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    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    The problem is that you weren't quoting from modern translations. You quoted from the KJV which is among the ones you listed. I'll show it again for you: Revelation 11:15 (KJV) And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become...
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    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    You know not what you speak of! If no resurrection has yet taken place, what would you call Jesus being raised from the dead? If there is no resurrection yet taken place, why does Christ say, "I am the resurrection and the life"? Christ is the "first resurrection" and when we have part in...
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    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    You're not reading the same Bible that I am if you think that ALL the promises God gave to Abraham's seeds (many) have not already been fulfilled when they took possession of the Promised Land in the days of Joshua. The promise to Abraham regarding his SEED (Christ) has been and is being...
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    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    Show a single verse that says the physical promised land of Caanan given to the seeds of Abraham is the Kingdom of heaven???
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    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    You didn't answer the question. I didn't ask when the kingdoms (plural not one as you change the verse) of this world would become the kingdoms of Christ. I asked: "Where is the Kingdom of God that cannot NOW, in this world be seen or entered through flesh & blood be found after the first...
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    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    Mortals, or unsaved human beings are invading the Kingdom of God now in this age of time when they join in membership with human beings who have been born again and have eternal life through Christ's Spirit in them. IOW both goats and sheep outwardly in membership together. It is AFTER the...
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    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    Where is Christ's Kingdom found if not in the world? Where will the angels be sent to gather out of His Kingdom all who do not belong there? I agree that the angels shall gather 'out' those who do not belong in His Kingdom to be cast into the furnace of fire, but gathered out from where...
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    No mortals will survive the second coming of Christ

    The Kingdom of God, through the Words of Christ: Luke 17:20-21 (KJV) And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    I realize pointing out certain things to you is pointless, because like my last reply to you in this thread you will simply ignore, just as Davidpt did. I find this a common practice of some Premillennialists. You don't answer when shown how you have NOT rightly divided Scripture, because you...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    I know that you are aware that there is more than one book written in heaven. Not only is there the Lamb's book of life, but there is also the book of the living, and a book of remembrance, books that record the deeds of all the dead, and the living. When people die their names are blotted out...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    "You are both fighting truth and twisting truth." - WPM I may be wrong SI, but I don't think WPM was referring to the two of you, but rather saying that David is fighting against truth and twisting the truth. IOW without understanding because he fights against truth and twists the truth also.
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    It depends on who you think "them" refers to? Do you believe Gentiles of faith are grafted into natural branches of Israel that were broken off through "unbelief"? Or are Gentiles of faith grafted into natural branches of Israel that were of the election of grace and eternally saved? Romans...
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    The only way Amil can remotely be Biblical is if NOSAS isn't Biblical.

    How is that not true if one believes the biblical doctrine of eternal security (OSAS)? All/whosoever having part in the first resurrection has overcome the second death (OSAS). And not one of them after having part in the first resurrection is not already eternally secure (OSAS) in the...
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    Are the trumpets and vials running in parallel like some insist?

    David, when we take a picture of our children, we typically do so as they grow and change into what sometimes appears to be a totally different person. The picture of a newborn babe looks quite different than they do at 5 years of age. We take pictures from differing angles, or perspectives...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    David, 1. What was the occasion that caused the devil's great wrath? 2. Isn't his great wrath because he could not devour the Christ-child as soon as He was born? 3. Wasn't attempting to devour Christ at birth the reason behind the war in heaven between Michael and his angels and the...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    Be careful thinking you will get true biblical understanding from those with a bias to prove! Here are a few verses that seem to be saying the mystery that had not been known in ages past, that has now been made known through Christ is that the Kingdom of God will be complete when every...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    If the Kingdom of God is on this earth when God sends down fire from heaven to utterly burn up everything on the earth with every living inhabitant, how could that which is physical be exempt from the fiery wrath of God? That's not how eternal/everlasting/forever is defined. Where in Scripture...
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    When do you believe the 70th week of years begins?
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    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    The 70th week of years cannot be divided from the 490 weeks of years when Messiah the Prince would come to fulfill the six things spoken in vs. 24. If we separate the one final seven years week from the 490 weeks of years, the things Messiah the Prince came to accomplish would be 483 weeks of...
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    Some key points pertaining to the parable per Luke 19:11-27.

    Yes, God does use man to accomplish His will! Even the Son of God became a man to accomplish all the Father ordained He would from before the foundation of the world. Which is why it is written, "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."