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You are not actually offering me anything of content. You haven't even gotten to any point in our discourse where you have established grounded facts as to why beliefs are essential for understanding reality. All you (and the others here) talk about is how beliefs are paramount on the basis of your personal feelings and experiences with the particular beliefs you have in themselves.
So around and around we go, where those beliefs go now one ever knows.
Ziggy
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Ziggy
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Ziggy
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Alright..
Do you have a bank account?
Do you get a Bank Statement?
Is the balance in your account fact or belief?
You don't have the cash in your hand, so you have to believe it's in the bank.
It's not reality though it's just digits on paper.
When does belief become fact?
Do you have a bank account?
Do you get a Bank Statement?
Is the balance in your account fact or belief?
You don't have the cash in your hand, so you have to believe it's in the bank.
It's not reality though it's just digits on paper.
When does belief become fact?
Triumph1300
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That is already a given. To understand reality you must believe that reality exists. Do you believe that the entire universe consists of atoms? And that matter and energy are interchangeable? That is the reality of the physical world. But there are also spiritual and supernatural realities. And only a fool would deny that. Therefore God say that "the fool has said in his heart there is no God".
Ziggy
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Let's see list of things to do tomorrow.
Remove light fixture that got damaged by leak in roof.
Remove damaged plywood from ceiling and walls.
Move shelving unit loaded with ceramic niknacks, while not moving anything.
Remove wet insulation from garage.
Climb through mounds of crap to find the stairs that lead to the attic of the garage to find supposable leak in garage roof.
Seal garage roof. (I don't climb ladders)
Call dumpster guy and have him pick up and empty the crap his girlfriend filled it with. Only $30 extra fee.
Support roof in cottage.
Move refrigerator and freezer from cottage to Garage.
See pictures above.
Time frame: Tomorrow.
I put this here so I don't forget.
By tomorrow night I will check off everything that got accomplished.
I don't have a two wheel dolly so this could be interesting indeed.
I'm beginning to think living in a tent on a desert island would be easier..
just saying..
Remove light fixture that got damaged by leak in roof.
Remove damaged plywood from ceiling and walls.
Move shelving unit loaded with ceramic niknacks, while not moving anything.
Remove wet insulation from garage.
Climb through mounds of crap to find the stairs that lead to the attic of the garage to find supposable leak in garage roof.
Seal garage roof. (I don't climb ladders)
Call dumpster guy and have him pick up and empty the crap his girlfriend filled it with. Only $30 extra fee.
Support roof in cottage.
Move refrigerator and freezer from cottage to Garage.
See pictures above.
Time frame: Tomorrow.
I put this here so I don't forget.
By tomorrow night I will check off everything that got accomplished.
I don't have a two wheel dolly so this could be interesting indeed.
I'm beginning to think living in a tent on a desert island would be easier..
just saying..
Ziggy
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I have online banking.
Very rarely do I carry cash. But I make transactions through the bank.
I send money from my account to the phone company without ever touching the money.
But for some reason both I and the phone company believe that actual money supplied by the bank has
mysteriously moved from one place to another.
It takes "FAITH" and a "BELIEF" that your bill will be paid.
It also takes the same from the receiver.
When you get your phone bill and it says PAID in FULL.
Then you KNOW the transaction was REAL.
But until you get that statement your hanging on a wing and a prayer that the bank don't mess up.
My Phone Bill has been PAID in FULL.
Hugs
Ziggy
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The only proof I can give to you is the proof I have seen in me.
And you don't know me. But I do. And that's all I need.
Hugs
amigo de christo
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no its all over even those who preach against it . WE have us a churchianity religoin that is larger that all faiths combined
Even most are already under it . ITS THIS FALSE LOVEY GOD . ITS A RELIGION and it contradicts THE LOVE OF GOD .
SEE the actual love of GOD would point to and procliam JESUS . IT DONT JUST LET MUSLIMS and others die in their sin of unbeleif .
YET MOST are already under , to some degree , this new WORLD CHURCHIANITY . ITS EVERYWHERE TRUMAN .
IT has infected many even on this site . TO SOME DEGREE it has already infected many . AND its only gonna get worse .
If folks are scared to evangelize the old fashoined way , AT LEAST PRAY FOR THOSE WHO AINT .
The human soul is rotting and will die. If you want to cease to exist, then do nothing. Peace.
Are you aware that people of other faiths experience that same transformation from the old them to a better them. That's exactly the same evidence they present about their belief as well.
Mantis
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I don’t get it. You are choosing not to believe out of stubbornness. I started praying to God one day and after a while he let me know who he is and how very real he is. He is Jesus. He is YWHY. He is the Holy Spirit and he is so real.
I don’t know why faith is so important to him but it is. I think he is proving to Satan that he can make people love him that have never seen him.
You can choose to burn. You can choose everlasting life. No one can convince you but God himself.
I don’t know why faith is so important to him but it is. I think he is proving to Satan that he can make people love him that have never seen him.
You can choose to burn. You can choose everlasting life. No one can convince you but God himself.
God told the first people not to eat a certain fruit because it would prove fatal. They didn't listen. It infected mankind with a disease called sin. One can reason and argue all around it, but those are the facts. He has provided a cure for this terminal condition, but in order to receive the benefits from it, we have to take it the way He prescribes.
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Ziggy
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Do you remember the conversation regarding the 4th dimension?
I have experienced that.
Do you remember the ball in the video?
That was me in my car in the middle of a freeway with an 18 wheeler inches from my rear bumper traveling 60 mph.
Immediately in the blink of an eye, that same 18 wheeler was inches and I mean inches from my front bumper.
By any earthly standards I should not be here.
I am living proof miracles happen.
And all I have is my word for it.
You can either believe me or not.
I can't control your mind, that's up to you.
You said you once believed in God,
why was that and what changed your mind?
Ziggy
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Jde 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
Jde 1:13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.
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