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  1. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    He didn't say "you" are God. The Greek basically means "the God of me" which according to John 20:17 would be the Father.
  2. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Bowing down to Jesus isn't in reference to being God. See Philippians 2:10,11 that prove Jesus doesn't get any glory for it. Hebrews 1 also says this in verse 5: 5For to which of the angels did God[YHWH] ever say: “You are My Son;[Jesus] today I have become Your Father”[YHWH] That means Jesus...
  3. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    It should be limited to the church because the Bible repeatedly says Jesus isn't the Sovereign Lord and Creator of heaven and earth. Let's put it like this, if you walked into a donut shop said "I'll have all things." You may get a strange look, but they would undoubtedly know you were wanting...
  4. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Prove it then. There is nothing in Hebrews 1 about Jesus being God. Like you've been doing? Your talking points have been all over the place. You've gone from Thomas, to worship, to Jesus being resurrected, to YHWH, to talking about hell, to Colossians 1, to using strawman arguments. What's...
  5. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    The scripture does not contradict itself. Jesus was clear about who Thomas' God is and who the only true God is. Paul was generalizing in the context of the church. "All things" or "everything" doesn't often apply to literally every thing. The "by" you keep using is more appropriately...
  6. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Anyone can quote scripture removed from context. The context is about Thomas' God being the Father. Thomas' God is the same God as Jesus' God. Jesus isn't his own God. Therefore Thomas' God isn't Jesus. John 20 17“Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But...
  7. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    That only mentions 3 persons. So you couldn't deliver?
  8. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Not according to scripture. John 20:17 Jesus said their God is the Father. When Thomas said "my God" in John 20:28 he wasn't calling Jesus God. No one in the Bible believed Jesus is God. It doesn't exist. No sir. Colossians 1:15 says Jesus is the "image of the invisible God" therefore Jesus...
  9. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Oh this should be good. Please show us the scripture that contradicts the Bible's teachings on eternal life given to those who are saved.
  10. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Jesus said Thomas' God is the Father in John 20:17. Please show us where the word "you" appears in John 20:28 lol Where? Where?
  11. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Strawman. According to scripture, the gospel is for eternal life. Those with eternal life don't live forever in hell. Sorry, your presentation of your beliefs don't align with scripture.
  12. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    But Thomas' God is the Father according to scripture. The Father is the only true God (John 17:3) and Thomas didn't say "You" are my God. So the context isn't about Jesus being Thomas' God. Jesus didn't say he's God, no one in the Bible believed Jesus is God. Acts 4:24-27, Peter and John both...
  13. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Who? You believe those in hell receive the gift of eternal life? One of us is indeed not reading the Bible.
  14. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    In John 20:17 Jesus said of his brothers (the disciples) that their God is the Father. Therefore, when Thomas said "my God" in John 20:28 Thomas was referring to the Father, not that Jesus is God.
  15. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I am just using Biblical arguments. That's why I don't really have a problem with the JWs. Is the fire eternal or is the punishment in hell eternal? Let's put it this way, the gospel is clear that only those who receive the gift of eternal life will live forever. Do you agree? Therefore, those...
  16. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Correct and Jesus was never worshipped as God, but bowed down to in honor. True worship is spirit and truth, not bowing. Jesus only taught Christians to worship the Father in spirit and truth, therefore Jesus was never worshipped as God. (John 4)
  17. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I am not a JW, but I do understand that those who just bow down are not actually worshipping in the way Jesus instructed them to. Bowing down with a heart far from God really means nothing. Does that make sense?
  18. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    That doesn't mean Jesus is God either. When Jesus is bowed to in heaven, earth, or under earth he doesn't get any glory for it. The glory only goes to God who is the Father. Philippians 2 10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11and every...
  19. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I would also add that the kind of bowing down to that God ordered His angels to give to the Son was for the glory of the Father (Philippians 2:10,11) but the kind of worship that Jesus taught Christians to give was of the order of "spirit and truth" to the Father only in John 4:23,24. So true...
  20. Runningman

    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    The Bible says God is immortal (1 Tim 1:17, 6:16) yet in what you quoted Jesus said he was dead. That would, in turn, based on that alone, mean that Jesus wasn't immortal and isn't God because immortal means someone can't die, ever. How does that expose a twisting of the scripture by JWs? The...