh and God is blamed.

Corrupt denominations that forbid men to marry are condemning the innocent to be attacked and violated. They that do such things shall answer no matter their chur h or denomination PERIOD.

From time to time I see someone straightened out. I had a co-worker become very angry when I mentioned God. He related how the Baptist church he was made to go to when young young was harsh and vindictive and hurt him a lot. He never wanted anything to do with God.

He asked me to lunch one day and we spoke of many things. I related my salvation and wonderful thing God had done for us. A few weeks later he said that he and his family had started church and that I had said something at our lunch date that had really spoke to him. I had NO idea what it might have been so asked.

He replied "you said God didn't do that to you, men did".

That simple thing that the Holy Spirit had me say turned around events of twenty years past. God be praised.

My time now is much shorter than before. I am sorely grieved by the viciousness of some scripture quoters at this place. I see some that are not true believers and many others that refuse the baptism in the Holy Spirit by Jesus himself. Only anger and a desire to convert you to their ideas of God seem to empower them to their particular unholy wars. But as Paul we cannot be moved by those not having the spirit and that are moved by dark even evil motives.

God help, encourage, bless, guide and anoint all with a heart and mind to follow the savior even if it be into the garden of Gethsemane.



All glory be to God.

 

[Soverign Grace]

The HEK-293 comes directly from abortions. I've read articles on it.

The things men do are blamed on God. Satan provokes men to evil through the lust of the flesh and God is blamed.

Corrupt denominations that forbid men to marry are condemning the innocent to be attacked and violated. They that do such things shall answer no matter their chur h or denomination PERIOD.

From time to time I see someone straightened out. I had a co-worker become very angry when I mentioned God. He related how the Baptist church he was made to go to when young young was harsh and vindictive and hurt him a lot. He never wanted anything to do with God.

He asked me to lunch one day and we spoke of many things. I related my salvation and wonderful thing God had done for us. A few weeks later he said that he and his family had started church and that I had said something at our lunch date that had really spoke to him. I had NO idea what it might have been so asked.

He replied "you said God didn't do that to you, men did".

That simple thing that the Holy Spirit had me say turned around events of twenty years past. God be praised.

My time now is much shorter than before. I am sorely grieved by the viciousness of some scripture quoters at this place. I see some that are not true believers and many others that refuse the baptism in the Holy Spirit by Jesus himself. Only anger and a desire to convert you to their ideas of God seem to empower them to their particular unholy wars. But as Paul we cannot be moved by those not having the spirit and that are moved by dark even evil motives.

God help, encourage, bless, guide and anoint all with a heart and mind to follow the savior even if it be into the garden of Gethsemane.

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All glory be to God.

I don't excuse God - I see that I and many others have limited means to change the corrupt who gain office - some people are victimized through no fault of theirs yet God has the power to stop it and we don't. That's the struggle I bring before Him a lot. He has the power. Satan may be inciting the evil but God holds the power to stop it.

I've often said that someone may take a vow of celibacy yet those hormones continue to be churned out. It's unfathomable why those priests don't take care of it themselves and assault children - that shows Satan is at work inciting it.

Churches can hurt people. My family was hurt in a few churches, and the worst thing done to me was done by a professing Christian - so while I treat all with respect and try to care for them, I am wary of who I allow close to me now because of the sin in men's hearts. I no longer accept that I'm safe because this person is a professing Christian - some Christians you can't turn your back on. There are many good Christians but we don't know yet what a dark heart is capable of. I learned the hard way. I don't understand why God allowed some things but some Christians have very very dark and evil hearts and a smile, I learned, can hide a lot of evil.

Still for every evil individual I have met more Christians who were good people who honestly try to do good to others. We're walking a tricky course.

 

[bbyrd009]

People aren't like they were years ago - everything is wrong and no one does anything.

this perspective is reflected in Scripture wadr, you might go find it

When you pile too many people onto a float, the float sinks.

ah, but who built the float? How was the float built? If not on the backs of others, iow

 

[Soverign Grace]

this perspective is reflected in Scripture wadr, you might go find it

ah, but who built the float? How was the float built? If not on the backs of others, iow

Nothing comes to mind.

The float is a figure of speech that shows that we only have so many resources. We're getting taxed into oblivion - ours keeps going up, yet salaries aren't keeping pace. One of my family members who works in the real estate business told me that if you owe someone $100 they can put your house up for sale and sell it right out from under you to pay your debt. Yet illegals come into the country and aren't expected to pay a dime for anything. Yet who are we told to feel sorry for? That was when my thinking changed. I saw my family out struggling, working long, grueling hours, getting up at an ungodly hour and going to bed at an ungodly hour. Worrying over how they're going to pay the bills and how the IRS puts a yoke on our backs to pull everyone around with. I saw that I was denied a critical operation unless I paid the co-pay yet in the same hospital illegals walked in nonchalantly and weren't expected to pay a dime, and didn't have to worry about where they were going to get the money to pay the co-pay. It just opened my eyes that the news was all propaganda. They would show a sad-faced migrant family who have some tale of woe yet never did they show an American family being crushed under the burdens of a $15,000 tax bill, or unable to afford medical care, or a vet going without medical needs, or a guy who bites his fingernails down to the bone, worrying how he's going to afford next month's rent. I just looked at everything differently because I saw that the masses were being led by the nose by the major news stations.

 

[bbyrd009]

The float is a figure of speech that shows that we only have so many resources

ah, we do? hmm

I just looked at everything differently because I saw that the masses were being led by the nose by the major news stations.

leading you to...what conclusion, this looking at everything differently; you mean where the MSM is concerned, i guess?

 

[Soverign Grace]

ah, we do? hmm
leading you to...what conclusion, this looking at everything differently; you mean where the MSM is concerned, i guess?

I saw how the MSM tells people how and what to think and it doesn't square with reality. The people who really have it hard are the people working two jobs, up at an ungodly hour to trudge off to work, work all day out in the elements, come home and work a 2nd job, worry about paying the mortgage, insurance, water bill, taxes, and everything else. I talked to a nurse who has been on disability for years. She and others would sit around shooting the breeze all day long and they were complaining about their fear of the Republicans taking away some of their entitlements. They were perfectly content to sit home and be taken care of by everybody else. I asked the nurse why she didn't find a job to do from home and she said: "I don't HAVE to work! We live in a wealthy country." - She didn't care that she was taking from others. The needy people aren't always the true needy. I've seen people work long hours and struggle hard and the news never reports on them and the long ungodly hours they work. I just looked past what the MSM was telling people. Once you open your eyes you see how much deception there really is.

 

[bbyrd009]

She didn't care that she was taking from others.

my pov here is somewhat different, runs along the lines of "our system makes these ppl," but i certainly wouldn't disagree that no one should be giving her money prolly. She most certainly isn't getting any of mine, i'll tell you that. But as to her taking, if someone is giving? Meh. Stop giving and she can't take imo

The needy people aren't always the true needy.

God can take care of them too huh? There's prolly more lessons in those transactions for the givers than the takers i guess. God does not want us to be codependent suckers imo

I've seen people work long hours and struggle hard and the news never reports on them and the long ungodly hours they work.

i don't work for food, so my perspective here will be weird too, don't get me wrong i'm about to go put 6 hours in unpaid, but it's bc i want to...anyway, you say they "work" here but wadr i say they serve the machine, they have a job imo, they do not have any work, or rather they are not doing it, as the struggle/reaping part that you are only inferring there will even testify to imo. That is slavery, not living. If the pawns refuse to play, there is no game :)
Quit your job and start work today imo, or even start a tiny step toward work today and start planning on quitting that job asap, something like that. Plan on adding another step tomorrow

 

[bbyrd009]

Once you open your eyes you see how much deception there really is.

once you leave the world you stop caring :)

 

[Soverign Grace]

my pov here is somewhat different, runs along the lines of "our system makes these ppl," but i certainly wouldn't disagree that no one should be giving her money prolly. She most certainly isn't getting any of mine, i'll tell you that. But as to her taking, if someone is giving? Meh. Stop giving and she can't take imo
God can take care of them too huh? There's prolly more lessons in those transactions for the givers than the takers i guess. God does not want us to be codependent suckers imo
i don't work for food, so my perspective here will be weird too, don't get me wrong i'm about to go put 6 hours in unpaid, but it's bc i want to...anyway, you say they "work" here but wadr i say they serve the machine, they have a job imo, they do not have any work, or rather they are not doing it, as the struggle/reaping part that you are only inferring there will even testify to imo. That is slavery, not living. If the pawns refuse to play, there is no game :)
Quit your job and start work today imo, or even start a tiny step toward work today and start planning on quitting that job asap, something like that. Plan on adding another step tomorrow

We're forced to give - it's not voluntary. I saw Judge Judy ream this woman who kept knocking out baby after baby and forcing the public to pay for their keep. Judge Judy said: "Joyce, I don't want to support my children and I love them." She had a point. I hate the taxes I see getting taken out of our hides. It hurts to see one of my family members struggling and working from the time he wakes up until late into the night and he's still struggling, while that lazy nurse sits at home lazing around and taking from his labor because our foolish government has set it up that way. It wasn't meant to be this way. There are truly needy people - that's what this fund was meant for, not the lazy nurses of the world who sit home shooting the breeze when she could answer phone calls and otherwise work from home - I did. The U.S. is wealthy she says? Not wealthy - every apple she chomps on someone had to labor to produce. That is galling to me when I see these prima donnas sitting at home getting a free ride on everyone's back while I watch my family struggling to bear up under their heavy load - if it's legitimate then there is no issue - help the poor and needy but not the lazy; not someone who has been sucking at the public trough for years and can't work from home a few days a week? My husband played horseshoes with a guy who could play horseshoes and was always looking around to see if someone was watching him because he lied about being unable to work.

You're fortunate if you don't have taxes usurped and redistributed. My husband ran a job where all these law students would get drunk at parties and throw things at the building he and his men were constructing, breaking all these expensive 7 foot tall windows and causing thousands in damages. It was frustrating because they had to clean up the destruction that those future leaders of America made. I don't know how my family can get out from under the burdens of being forced to pay taxes to have their labor redistributed. I just spoke with a nurse practitioner paying $15k a year in taxes. What does the government need to bleed that one person so much for? So people like the nurse can sit at home, her time all her own, and get her government check every month? I think people have to start complaining about this because it's really being abused - more than you know.

My husband's co-worker said his sister-in-law quit her teaching job and is now on disability because she said it "hurt her back" to teach. How does being a teacher hurt your back? My husband went to work every day with a bad back and performed manual labor. I see a relative's boyfriend who was in a bad car accident. A nurse working a double-shift was speeding to get home and rammed him from behind. He now has a stiff neck and back and is forced to work in a labor-intensive job. I saw him recently and he seemed overwhelmed and down. I asked how he was and he told me he was struggling trying to work and pay bills with his neck and back so messed up. And the government is refusing to let him get more than 5 days worth of pain medication a month. It's like the Egyptians told to make bricks without straw. Here is this man running like a gerbil on a wheel trying to keep up - now with bad injuries, and can't. Meanwhile Ms. Nurse sits home in her warm comfortable house getting taken care of. They're the things hard to watch. If she was even thankful it might make it at least bearable, but she's not. She thinks she's entitled to sit at home and do nothing and have everyone else go out and work to support her. That's in stark contrast to what the bible says: "If you don't work you don't eat." I guess it's like Pslam 73 where Asaph's life was so hard and he looked at others' lives full of ease and free of trouble and it bothered him. It's hard to watch your own suffering while others such as that nurse are takers and the government lets them take for many many years. Something has to change. I hope more people complain because it's gotten ridiculous. Our taxes have steadily climbed and the government wants our pound of flesh while Ms. Nurse isn't expected to do anything because she got a dishonest lawyer and a dishonest doctor. It surprises me that more taxpayers aren't up in arms over it.

 

[bbyrd009]

We're forced to give - it's not voluntary.

however you are not forced to identify with that "we" regardless of how hard "they" try to impress upon you that you are, so i gotta maintain that you are forced give maybe, yes, but i don't contribute to that at all, and i suggest you become an Anarchist too

You're fortunate if you don't have taxes usurped and redistributed.

um, well, thank you? Ya, i am fortunate there i guess, i should be more thankful for that for sure! it has been a kind of tender spot, as it was...not the easiest thing to do, lol, i mean i was raised city and everything