5 things God always does to a narcissist

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Good teaching- I wonder if the message will be truly heard - because it is very revealing if you are really listening x
Yes, I realised too late as well, not even sure I knew about narcissim as it’s wasn’t talked about very much.
 
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Good teaching- I wonder if the message will be truly heard - because it is very revealing if you are really listening x
Yes, I realised too late as well, not even sure I knew about narcissim as it’s wasn’t talked about very much.
Me too Rita, I was married to 2 narcissist....I thank God for my experiences though...taught me so much...plus isn’t empathy a wonderful thing..although it can be extremely painful at times..just my thoughts.
 

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Good teaching- I wonder if the message will be truly heard - because it is very revealing if you are really listening x
Yes, I realised too late as well, not even sure I knew about narcissim as it’s wasn’t talked about very much.
The church is notorious in not recognizing personality disorders and putting everything under the umbrella of sinners, not recognizing there is a scale in it and some unsaved people are kind hearted even more so than many believers.

The church also has utterly failed believers who have been damaged by narcissists even to the extent of being raised by them which causes cPTSD and does not help those to recover, instead just telling them to trust in God.

Well yes that is important, but cPTSD causes real damage physically to the nervous system included the brain and takes more than just positive thinking.
 

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Me too Rita, I was married to 2 narcissist....I thank God for my experiences though...taught me so much...plus isn’t empathy a wonderful thing..although it can be extremely painful at times..just my thoughts.
Wow RJ I was too! And raised by one. I thank God for my past as it has made me what I am now and is a gift that keeps on giving.
 

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have been damaged by narcissists even to the extent of being raised by them which causes cPTSD and does not help those to recover, instead just telling them to trust in God.

Well yes that is important, but cPTSD causes real damage physically to the nervous system included the brain and takes more than just positive thinking
Yes, I too grew up with them...they just can’t connect on that really deep level can they?

Post traumatic Stress Disorder...yep!...I can relate...onwards and upwards now, Sis...In Jesus Name..Amen!
 
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Thanks for posting that vid, @Debp .....it’s like God is reinforcing that truth to my heart.

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Post-traumatic stress disorder(PTSD) is a mental health condition that's caused by an extremely stressful or terrifying event — either being part of it or witnessing it. Symptoms may include flashbacks, nightmares, severe anxiety and uncontrollable thoughts about the event.

RJ adds...you can be brought up in the most disfunctional family on the planet...you don’t know that your family is dis functional , it’s all normal to you, especially if you never mixed much with other families....on saying that....when people were really nice to me, I thought there was something wrong with them..


God has put all that right now....I Love ,Love...and I love to Love.....still have hissy fits at times...they are slowly disappearing...Praise God...

What a great forum this is, that we can share..our past and problems ,plus grow, when we can talk so freely about such things.......a great thanks to the admin ,staff.... Iforest... @Angelina @Rita @Nancy @Heart2Soul .......for allowing us to vent...
 
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Our testimony to God....Amen!

@Hepzibah ..do you believe we were meant to go through what we went through?
No I don't and this is why - I was sexually abused by an uncle. I cannot believe that God wills for these things to happen to young children, as it not only affects them, but also the children they have later on because they suffer complex post traumatic stress disorder which is not the same thing as ordinary PTSD.

Their children end up with a parent who is too dissociated to protect them and teach them about life. And so it is passed down.

For me it was all part of being brought up with parents who did not provide a safe place for me so my nervous system was always on hyper-arousal, waiting for bad things to happen. It utterly trashed my ability to think clearly...until my recovery that is.

If I thought that God planned all of the abuse for me, I would have lost my faith.

I believe that because we live in a sinful world, we will suffer at the hands of evil men, but rather than interrupting their free wills, God allows it to happen because severe suffering can open us up to spiritual things more than an easy life and make us so much more able to help others.
 
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By the way, I believe in predestination.

We are predestined to be conformed (not saved). The saved are predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ.
 

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No I don't and this is why - I was sexually abused by an uncle. I cannot believe that God wills for these things to happen to young children, as it not only affects them, but also the children they have later on because they suffer complex post traumatic stress disorder which is not the same thing as ordinary PTSD.
I don’t believe he wills it, but God did allow it to happen, I was abused by my Grandfather, who would of had sex with me given a chance..he used to hang over my bed at night and try to passionately kiss me in his drunken stupor, I slept in the same room as him, along with my brother, I used to lay in dread of him, coming over me with his stinking breath from alcohol after a night at his local pub.....in those days, I couldn’t share with my parents, although I remember sharing with my dad, he ended up throwing him out...there are more stories from other relatives about him, as he went from family to family....he had 6 children.......only I won’t go into those
Their children end up with a parent who is too dissociated to protect them and teach them about life. And so it is passed down.

For me it was all part of being brought up with parents who did not provide a safe place for me so my nervous system was always on hyper-arousal, waiting for bad things to happen. It utterly trashed my ability to think clearly...until my recovery that is.
Same here....my nervous system was shot to pieces, of course I never knew that at the time...I only see it now, in retrospect...plus God has shown me what I went through.
If I thought that God planned all of the abuse for me, I would have lost my faith.
Ok Sis.i understand that.
I believe that because we live in a sinful world, we will suffer at the hands of evil men, but rather than interruption their free wills, God allows it to happen because severe suffering can open us up tp spiritual things more than an easy life and make us so much more able to help others.
Amen, Sis..I agree.x
 
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By the way, I believe in predestination.

We are predestined to be conformed (not saved). The saved are predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ.
Ok, I believe I was chosen, predestined to become Born Again and saved from eternal damnation...I am no longer alienated in my spirit, from my Spirit Father God...
I am being conformed into Jesus image, by the power of the Holy Spirit ,who lives in me and has birthed my spirit into His..
Spirit gives birth to spirit....
 

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I was sexually abused by an uncle
I can’t even begin to imagine what that trauma must have been like...horrendous!!...for a young child to endure...taking your innocence, the perverted ba£#@&d!!!

Joyce Meyers that tv preacher, was terribly sexually abused by her own Father...she’s always sharing about it on her channels....she’s married to a wonderful man now...Dave I think his name is..very tall man, gotta be 6 ft 3 inches.
 
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Ok, I believe I was chosen, predestined to become Born Again and saved from eternal damnation...I am no longer alienated in my spirit, from my Spirit Father God...
I am being conformed into Jesus image, by the power of the Holy Spirit ,who lives in me and has birthed my spirit into His..
Spirit gives birth to spirit....
The verse says in Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Being eternal God knows who will respond to His calling. John 1:9 says 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world which says that every man gets a chance. Most will not respond.

I did believe in the Reformed version in the past but believe God showed me the true meaning of the texts.
 

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The verse says in Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Being eternal God knows who will respond to His calling. John 1:9 says 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world which says that every man gets a chance. Most will not respond.

I did believe in the Reformed version in the past but believe God showed me the true meaning of the texts.
God opened up my heart to receive his Spirit Of Love, as His Spirit was indwelling me, he spoke/ testified with my spirit that I was God’s child, that came by the Living testimony his Living Holy Spirit....my spirit recognised the Holy Spirit testifying with my spirit straight away...it was a reuniting of my spirit back to my Father Gods Spirit..

God did it all..he brought me to repentance/ Godly sorrow, he brought me to believe initially in Jesus, then opened my heart and birthed my spirit into His...I never did anything, regarding the spiritual rebirth, that was an supernatural act of God.

Blew my mind when my spirit was birthed, I could not believe that Almighty God, chose me to be his child, I still pinch myself today...I know it’s true in my heart/ spirit, as that is where his Living testimony indwells....non stop working in my heart, all day every day...conforming me into Jesus image...bearing the fruit of the Spirit and growing in spiritual maturity.

My testimony and belief..100%.

Edit to add. I don’t understand this doctrine or reformed business, as I was birthed by the Spirit, having never read a Bible...all Glory and Power, goes to God...he took me out of a hell on earth, into his arms and his Spiritual Kingdom....that’s where my security is...100%.
 

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I was abused by my Grandfather, who would of had sex with me given a chance..he used to hang over my bed at night and try to passionately kiss me in his drunken stupor, I slept in the same room as him, along with my brother, I used to lay in dread of him, coming over me with his stinking breath from alcohol after a night at his local pub.....in those days, I couldn’t share with my parents, although I remember sharing with my dad, he ended up throwing him out...there are more stories from other relatives about him, as he went from family to family....he had 6 children.......only I won’t go into those
How awful for you :mad: At least you were believed. I did not even have the cognition to know it was wrong - I thought it was normal.
 

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God opened up my heart to receive his Spirit Of Love, as His Spirit was indwelling me, he spoke/ testified with my spirit that I was God’s child, that came by the Living testimony his Living Holy Spirit....my spirit recognised the Holy Spirit testifying with my spirit straight away...it was a reuniting of my spirit back to my Father Gods Spirit..

God did it all..he brought me to repentance/ Godly sorrow, he brought me to believe initially in Jesus, then opened my heart and birthed my spirit into His...I never did anything, regarding the spiritual rebirth, that was an supernatural act of God.

Blew my mind when my spirit was birthed, I could not believe that Almighty God, chose me to be his child, I still pinch myself today...I know it’s true in my heart/ spirit, as that is where his Living testimony indwells....non stop working in my heart, all day every day...conforming me into Jesus image...bearing the fruit of the Spirit and growing in spiritual maturity.

My testimony and belief..100%.
I share that with you - 51 years ago - and I could not believe it when I had my first encounter with the living God which showed me that Christ had died for me - imagine! that me who had been abused so much and who thought that I had little right to exist, not like others who showed up and poured out love - love which I had never known, on me.
 
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