A PECULIAR PEOPLE

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Deuteronomy 14:2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.

Deuteronomy 26:18 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;

The Lord called Israel chosen to be a peculiar people above all the nations.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Peter calls the believing remnant of Israel a peculiar people. Peter is not speaking of the church in this dispensation, the body of Christ. Peter is speaking of the Israel of God, the remnant. Peter identifies the remnant of Israel as being a holy nation which God says are above all the nations. The body of Christ is never said to be a nation. Peter is saying the remnant will keep his commandments as opposed to Paul saying the body of Christ are zealous of good works. Peter calls this peculiar people a royal priesthood in Exodus 40:15 and Revelation 1:6; Paul never calls the body of Christ a priesthood.

Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Paul here does call the body of Christ a peculiar people as well. The Bible can use the same word in the scriptures, but they don't always have the same meaning or application; their use depends on context. Both Peter and Paul speak of a peculiar people but they are not the same people. Peter's people are the believing remnant of Israel; Paul's peculiar people are the body of Christ.
 

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Paul here does call the body of Christ a peculiar people as well. The Bible can use the same word in the scriptures, but they don't always have the same meaning or application; their use depends on context. Both Peter and Paul speak of a peculiar people but they are not the same people. Peter's people are the believing remnant of Israel; Paul's peculiar people are the body of Christ.
This is not correct. Jewish Christians are also part of the body of Christ. Jewish and Gentile believers together are the "Israel of God", to borrow Paul's phrase from Galatians 6:16.

The word "peculiar" is in modern English is not a good translation of the Greek peripoiēsis, though some of the folks on this board are peculiar indeed. The word means "a personal possession". We ARE, in Christ, God's people. We are called to represent Him to the world. This is the same calling God placed on Israel in Deuteronomy 7:6.
 
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Deuteronomy 14:2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.

Deuteronomy 26:18 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments;

The Lord called Israel chosen to be a peculiar people above all the nations.

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Peter calls the believing remnant of Israel a peculiar people. Peter is not speaking of the church in this dispensation, the body of Christ. Peter is speaking of the Israel of God, the remnant. Peter identifies the remnant of Israel as being a holy nation which God says are above all the nations. The body of Christ is never said to be a nation. Peter is saying the remnant will keep his commandments as opposed to Paul saying the body of Christ are zealous of good works. Peter calls this peculiar people a royal priesthood in Exodus 40:15 and Revelation 1:6; Paul never calls the body of Christ a priesthood.

Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Paul here does call the body of Christ a peculiar people as well. The Bible can use the same word in the scriptures, but they don't always have the same meaning or application; their use depends on context. Both Peter and Paul speak of a peculiar people but they are not the same people. Peter's people are the believing remnant of Israel; Paul's peculiar people are the body of Christ.
2 Peter was written in AD 67, well after the council of Jerusalem. He testified with Paul about the Gentiles being saved as the Jews were, since he himself went to Cornelius's, of the Italian regiment, house in Acts. Peter was well aware that all Christians were a special priesthood now and not a "remnant" of the Jews. Peter was in Rome with Paul at the time he wrote this epistle. Both Peter and Paul were preaching to Gentiles now, before both were executed.
 

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I would teach newbies that they are the same people; that we have been grafted into Israel (Romans 11:11-31).
[Act 10:45 KJV] 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

The Gentiles who believed the preaching of Peter were grafted into the believing remnant of Israel
 

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This is not correct. Jewish Christians are also part of the body of Christ
yes the body of Christ also includes Jews .....what is incorrect....what I wrote never said they arent
 

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A verse that says that please
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2 Peter was written in AD 67, well after the council of Jerusalem. He testified with Paul about the Gentiles being saved as the Jews were, since he himself went to Cornelius's, of the Italian regiment, house in Acts.
[Act 15:7 KJV] 7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men [and] brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.

Peter was recounting that his preaching was believed by the Gentiles and they received the Holy Ghost....this happened in Acts 10

[Act 10:43 KJV] 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

This is what Peter was preaching.....not the cross but to believe on the name of Jesus....to believe he is Christ the Son of God
These Gentiles were in the remnant of Israel
 

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Peculiar is not such a good translation but okay let's look it up. It is not as we normally interpret peculiar to mean - odd with a negative connotation; but more in the sense: particular, special, unusual, a treasured possession. God chose them, holy ( set apart), they were special. As Christians are chosen, we are special.
We are unusual too, aliens in the world.
 
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These verses do not say that Jew and Gentile believers are the Israel of God....Galatians only says Israel of God....not saying anything else
Just so you know, Jesus told me that everyone is the same in heaven. So, it doesn't matter.
 

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These verses do not say that Jew and Gentile believers are the Israel of God....Galatians only says Israel of God....not saying anything else
What do you suppose Paul meant by "the Israel of God"?

How does Paul's understanding of "the Israel of God" relate to "circumcision and "uncircumcision" in the previous verse?

Going back into Genesis to the story of Jacob rassling at the well, what does the name "Israel" mean in Hebrew?
 
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What do you suppose Paul meant by "the Israel of God"?

How does Paul's understanding of "the Israel of God" relate to "circumcision and "uncircumcision" in the previous verse?
[Gal 6:16 KJV] 16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace [be] on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

The verse isnt defined
If you want to know my understanding I will say that Paul never says the body of Christ has replaced or become Israel
To me the Israel of God refers to the believing remnant of Israel
 

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How does Paul's understanding of "the Israel of God" relate to "circumcision and "uncircumcision" in the previous verse?
[Gal 6:15-16 KJV] 15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. 16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace [be] on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.

Paul is saying that in his revelations he was told the body of Christ was a new creature where there was neither Jew or Gentile and that circumcision and keeping the law would not avail them. Peace and mercy to those in the body who held to this. As well, Paul was asking for peace and mercy to the believing remnant, the Israel of God.
The Israel of God was the believing remnant of God that believed in the name of Jesus....that believed he was Christ, the Son of God.....the Israel of God are Jews, those who are of faith.
 
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Okay, I see you're peddling Dispensationalism. At least I know where you're coming from now.
[Luk 18:22 KJV] 22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

Have you sold all?
 

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[Luk 18:22 KJV] 22 Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.

Have you sold all?
Is THAT what these threads are about?
 
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