Timtofly
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Actually no created being on earth currently has spirit, nor a spirit. At least not part of their physical makeup. You cannot access nor communicate with your spirit.
That was forbidden by the OT Covenant, by sentence of death.
Your spirit is with God in heaven. If it is not, then a person's spirit has become a demon, and part of the spiritual realm we are still forbidden to access.
Not sure why no one can understand the spiritual death Adam experienced, and has passed down to all his offspring. Spiritual death is not the death of the spirit, but being separated totally from the spiritual world.
Except for the submission to the Holy Spirit through the soul or mind. Which is part of the second birth.
The use of the word "spirit" found often throughout the Bible is concerning "air", or the ability to breath. That is physical, and has no connection to the spiritual part of creation.
Context is necessary when interpreting how the term spirit is used.
There are spirits out there. The only reason they exist is because every human has one at conception, but the spirit remains with God, until such a time one is reprobate, or past the point of redemption. The Second Coming will be the point in time since Adam disobeyed God where all the redeemed are connected to their spirit.
If all understood the true nature of a spirit, they would have no issue whatsoever if God is spirit or a spirit. GOD the Father is the one physically sitting on the GWT. Now can any one in this thread say that is a physical body or a spiritual body? Or a body at all? God has a spirit, called the Holy Spirit, now can you explain how that third person can live inside of each redeemed person, without that indwelling, actually being air? Is air physical or spiritual, or both?
To top it off, when the spirit is finally put on, we will shine like the sun. That is what Jesus showed the 3 disciples on the mount of Transfiguration.
Jesus put on a perfect permanent incorruptible physical body, without sin, so that on the Cross, he would be made sin for us, to physically suffer death, and a physical resurrection. Obviously he was able to have a spirit without always shining like a star.
Nor did Jesus' spirit witness corruption, became a demon, but was given to the father, until Jesus ascended Sunday morning with the entire body of OT redeemed out of Abraham's bosom. If the church actually taught Adam lost his spirit, as well as literally physically died, and went from a permanent incorruptible physical body to a temporal corruptible physical body, it would make more sense than all this theological nonsense out there. Redemption of the physical body cannot happen until the soul leaves this current body for God's permanent one. 2 Corinthians 5:1
"For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens."
They all have a physical body in Paradise.
That word dissolved does not mean "return to dust". It is the release of a union between the soul and this body of death, so the soul is free to have a union with God's permanent incorruptible physical body in Paradise.
καταλύω. to dissolve, disunite (what has been joined together)
It means more than simply "destroy". You don't destroy the body when you leave. It was already dead and of death. Your soul is free of the union with death, to enter redemption and an union with a body of life.
