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  1. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    According to the Letter to the Smyrnaeans by 1st century Bishop, Ignatius of Antioch – the 1st century Chu8irch DID resemble the Catholic Church of today . . . Ignatius of Antioch “Follow your bishop, every one of you, as obediently as Jesus Christ followed the Father. Obey your clergy too as...
  2. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    There was ONE Church – the WHOLE Church (Acts 9:311). That’s where we get the word “Catholic”. There was ONE Church in MANY locations (Ephesus, Rome, Corinth, etc). Furthermore -= -the Didache, which was once considered to be Scripture itself, does NOT contain a list of the Books of Scripture...
  3. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    WRONG. As I warned you before – you cannot get past Epignosis (Rom. 11:22, Heb. 10:26-27). These verses say that you can gave a full, experiential and relational knowledge with Christ – much like a spouse – and LOSE it. He IS faithful. He DOES keep His promises – IF we cooperate. He will NOT...
  4. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Go back and check the thread yourself . . .
  5. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    WRONG. There was NO Canon of Scripture (Bible) until it was compiled and declared by the 300 year-old Church. It was the Church, led by the Holy Spirit who decided which Books belonged in the Canon – and which Books did NOT. Prior to this – there were MANY individual canons (lists) – but NONE...
  6. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    As I have repeatedly show you – that’s NOT what the Bible says in context. (Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom. 11:22, 1 Cor. 4:4, 1 Cor. 9:27, 1 Cor. 10:12, 1 Tim. 4:1, 1 Tim. 4:16, 2 Tim. 2:12, Heb. 3:6, Heb. 3:12-14, Heb. 6:4-6, Heb. 10:26-27, 2 Pet...
  7. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Correction: The Bible came out of the Church – NOT the other way atound. There was a Church for 300 years before the the Canon of Scrioture was declared. And I never said there was . . . Church teaching didn’t end with the original Apostles. If that were the case – there would be no Canon of...
  8. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Hardly . . . "Hijacked"?? My firstpoat on this thread was to clear u an anti-Catholic faksehood. I don't "hijack" threafs. I simply respond and correct when I see lies bing posted . . .
  9. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    And the teachings of the Apostles aare the teachings of the Church.
  10. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Continued . . . I thought we were . . . If the shoe fits . . . Why else would you claim that I couldm't present ANY Biblical evidence? You can disagree with my evidence – but to say that I didn’t provide any is dishonest. Okay – so you disagree. You cannot say, however, that I didn’t or...
  11. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Correct – He doesn’t take away our gift.. But, He allows us to accept it - or reject it. Ummmmm, the same disciples who were the first leaders of the Church. First of all – The Council of Nicaea did NOT decide the Canon of Scripture. It dealt largely with the Arian heresy. Secondly, you are...
  12. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Who’s “we”? The Church’s original doctrines were discarded and/or perverted some 1500 years later during the Protestant rebellion
  13. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    That claim is based on 2Thess 3.14, which YOU posted. Go back 1 chapter earlier to 2 Thess. 2:15 and read what Paul says about the Church’s teachings: 2 Thess 2:15 "Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a LETTER from US." The “US” he is...
  14. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Then, instead of little hit-and-run remarks like that - prove me wrong . . .
  15. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    And we are told over and over. “…provided you remain in His Kindness” “…he who endures” “…but he who stands firm to the end” "If you hold to my teaching…” “…unless you remain in me” “…if we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast” Tell that to all of the apostate Christians. You...
  16. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    Paul is writing to the CHURCH at Thessalonica. What's your point?
  17. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    We were having a fairly charitable conversation – and now you have resorted to being dishonest. I have given you verse after verse to challenge what I consider to be the false Protestant belief of Eternal Security. (Matt. 7:19-23, Matt. 10:22, Matt. 24:13, Matt. 25:31–46, John 15:1-6, Rom...
  18. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    First of all – the Catholic Church DID declare the Canon of Scripture, guided by the Holt Spirit (John 16:12-15). The Synod of Rome (382) is where the canon was first formally identified – ALL 73 (not 66) Books. - 11 years after that, it was confirmed at the Synod of Hippo (393). - 4 years...
  19. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    The Bible doesn’t even claim this about itself . . . Paul writes that the CHURCH is the “pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim. 3:15). Jesus handed over ALL Authority to His Church, to be led by the Holy Spirit (John 16:12-15, Luke 10:16). In Matt. 18:15-18 – Jesus tells His Apostles that...
  20. BreadOfLife

    The Doctrines of Grace

    No - I’m simply showing the massive holes in the false Protestant doctrine of Eternal Security . . .