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I guess if that happened to someone they wouldn't even think about what was happening to them. How could they think in a language they never learned? :contemplate:

Yeah. What's that? :rolleyes:

Where do you get that Christians believe that the biblical account of what happened in Eden is not literal? Just because some "Christians" have been misled by atheist-infested false biblical scholarship does not mean that they have had any influence on how true Christians view the Bible. Come...

Unless you want to run in circles and want everything to be repeated again and again For not dying no one needs to be immortal. Eternal life is enough.

He lost the eternal life he was created with.

In that text he refers to the Jews who did not accept him as the Messiah sent by God. Jesus was sent specifically to the Jews because the promises of the kingdom were made to them first. Relatively very few accepted him.

Maybe the problem is you think on "sin" in the sense of voluntary sin, but there is involuntary sin, whose reasons are precisely that our bodies are imperfect. Many physical or mental illnesses cause specific behaviors. To deny that would be to blind oneself to reality. Since we have...

Then do you think what I just said is not true?

Not necessarily. Have you never done something that you later say "I did without thinking"? Emotions, feelings, hormones, enzymes, physical or mental illnesses, etc., are not rationalized; They affect our bodies and cause attitudes that are sometimes uncontrollable and actions that are...

No for human creation. God told Adam: Gen. 2:16 (...) “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction. 17 But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.” The opposite is a logical deduction from...

It happened first to their minds (they knew they were naked), and the consequences spread to their bodies as God told them: they grew old and finally died.

The sin of Adam and Eve did not come from imperfect and weak bodies, but from their minds, a conscious reasoning that led Eve to desire the fruit, and then another on Adam's part to share with his wife. A perfect person can consciously decide to disobey God. The Devil was a perfect spirit, and...

Because there was nothing else equivalent with what was lost. The death of an imperfect man was not enough, many animals sacrifices were not enough, no matter how much gold you collect it wouldn't be enough, no matter how much scented incense you light wouldn't have been enough. Again: Psal...

If you read the story you will realize that Satan told Eve that God was lying to her. He told her that they would not die if they ate the fruit, that they would be like God. In those few words he meant that God's rule was unjust, and that he was purposely taking away something that was good for...

I think that is part of the laws of existence: everything has a price. Psal. 49:6 Those who are trusting in their wealth And who boast about their great riches, 7 None of them can ever redeem a brother Or give to God a ransom for him, 8 (The ransom price for their life is so precious That it is...

The Bible doesn't support that doctrine. Immortality is a prize that only some persons receive. If someone is living forever without dying, wherever it is, that is immortality. It is evidently a false doctrine: 1 Cor. 15:53 For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this...

Both are true. Only after the first kind of resurrection a dead person (a brother of Jesus and no one else) go with him and is granted immortality. Again: AFTER THEIR RESURRECTION, not at the moment of death. Most dead Christians will be resurrected on earth, like John the Baptist: Matt...

The way Jehovah brings us out of that state is by offering his son as a sacrifice. It is like paying a very large debt that someone has to pay. The offense of our first parents was very serious when they took the side of the spirit that called God a liar. The consequences of that rebellion have...

Exact. If our bodies continued to be perfect, taking care of ourselves, we could live forever, as newly created bodies, without defects. Adam's sin was a communicable defect. This defect causes us to not function correctly and end up dying in a "natural" way, because from Adam we inherit the...

The Bible has the definition: John 5:26 For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself. It is life that does not depend on external factors. It never ends and nothing can stop it. The afterlife of the dead is a myth. It would be like...