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(thesuperjag;16801) If you want to put it that way, Yes Lucifer is god of this world (II Corinthians 4:4) I hope you can clearly see that the angels in those verses are only referring to fallen angels. Not ALL angels. There is no reason why I would believe it was referring to the other...

(thesuperjag;16799) You are clearly twisting scriptures as you are making my soul weary. (sp?) Not only that you also avoided my question which I will say again. And I suppose you think YHWH created more souls after Lucifer sinned? no?Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour...

(thesuperjag;16795) YHWH did NOT give Lucifer the Earth. Lucifer was just the highest archangel alive, He was suppose to protect God's throne, but instead he want to sit God's throne. And I suppose you think YHWH created more souls after Lucifer sinned? no?Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua)...

(thesuperjag;16793) Then I take the fact that you believe there is no Time Gap for scriptures between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, no?Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour. Well yes there is...but when God first created the earth it was given to Lucifer and his angels. Man...

(thesuperjag;16791) I doubt that you knew that we existed in the first earth age, our soul existed, not our flesh bodies.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour. That's you saying it...no such things is mentioned in the Bible, Old or New Testament.

(kriss;16787) This is ridicoulous it has nothing to do with the word its the meaning of what the subject was we were discussing you are behaving like a child and Im not going to play games with you heres the post in question answer it or dont but stop Games talking in circles changing the...

(Joyful;16788) The NT is not saying this. Show me in the NT. Your interpretation is out of context with NT and Jesus. You sound like universalist.You are adding more than what Jesus said.:naughty: If one is going to study the Bible you cannot leave the Old Testament out.2 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)...

(kriss;16785) So basically you have no answer except to nit pic over a the word the imortal, eternal when know perfectly well what I was saying I have run across this before people who have no answers or think they are experts make excuses by nit picking the ridicoulous little errs of words or...

(thesuperjag;16781) Clearly from Satan.Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour. Yes I know, but I am equally certain that they would give us a diiferent answer. I would love for someone who believe that Mary is alive to give us there explanation.

(kriss;16780) 1.Fisrt of all I never used the word Imortal soul you did if yoiu can prove God did foreknow us or there was no first age or we did not exist as spirit then you do so. If you can explain Gods plan without us having a soul then do so. 2.Again prove that we are not in spirit bodies...

(thesuperjag;16767) That is an indeed a completely a true statement. Lovest thou in Christ Jesus (Yahshua) our Lord and Saviour.:blessyou: Where do those who believe that Mary is alive get there belief from?

(Joyful;16772) When all judging is done, God's reign will come with perfect peace. Nothing about most people will be saved. You should know that Bible does not contradict itself. You are trying to prove NT lied.:eek: If you notice it says Nations shall not lift up sword against...

(Joyful;16765) I am refuting what you said; You said most people will be saved at the end. that's not what Jesus is saying. Jesus says "Narrow is the gate that leads to life and only a few find it."This is what I am refuting here. All you are doing is quoting your own addition of salvation...

(Joyful;16764) You expressed your interpretation, I am expressing mine. Press on! What's to interpret? I believe when it says all it means all. If it says all, then how can it mean some? When the Bible say Jonah was swolled by a great fish, should I say it means something else? Should I put my...

(kriss;13135) There are many things that the Catholic Church is not disclosing regarding these 'visions' and 'conversations' with the deceased person Mary. For instance, below we observe apparitions of "Our Lady" that the Church is not disclosing, recounting two such evil 'visions' claiming to...

(Joyful;16760) YHWH and Jesus believers and all over the world. Of course they will worship YHWH. It says all Nations, it does not say some individuals in those Nations.

(Joyful;16759) Here you go again, more verses that have nothing to do with salvation. Those are just prophesies.You expressed yours and I expressed mine. I will go to next verse. Please don't dwell on the same kind of verses. We don't have to go in a circle, do we? You still have not disproven...

(Joyful;16757) This has nothing to do with everone's salvation. Only people who overcome will have salvation. You are interpreting that they will be the rulers of disobedience. disobedience will perish like Jesus is saying. "for God so love the world that He gave His Son who ever believe in...

(kriss;16726) Yes,I know this its how I learned precept upon precept I dont quite get your point of quoting it here as an answer to my post are you suggesting this is some revelation I dont know??? There are some things that some Christians may have difficulty in understanding because they have...

(Joyful;16706) All you did is just list up a bunch of verses; even satan argued against Jesus quoting Scpriture. Like I said, I can explain and you wont let me because you dont want me to prove it to you?All verses needs interpretations. Then why are you taking so long? You can respond to all or...