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  1. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (Wakka;15733) Well I found this. Give your comment on it. It seems to somewhat explain what I'm trying to tell you.And this:And most importantly: There is a lot of anguish before one is killed/burnt up by fire. If you are in a burning building and the fire is getting closer and hotter, and there...
  2. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (Faithful1;15731) We will live peacefully in paradice earth, no more satan's temptation either. Believe me, when we have been gloried Satan would not be a match for us anyway.Here is a prophecy about Satan's end and what some of us will say about him, when we see him.Isaiah 14:12-20 (KJV) 12 How...
  3. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (Wakka;15725) How can God just let them cease to exist? Justice must be served. God is just. He will see to it that the ones who aren't in the book of life are punished. God isn't all love. He's a serious, almighty, and powerful. He's the same God that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah. And God is...
  4. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (Wakka;15720) Alright. I'm not trying to be a false prophet or anything. I'm just confused. And I'm having a rough time accepting that God will not punish those who chose not to repent. The death given from the original sin was a fleshly death. But our souls live. That's the way I see it.This is...
  5. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (ÐøÞÞlégäñgèr;15713) I don't believe the 2nd death is eternal I believe it is final.Deu 4:24 For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.Deu 9:3 Understand therefore this day, that the LORD thy God is he which goeth over before thee; as a consuming fire he shall destroy them...
  6. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (Wakka;15704) I'm talking about the place after the second death. Eternal suffering. Right now there is the prison. And then there will be eternal hell after the second death.And that isn't eternal?Revelations 20:1010.And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone...
  7. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (ÐøÞÞlégäñgèr;15683) Well, heres how I see it, and I could take your position and agrue it also. For one, these things aren't easily argued and must be thought out logically in every sense possible, since the Bible doesn't outright tell us, and we have to guess somewhat at it, because we will...
  8. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (Faithful1;15676) Thank you V24 for your information. there are many interpretations and confusions. We just have to do our best to decide which one is going along with the whole context of God's love. Yours doesn't seem not so bad and is going along with the whole context too.love, hitomi...
  9. verzanumi24

    Does God still love Jews?

    (E Nomine;15652) To be judged and thrown into Hell--not to be given a second chance. No not the vast majority of them......I will give you scriptures proving my point, but right now I am getting ready fro work.
  10. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (Faithful1;15655) Salvation is eternal life. Adam and Eve were supposed to have eternal life if they did not sin against God. they were living on paradise earth. They were not living on heaven. By getting salvation we will have eternal life just like Adam and Eve had. Jesus is giving us...
  11. verzanumi24

    The Rapture Of The Church

    (ÐøÞÞlégäñgèr;15651) I disagree. God will return us to the earth that was. Spirit is just the intellect of the soul. Revelation is Genesis in reverse. Spirit as you call them can be seen if they want to, and you can perceive them. You haven't proved anything to me. There is no difference between...
  12. verzanumi24

    Does God still love Jews?

    (MickinEngland;15625) Agreed, as long as there's breath in our bodies, God loves us, but if we die a nonchristian, that love is CUT OFF at that instant and we're doomed.Therefore each Jew and nonchristian has got until the point of death to repent.. I'm sorry to disagree with you but that's not...
  13. verzanumi24

    The Rapture Of The Church

    (ÐøÞÞlégäñgèr;15601) Fine whatever, But to me there is no difference.A (spirit)ual body is just that a transfigured body. Besides you said your flesh would be raised. trans·fig·ure (trns-fgyr)tr.v. trans·fig·ured, trans·fig·ur·ing, trans·fig·ures 1. To alter the outward appearance of; transform...
  14. verzanumi24

    Animals in Heaven?

    (HolyWarrior;15582) You getting all worked up about casual conversation :naughty: You sure you wouldn't be happier as a Convert or Die Muslim or something!!! If that's what you call it, by all means continue
  15. verzanumi24

    The Rapture Of The Church

    (ÐøÞÞlégäñgèr;15579) Yes, I read your posts. I think you don't understand. Christ had on his incorruptable body on. Thats why he appeared before the disciples the way he did, and why the men on the road did not notice him. I certainly did not say or imply that we will still be in our corruptible...
  16. verzanumi24

    Does God still love Jews?

    (Carico;15549) I still get angry at secular people who try to blame Pilate for Christ's death when Pilate washed his hands of Christ's blood and gave the Jews the choice of what to do with Jesus. I realize that since the Jews have been persecuted (which God said he would do in punishment of the...
  17. verzanumi24

    The Rapture Of The Church

    (kriss;15547) Heaven will be on earth flesh and blood can not enter heaven1 Corinthians 15:50I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable A person who has been glorified can enter Heaven, if he/she...
  18. verzanumi24

    The Rapture Of The Church

    (ÐøÞÞlégäñgèr;15543) And What do the dead do? But sleep, God doesn't care about your crappy body. It's ridiculious to believe that God would raise up, say Paul's or Peter's old Body. The Parable of the Rich Man proves this, as Eliazar is seen by the rich man on the other side of the gulf by him...
  19. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (gibby;15553) Yes, that is right...thank you. But fear if you are against Him and He reveals HImself to you. correct!
  20. verzanumi24

    Wake up call - What hell is like

    (gibby;15539) Matthew 10:28Proverbs 1:7Fear of the Lord 692 resultsThis would be the same type of fear that a son has of his father, especially when he does wrong. The son knows that his father loves him and a father disciplines his son. How much more we should fear our heavenly Father and His...