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    Matthew 24

    I completely agree! But we also have to learn to study for ourselves and not follow doctrine that is not logical or makes no sense. After reading and studying Warren's articles on eschatology his understanding of "this generation" which aligns with what both you and TS have said, does not fit...
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    Matthew 24

    So does the chosen generation. I agree, but the evil generation Christ was addressing were of the Jews, that are of Israel. They were not the beginning of the evil generation of mankind, nor are they the end. Just as with the chosen generation, whom Christ spoke directly to, they too have...
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    What does Christ mean by 'this generation shall not pass'?

    Because his physical body was not alive! No flesh will be physically resurrected from the dead until an hour coming, when the last trumpet sounds and time shall be no longer. Daniel's ascended with Christ a spiritual body after Christ arose from the grave. Paul writes that when our body is...
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    What does Christ mean by 'this generation shall not pass'?

    You're not getting the power of the life giving Holy Spirit within you! I shall be spiritually alive after my flesh breathes its last through the power of the Spirit from Christ within me. I know this with blessed assurance because Christ has promised His Spirit will not leave us, but shall be...
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    Matthew 24

    Yes, I agree, you also are more than welcome to prove what you allege!
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    Matthew 24

    Yes, I thought I recognized the doctrine you both espouse. I am very familiar with Tony's teaching, and have learned greatly from him. I've read and studied many in fact probably most of his articles, and I too find him to be a Godly man, teaching truth, but like you, Tony too is a futurist...
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    Matthew 24

    I'm curious about both you and tribulationsigns, are both/either of you familiar with the site Mountain Retreat, moderated by Tony Warren?
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    Matthew 24

    Really? I would suggest that is you!
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    Matthew 24

    I've never said ungodly mankind shall pass away before the end of days! The focus of the Discourse is not on ungodly mankind, it is words spoken to the "chosen generation" of Christ from the first century AD to the end of days. Neither have I said the saints of Christ need to perish when all...
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    What does Christ mean by 'this generation shall not pass'?

    Christ was physically dead, but His spirit was given into the Father's hand. The spirit of Christ returned to God alive in the same way every born again believers spirit returns to God. We are alive after physical death spiritually, just as Christ was, through His Spirit within us. This is...
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    Matthew 24

    We have to understand when Christ speaks of "this generation" He is speaking of Israel. But Israel is not all in unbelief, belonging to the evil generation living among the chosen generation of Christ. Israel is only in partial blindness, with the remnant according to election of grace. You...
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    Matthew 24

    What you fail to acknowledge is how "this generation" is speaking of Israel in unbelief. Are there none among Israel when Christ came that while being of "this generation" are not also faithful disciples of Christ? While specifically speaking to "this generation" of His disciples Christ very...
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    What does Christ mean by 'this generation shall not pass'?

    We are very close in how we have come to understand the Discourse. My only question, (and I'm not saying you are wrong) regards two separate fillings of the Holy Spirit. I too believe the early rain is spiritually fulfilled after the resurrection of Christ. Before He ascended into heaven He...
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    What does Christ mean by 'this generation shall not pass'?

    I'm not sure who you're asking, but I believe "this generation" is the "chosen generation" that is inclusive of Christians from the beginning of time to the end of days.
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    What does Christ mean by 'this generation shall not pass'?

    I agree this generation is connected to the parable of the fig tree. But Christ was speaking to those living in the first century AD of things that they too must endure as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is preached unto all the world. When Christ told His disciples to "learn a parable of...
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    What does Christ mean by 'this generation shall not pass'?

    I believe Christ is giving comfort and assurance to His Church as She seeks to build the spiritual Kingdom of God as the Gospel is preached unto all the world. "This generation" is the "chosen generation" that shall never end. This generation began with the first century Jewish disciples...
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    Which view does Zechariah 14 support? Premil or Amil?

    David, the prophesy begins with: "Behold, the day of the LORD cometh..." What time period do you believe the prophet was foretelling to come? Was he foretelling a single day that was coming, or is "day" here to be understood as a period of time? Is the prophet speaking literally or...
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    Matthew 24

    If you believe this, why do you argue against the chosen generation as "this generation" Christ said would not pass until all these things shall be fulfilled?
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    Matthew 24

    Enough said period! I have said what I believe you futurists deny from Scripture. This is not the first time I've danced this dance with futurists who think they have greater understanding of spiritual truths, then anyone else. So, they (futurists) reject the FACT that Christ spoke these...
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    Matthew 24

    I agree! "This generation" should not be exclusively assigned to first century Jewish disciples of Christ. But why do futurists feel the need to exclude them from "this generation"? It's funny really, how futurists go to great lengths trying to prove "this generation" is the evil and...