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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    The group you are referring to are emotionally provoked and skilled at provoking others. What I have discovered is the polar arguments become repetitive and never end. Words only have their meaning because of their interpreted context. So different contexts change the meaning of simple phrases...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Gods speaks, His intentions are his own. Jesus spoke of the yeast of the pharisees. He was not talking about how they made bread, but about their hypocrisy that worked through everything they said and did, the emotional meaning of the show and what actually went on behind the scenes. In...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    I take from your statement your idea of sin is that it is part of us being human. If Jesus was human, in the fullest sense, fully a male with all the hormones and desires we all have, how was He without sin? If we are called to walk like Jesus, to be transformed in our walk to be light to the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I do not want to nitpick, but if you use terms like 3.5 years you are talking as if this is scientific years, months, days, rather than a symbolic term. Equally in Revelation it is spoken of the 144,000 as if this an exact number rather than a symbol of completion and finishing of the destiny...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    There is an ironic twist here. A person can be without sin. But to state they are without sin is self worth, and liable to self deception, because it is saying God finds no offence in their life. It is to be noted sacrifices were continual given in the temple for the sin of the people, in...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    My wondering is simple. If we saw the future in detail then we could change it so therefore we cannot see but that which is unclear, suggestions to help our attitudes as we go forwards to it. Jesus says He will return, and it will be unknown to those at that time until it happens. So the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am getting too old to be definitive about the future except meeting Jesus, Amen.
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    You made me think. Jesus was sinless because He was God. He gave up the attributes of God, to prove His nature overcomes sin not His status. His promise and offer of hope to us, is His way if we follow will lead to us also overcoming as He did. If there is no overcoming, how can we be...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Hi Mailmandan, Being fair to you, if someone believes in a different context to yourself, they are not ignoring "the context" but have a different context to yourself. The danger of these interactions is the echo chamber of either position when both have issues with them. Jesus says the elect...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. 1 Thess 4:17 30 It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    "I see you" is a phrase used in the film Avatar, about seeing the individual within. Jesus says many things that are emotional reality not factual reality. To know someone factually you have had an exchange of information, an encounter. To know someone emotionally is to have an emotional...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    What did Jesus say is the sign of a fellowship of believers? 35 "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." John 13:35 This is about transformed lives enabling a community to know and love one another through Christs work in their lives. It is not a belief...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    Jesus called us to be like Him. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they will be filled. Matt 5:6 If one thinks this is like an exam to pass, using all we are as people to aspire to the point is missed. A musician grows a new part of the brain to handle the nuances...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    If the folk arguing "if" does not apply to them, which appears to be the case, they are not believers. A person is alive because their heart beats. If their heart does not beat, no "if"s will bring them alive. I was struck by a reality of the Kingdom of heaven the other day. A dictator wants to...
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    The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

    I was struck by something. When another becomes your everything, ones focus is what upsets the other or brings them joy is a driver of ones own behaviour. My brother, an insecure quiet man got married. For the first time in his life, he was very careful what he said, how he said it and what his...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I grew up with films about the anti-christ and the rapture, and it was all about do not be caught out, be part of the raptured group. The films emphasised the horrendous society that will come. Many churches felt when persecution came to their congregations which was like the anti-Christ this...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Jesus said to judge teachers by their fruit. The fruit of the spirit is joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, love.... The fruit of premillennialism is fear, is security in wealth and being part of the church now and tragedy that will fall on others but not us. It exalts people who claim...
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    OSAS Declares Jesus not Enough Not to Sin

    This is so true. I would suggest they do not understand love or how love is a discussion about care, meaning and sensitivity. In a marriage you do not stop being attracted to other partners, you choose to honour your commitments. But being attracted to others is not sin, following it to...
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    Is smoking a sin?

    The problem with people caught in sin and conflicting emotion, is their release is drugs which changes their mood. As believers we can demand conformity to our culture or outward show while missing the power of Jesus transforming people so the need for this manipulation is removed. There are...
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    The Resurrection is for all people (thank you Yeshua!)

    Thank you for clarifying. It is helpful to think of love as a feeling towards another or intention. It is balanced with other issues, feelings and intensions. If one talks only factually destroying people in the lake of fire is not kindness or doing good to them. Some of scripture calls this...