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Candidus Nice to see someone new here posting. :) This has been a topic "discussed" for hundreds of years with sometimes "HOSTILE" attacks and sometimes with love but agreeing to disagree. I'm in the second group as I have studied this way too long, 42 years, and see way too many "VALIDATING"...

Did you ever wonder if they are ALL included and work TOGETHER, instead of being one or the other?? All those verses are from God and they either are all correct or we HAVE A PROBLEM. My name is OLIGOS

....but SALVATION IS ALSO CONDITIONAL. (Paul speaks of salvation.). Now you have to understand that this has always been a DEVISIVE TOPIC, and always will be. My title of this thread and my explaination here are my HEART FELT beliefs from scriptures, but not meant to be forced on anyone here...

Love this topic 42 years ago becoming a Christian was about being "BORN AGAIN" or about "CONVERSION. The term "Being saved" was never used as there were/are too many variations and meanings and conditions for salvation . Today you can; Invite Jesus into your heart or be saved by grace or be...

Great posts. Thank you all for your input. It will be a good day of study. God bless your day. My name is OLIGOS

PLANOWORLDSTAGE :) Man am I glad you posted this . I have some REAL CONTROVERSIAL OPINIONS that may not have been put together before. Boy am I gonna get attacked on this one. But I will be full of LOVE and KINDNESS on every reply. I love all of you, so why wouldn't I answer in LOVE - IT'S...

Thanks so much FHII Your right that 1st Corinthians 13 is a major player even at just the beginning of this study. Acts like a nice start for a good foundation to move forward on. I hope by morning there is more imput to help me have plenty to consider for my study. Thanks again for helping me...

Very good Paul Christensen. Thank you so much. I will add that verse to my studies. God bless you my friend. My name is OLIGOS

Thank you TAKEN. Very LOVING and KIND of you :). God bless My name is OLIGOS

Hello everyone. I was recently shocked when I read a verse that I have read who knows how many times in my 42 years as a Christ follower, but had never connected to it's possible significance, until this last time I read it yesterday, because of a topic being discussed here on the forum. The...

Thank you Giuliano :). My name is OLIGOS

If you look at it one way, it's actually helping the body of Christ she because war is forcing us to grow up into greater maturity as a body. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Hidden In Him< Your so right. We have to learn, with God's help, how to...

I'm not a fighter or looking for trouble. You said your a Christian and you believe in evolution. How does that work?? Could you explain that to me please? God bless you. My name is OLIGOS

I read this as a quote from a famous pastor from ages ago. "VIOLENT MEN, either physical or verbal, are about men who are week and powerless in character." My name is OLIGOS

Thank you Marks :) I haven't really studied this idea of "DIVISIONS" being necessary in the BODY until today, but the thought comes to mind about the tares and the wheat growing together until the harvest. I have been studying 1st Corinthians 11:18-19 this morning by Paul who said, "For in the...

I have a question. There are so many beliefs in this world including those who are against any kind of Christian view points, and so many seem to be attacking each other as an accepted way to communicate at a pretty high level, which I don't understand. Why not express your beliefs that...

Luv the cat.