A Sane Rant: So what gives with this so-called invisible Virus war?

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Joseph77

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Well, we'll pray today for the opening of the mind to Jesus, to Truth, a gift from the Father in heaven... and true and holy spiritual life from Him, in reality, in line with and perfect harmony with all of His Word.
 

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being forbidden ever to enter heaven -


1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.


1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 

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Thus in the world,
as written, the wide-spread acceptance of the mark, thus when done, when received,
being forbidden ever to enter heaven -
because of trusting the government/ man/ strength of man/ for sustenance, food, money, 'life' supplies,
instead of trusting Jesus.
The natural man is not forbidden to enter heaven - IF he becomes/ is/ REDEEMED BY THE BLOOD , born again by the Will of the Father in Heaven,
but the man, any man, who receives the mark is never able to enter heaven, as written in God's Word.

1 Corinthians 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Thus men may be redeemed,
to receive the things of the Spirit of God, which all are spiritually discerned,

but many men will be forbidden ever to enter heaven, all those who receive the mark.
 

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The natural man is not forbidden to enter heaven - IF he becomes/ is/ REDEEMED BY THE BLOOD , born again by the Will of the Father in Heaven,
but the man, any man, who receives the mark is never able to enter heaven, as written in God's Word.


Thus men may be redeemed,
to receive the things of the Spirit of God, which all are spiritually discerned,

but many men will be forbidden ever to enter heaven, all those who receive the mark.

so you are saying the natural man can and does receive the things of God?
 

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so you are saying the natural man can and does receive the things of God?
No. We all once were sons of disobedience - natural - unregenrate.

We did, or may in the future, become UN-natural, :)

spiritual, re-born, born again, circumcised heart by God's Doing (not by human will, not by human hands).

So as we see natural men posting everywhere, publishing news reports obviously false, even false medical reports,
there is or remains some possibility that those natural men will be one day saved, right?

But if anyone, anyone, any where, receives the mark, for them there is no more any hope at all, ever.
Those are the ones who worshiped, served, trusted the beast, and lost their minds first, then their souls to it. With no chance ever of recovering, ever, at all.
 

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No. We all once were sons of disobedience - natural - unregenrate.

Then all received that mark taken ...to be taken and destroyed. That natural image in you have borne that image. As all have fallen short. Paul mentioned to put such a one out of the body for the destruction of the flesh, that spirit may be saved. Yet He said that day doesn’t come upon you unaware but instead aware of the loss and cost of restoration.

But if anyone, anyone, any where, receives the mark, for them there is no more any hope at all, ever.
Those are the ones who worshiped, served, trusted the beast, and lost their minds first, then their souls to it. With no chance ever of recovering, ever, at all.

With men it is impossible. With God all things are possible.

Philippians 3:14-19 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. [15] Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. [16] Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing. [17] Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. (1 Corinthians 4:9)


(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: [19] Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
 

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Most are taken unaware- most are not ever ready.

We all ONCE WERE serving the prince of the power of the air, naturally, unregenerate, BEFORE SALVATION,
no need to take the mark to be a son of disobedience - all are born that way.

The mark may be received anytime in a persons lifetime, as God Allows, and if anyone receives the mark, ever, they are not able to ever see the Kingdom of Heaven.

That is nothing at all though the same as being sons of disobedience, which everyone is to start, (Ephesians 2 )

Yet He said that day doesn’t come upon you unaware but instead aware of the loss and cost of restoration.
 

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if anyone receives the mark, ever, they are not able to ever see the Kingdom of Heaven.

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

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John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

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Thus, no understanding of the mark ? All Scripture is truth - these you posted have nothing to do with the other.
 

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Test everything. Antoine Bechamp did, as did all his work get tested worldwide and passed - same results everywhere.
But Louise Pasteur, a plagiarizer, grand-stander, got center-stage (because of lies, greed, and potential profits/ and actual profits) ....

See the difference between the truth (terrain theory) proven and tested, with the same results all over the world at the time,
vs the 'germ theory', promoted for whatever reasons given and seen or not....

(I think it was noted already, previous days, that there is not one iota in my posts that I would not lift a finger to help anyone - those in need, or even just asking for help)
Those suffering, when I meet them, they are helped, and must better than they expected.
Not everyone can be helped, either because of what is wrong, or they just don't want help,
whatever again the reason might be,
but if they do what is good and right , they receive not only help (usually healing) , but also joy.... and peace, and freedom knowing the truth.
Do you realise what you are saying Joesph , it relays that you have no respect for doctors and nurses, that you do not value what they do - and you add that God would not permit you to lift a finger to support helping those in need - those suffering.
Rita
 

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I was typing fast.
If you want to know about the five white poisons, do a web search with duck duck go (no spaces) or another - g**gle might work - but realize it is controlled/ censored a lot on some subjects.
 

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Didn't you want to know how those who were successful dealing with pandemics or plagues or epidemics/ viral and bacterial , etc, were successful ? Did you search and find out yet ?
(the five white poisons are intimately related)
 

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Not many will believe it because they love bowing down and worshiping Governments. In fact they would rather worship at the teet of science than God because "experts" know everything and if anyone dare give a different opinion than they re declared idiots and nuts

Yes, but are not Christians supposed to seek for the truth - to get truth at all cost , according to Scripture (God's Own Word) ?
 
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Not quite sure why you have quoted my post in your post 311 - that was a conversation we had over a week ago, it’s also out of context of what you relayed to me at the time........anyhow I am not going over all that again.
Right it’s 3pm in the UK - I need to get some sleep
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Not quite sure why you have quoted my post in your post 311 - that was a conversation we had over a week ago, it’s also out of context of what you relayed to me at the time........anyhow I am not going over all that again.
Right it’s 3pm in the UK - I need to get some sleep
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The message though is not out of context, time wise nor information wise... (I think) might review tomorrow, God Willing ----
Someone else brought it up (in another stream) . Good night ....
 

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@Joseph77..I was attempting to respond to your thread and found out it was closed..what a shame...and WHY....I thought your OP made much sense and is applicable today, indeed.

This is what I had to say on it....

Well for me the OP is quite clear and understandable. In Leviticus these four areas forbidden and mention be many on this thread already had solid purpose: having a tattoo and cutting one's skin meant to identify with surrounding pagan tribes and their rituals despicable to the LORD. And similarly, cutting the side of the head or shortening the beard meant again to identify with tribes of pagan culture. The LORD wanted his people to do specific things that he commanded in faith, for their own physical, mental and spiritual well-being; and to separate themselves from the world. And doing this in faith meant they would never question what's the big deal with having a tattoo or cutting the beard shorter, for example. As we all know his people eventually fell out of faith for him and his commands and began to conform to pagan ways and their culture.

Now for me Romans 14:23 also speaks to doing things in faith, else it can turn to sin, quickly and eventually. If we have to question ourselves whether having a tattoo is alright or not, usually means to me it is wrong. And because it is my heart and the Spirit within me that is responding. Again, for me having external devices and I use devices or displays very loosely here can be sin, sin of pride, self-adoration that can weaken my faith quickly, acutely and chronically. That is even why at home I do not have exotic or any extravagant large pictures on the wall...I'm convicted and firmly convinced they too are idols and can be sin. The same would go for a fine 'Christian symbol worn around my neck or a shape or symbol dyed into my skin.

So I understand the OP...it does show from Leviticus even and now under the age of grace for salvation we are really no better and maybe worse than those the LORD spoke to a few thousand years ago. It is all about keeping the faith solely in the LORD and that does not mean faith in the LORD +++in the 'church' building to capture unbelievers to Christ.....faith in the LORD +++a cross to make one proud to be a 'Christian' and even prideful in front of the world...and there are many, many more examples.....

So the lack of virginity also follows the same path from this OP ..faith in the LORD. It differs from the other objects I mentions above that can easily turn to sin. This one od no sex before marriage is quite clear and binary whilst the tattoo or the cross wearing can be become more deceptive and at first seem to be innocent, and can quite easily turn into temptation, enticement and cause sin over time if not contained..IMO, I do not go there....

Blessings,

APAK
 

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Yes, but are not Christians supposed to seek for the truth - to get truth at all cost , according to Scripture (God's Own Word) ?

Brings an interesting point which is are those who love the government so much that they will do whatever they say, basically worshiping Government were they ever Christians in more than name only. One thing we have learned from this pandemic is who is not Christians just look at the toilet paper rush. The toilet paper rush was just about selfishness, of course only God knows that and we all could panic and do the same without realizing.
 

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Brings an interesting point which is are those who love the government so much that they will do whatever they say, basically worshiping Government were they ever Christians in more than name only. One thing we have learned from this pandemic is who is not Christians just look at the toilet paper rush. The toilet paper rush was just about selfishness, of course only God knows that and we all could panic and do the same without realizing.
Some persons, some groups as a whole, never panicked at all. Never do. (see the start of 'non-panicking' (is that a word), women of faith , in the book of Hebrews) ...

Even in prison, locked in chains, in cold stone prison, singing SINGING! OUT LOUD! HYMNS,
and PSALMS and SPIRITUAL SONGS ! HALLELUYAH ! ALL PRAISE TO GOD !