A heretical teaching dismantled with the help of Paul the Evangelist.

[Truthnightmare]

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Do you believe….
St. Bernardine of Sienna says:

"St. Bernardine of Sienna does not hesitate to say that: "all obey the commands of Mary, even God himself" (Glories of Mary, Liguori, 202).​

Do you believe?
New Interpretation of the Mass, (with the "nihil obstat" and "imprimatur") by Borgmann, on page 57, we read the following blasphemous statement about Jesus and Mary:

"Now He lifts His eyes to her, knowing that she is His mother. At every nod of her eyes HE PLAYS THE PART OF THE ''SUBDEACON'' and grants her every wish" (Catholicism Against Itself, Vol.11, Lambert, 122).​

 

[Sigma]

I can use Jesus’ examples any time I want!!

You're a coward and using Jesus the way you just did is wrong, especially when His silence wasn't out of cowardice like you.

 

[Sigma]

You believe you have been enlightened with some private understanding of scripture.

How so?

...just another person on a forum pretending they have hidden knowledge that others are not privy to.

How so?

At this point you are ego driven, not looking for truth but merely trying to make a proclamation of your own prominence.

How so?

A child can understand
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS

I've proven that those you claim to have been Jesus's siblings were actually His cousins, so the word "firstborn" in Matt. 1:25 isn't used there in the way you think.

You have been refuted and proven wrong by many members.

No one, including you, has refuted anything I said. In fact, you didn't even reply to any of my counter-arguments in posts #96 and #97, nor have you even attempted to refute my evidence that proves Jesus's "siblings" were the sons of Joseph's brother, Alphaeus, thus making them His cousins. Do you really think that makes you look like you refuted me?...

 

[amigo de christo]

Never make your bed with a HARLOT . dine not at her table . eat not of her dainties .
That is one massive harlot my friends . SHE has infected about every realm known to man . presidents , world leaders
heck imams bow to her too . She is a monster and is pouring out a cup of filthy fornication to join
all peoples and all religoins to be as one UNDER HER SHADE . WONT BE DRINKING OF HER CUP . NOPE . ITS JESUS
and the bible for me .

 

[Taken]

David is self employed . So am i . . its so peaceful to just work with your own two hands unto the glorious LORD .
HE is with the lambs . YES HE IS . now let all that has breath both praise and thank the glorious LORD .

Didn’t mean self-employment is not rewarding, it is. Things can get skimpy at times, seeing how doing your own labor, taking your own risks, always has the evil, nosy govt servant calculating how much they deserve for doing nothing.

 

[amigo de christo]

Time be running out , HEED not her call for world peace and safety . fOR SOON
in an hour known to no man , SUDDEN DESTRUCTION COMETH .
partake not of her cup , FOR STRONG IS THE LORD GOD WHO SHALL JUDGE HER and all who drank of hercup
will be destroyed . BIBLE TIME my friends . Hurry , cause time be running out .

 

[Truthnightmare]

What else do you believe concerning Catholicism?

CC (Catechism) 966: "Finally the Immaculate Virgin, preserved free from all stain of original sin, when the course of her earthly life was finished, was taken up body and soul into heavenly glory, and exalted by the Lord as QUEEN over all things, so that she might be the more fully conformed to her Son, the Lord of lords and conqueror of sin and death.' [LG 59; cf. Pius XII, Munificentissimus Deus (1950): DS 3903; cf. Rev 19:16.] The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin is a singular participation in her Son's Resurrection and an anticipation of the resurrection of other Christians: In giving birth you kept your virginity; in your Dormition you did not leave the world, O Mother of God, but were joined to the source of Life. You conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death." [Byzantine Liturgy, Troparion, Feast of the Dormition, August 15th.]*emphasis added

Do you also believe…

CC 969: "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heavenshe did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation.... Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix." [LG 62.] *emphasis added
CC 973: "By pronouncing her 'fiat' at the Annunciation and giving her consent to the Incarnation, Mary was already collaborating with the whole work her Son was to accomplish. She is mother wherever he is Savior and head of the Mystical Body." *emphasis added

In the Catholic Catechism, Mary is placed on par with Jesus Christ:

CC 964: "Mary's role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. 'This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ's virginal conception up to his death'; [LG 57.] it is made manifest above all at the hour of his Passion: Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross. There she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, joining herself with his sacrifice in her mother's heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim, born of her: to be given, by the same Christ Jesus dying on the cross, as a mother to his disciple, with these words: 'Woman, behold your son.'[LG 58; cf. Jn 19:26-27 .]" *emphasis added

CC 2677: "Holy Mary, Mother of God": With Elizabeth we marvel, 'And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?' [Lk 1:43] Because she gives us Jesus, her son, Mary is Mother of God and our mother; we can entrust all our cares and petitions to her: she prays for us as she prayed for herself: 'Let it be to me according to your word.' [Lk 1:38] By entrusting ourselves to her prayer, we abandon ourselves to the will of God together with her: 'Thy will be done'. "Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death": By asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the 'Mother of Mercy,' the All-Holy One. We give ourselves over to her now, in the Today of our lives. And our trust broadens further, already at the present moment, to surrender 'the hour of our death' wholly to her care. May she be there as she was at her son's death on the cross. May she welcome us as our mother at the hour of our passing [Jn 19:27] to lead us to her son, Jesus, in paradise." *emphasis added

 

[amigo de christo]

Didn’t mean self-employment is not rewarding, it is. Things can get skimpy at times, seeing how doing your own labor, taking your own risks, always has the evil, nosy govt servant calculating how much they deserve for doing nothing.

Someone a few years back asked me if my boss would fire me for not taking the vaccine . Yeah i got a wee bit tickled about that .
And then simply said , NOPE , NO PROBLEMS THERE . lol .
Nor will my boss write me up or fire me for refusing to NOT CORRECTLY GENDER SOMEONE BY THEIR OWN SO CALLED MINDSET .
NO , no problems there . TRUTH is if i ever did once try and become pro noun friendly , I WOULD FIRE MYSELF . lol .
This lamb WONT COMPROMISE . IF GOD dont approve of it , WE DONT . Now hit the trenches .

 

[amigo de christo]

SHE BE A HARLOT for sure and for certain . someone has been busy exposing her . Good night , folks actually BELIEVE that stuff .
ITS BLASHPEMOUS .

 

[amigo de christo]

According to paul it says one day we shall even judge angels and etc .
WELL MARY , PETER and all them apostels gonna judge the RCC . Mary herself would have wept aloud
had she been here to see what they have tried to do to her . My goodness people , flee that place .

 

[amigo de christo]

My soul weeps for them folks that are trapped in that place . Get out and never look back . My desire is good for your souls .
Let us simply learn the scriptures for ourselves .

 

[Taken]

You're a coward and using Jesus the way you just did is wrong, especially when His silence wasn't out of cowardice like you.

Actually coward would be false. I have endured your unpleasantness for multiple posts.
Avoider of your nonsense would be more accurate.

 

[Sigma]

Actually coward would be false. I have endured your unpleasantness for multiple posts.
Avoider of your nonsense would be more accurate.

No nonsense and I haven't been unpleasant to you at all, and you know it. More excuses as a cover for your cowardice.

 

[Truthnightmare]

The Pope prays to and worships Mother Mary:

Excerpt of Pope's Address at the Shrine of Mary in Poland.

"Hail, O Daughter of God the Father,
Hail, O Mother of the Son of God,
Hail, O Bride of the Holy Spirit,
Temple of the Most Holy Trinity.
Amen."
- Pope John Paul II; Address at Blessing of Marian Shrine:
Poland, Monday, 7 June 1999​

There is a problem here, the Pope just gave the wrong Trinity. The Holy Trinity of the Bible is:

• The Father
• The Son
• The Holy Spirit

But the trinity the Pope just gave is:

• The Daughter (of the Father)
• The Mother (of the Son)
• The Bride (of the Holy Spirit)

There is also a problem with the Pope's Bridegroom and Bride. In the Bible we learn that Jesus Christ is the bridegroom, and the true body of believers (in Jesus) are the Bride. Naturally, the wedding is purely symbolic:

Mark 2:19
19 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast. (KJV)
Rev 21:9
9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. (KJV)

But the Pope says that Mary is the Bride and the Holy Spirit is the bridegroom!

 

[Taken]

According to paul it says one day we shall even judge angels and etc .
WELL MARY , PETER and all them apostels gonna judge the RCC . Mary herself would have wept aloud
had she been here to see what they have tried to do to her . My goodness people , flee that place .

I think Mary will be horrified of people bowing to supposed statues of her and preaching she was not an obedient wife to her husband and calling out to her for intercession and that she supposedly sits as some idle token queen of Heaven.

 

[Philip James]

In the Catholic Catechism, Mary is placed on par with Jesus Christ:

That is incorrect.

Jesus is divine, Mary is not.

Everything that Mary is, flows from Whom Jesus is..

Pax et Bonum

 

[Truthnightmare]

That is incorrect.

Jesus is divine, Mary is not.

Everything that Mary is, flows from Whom Jesus is..

Pax et Bonum

I know it is incorrect, but according to Catholicism….

Now He lifts His eyes to her, knowing that she is His mother. At every nod of her eyes HE PLAYS THE PART OF THE ''SUBDEACON'' and grants her every wish" (Catholicism Against Itself, Vol.11, Lambert, 122).​

 

[Taken]

No nonsense and I haven't been unpleasant to you at all, and you know it. More excuses as a cover for your cowardice.

Excusing your hounding and name calling as pleasant. LOL

 

[Sigma]

Excusing your hounding and name calling as pleasant. LOL

If you didn't repeatedly ignore my questions I wouldn't have had to repeatedly re-ask would I? And you're being cowardly by not answering two simple questions. What's the term for that? Coward.

 

[Truthnightmare]

Those who believe Mary was a virgin her whole life also believe…
Because she gives us Jesus, her son, Mary is Mother of God and our mother; we can entrust all our cares and petitions to her: she prays for us as she prayed for herself: 'Let it be to me according to your word.' [Lk 1:38] By entrusting ourselves to her prayer, we abandon ourselves to the will of God together with her: 'Thy will be done'. "Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death": By asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the 'Mother of Mercy,' the All-Holy One. We give ourselves over to her now, in the Today of our lives. And our trust broadens further, already at the present moment, to surrender 'the hour of our death' wholly to her care. May she be there as she was at her son's death on the cross. May she welcome us as our mother at the hour of our passing [Jn 19:27] to lead us to her son, Jesus, in paradise.

Basically Mary is our savior.