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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    So if those were once outside of Christ are in Christ, then anyone in Christ when they get in Christ would be considered...foreknew as well...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    2 things How is one Foreknew in that context: The same people who were once dead in sin..are His people
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    What dies scripture say here? In Romans 10 12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Please answer: How was Paul to be Baptized here? 14Then he said, ‘The God of our fathers has appointed you to know His will, and to see the Righteous One, and to hear His voice. 15You will be His witness to everyone of what you have seen and heard. 16And now what are you waiting for? Get up...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Whoever passes with A's and receives their report card will go to the next class; but whoever doesn't pass with an A's will be held back. So look what the latter does not say. It never mentions...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross” (Colossians 1:19-20) Here is one to look at....but "through Him"
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Anyway this was fun, something to think on..God Bless ya all!
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    And it's obvious you are not nice....so where has this knowledge brought ya?
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    However (lol) the same people He called to holiness..that were once dead in sin...He could use to make jealous those not yet called that could also be called to Holiness.... Therefore if those who became part of the church through belief were once dead and outside the church...than the others...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    However [smile] When the disciples preached Christ through His death and ressurrection. The preaching of the cross must have been for all people. But if it fell on death ears, could it be because of where their hearts were. Therefore the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those who are...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Those abided under the old Cov...could also be the church as well seeing the passage Farouk brought up...Christ was the rock in symbol...And where He set before He came to earth is Key... Death Cannot hold life....God is Life... Thank God He is the consummation of all things...The reason then...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    I do not know all the scriptures...But right now He seems to be winning this argument. Because if the new Cov..has its beginnings that start now on earth...to Govern those on earth to the fullness of life. Then when is the blood applied to sin? To those in Christ or outside of Christ.
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Who does God Draw to Christ? There are passages that suggest it is those who believe ...and do righteous... First Passage:John 6 35Jesus answered, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to Me will never hunger, and whoever believes in Me will never thirst. 36But as I stated, you have seen Me...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Then again..what is the Diff. Between Spirit of God and Spirit of Christ?
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    From this above...and I could be wrong...but it was in receiving the word that it seems they received the spirit. And the evidence was what flowed out of them...tongues. So correct me if I be wrong.. For when I see this passage my thought change from the above: 14When the apostles in...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    I thought the ones who received the word Were added to the church. This also makes me think about this passage: 4Paul explained: “John’s baptism was a baptism of repentance. He told the people to believe in the One coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”5On hearing this, they were baptized into...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    The church are the body, members of Christ..those I would assume that do the work of Christ by the Spirit of God?...what do you think? But the Spirit is not given until After Christ arose...and shown after His ascension..correct?
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Was the Spirit Given to those who are the church? And when was the Spirit promised?
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Another words did the church begin before His death? Could they be added to the church before His death and resurrection? So is one saying Jesus's death and resurrection has nothing to do with the church?
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    But how did people get added to the church before they were not of the church?