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Paul's writing clearly reveals the rapture, or 'caught up' event. The debate on when it will happen could be settled if we determine why it is necessary. So why do you think believers must be removed from the scene for a time?

So what then is the 'new man' that we become, 'Spiritual Israelite?' Look more like a 'refurbished' man. What was Adam, an Israelite, a Jew, a Gentile? or a new man? Are you as a Spiritual Israelite Torah compliant?

Ekklesia, the Greek word mistranslated as 'church,' means 'called out to assemble to govern' (as shown in Acts 19). Called out of what? The world? Out of Judaism? Called into Israel? What were Israelites called out of?

Yes, you can become an Israelite, a proselyte, but it's all the way or no way. Get circumcised and place yourself under "a yoke that neither our ancestors nor we have been able to bear." And then what? Do you have any added benefits over a Gentile who has placed himself under the Lordship of...

None of your scripture references say we become Israelites. You wrote, "How much more clear can this be that the two (Jew and Gentile believers) have already become one new man? It says Jesus "has made the two groups one" and that we are now "fellow citizens" in the church with Jesus as the...

While that is true, it's not what that scripture tells us.

Judging by your online name, you believe that when we come to faith in Jesus, we become spiritual Israelites. If that's the case, how can the two become one NEW man since we are all Israelites? I think the two becoming one happens at the marriage supper of the lamb when the body of Christ (the...

You missed the point! Paul writes that all Israel will be saved. That's only possible, as you point out, by them coming to a saving knowledge of Yeshua, who is the only way to the Father. I'm suggesting that when this happens for Israel, God's everlasting and exclusive covenant with them will be...

Agreed. When the Jews awake to realize that Yeshua was/is their Messiah Judaism will teach that Yeshua is the only way.

Romans 11:25-26 (NASB) "For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved" Israel's rejection of...

Yes, exactly. This represents a defined unit of time during which Gentiles (unbelievers) can enter into God's favour—salvation.

Good point. That is a possible answer in our mutual search for truth. I certainly hope Timothy shared Paul's conviction.

The Jew's rejection of the Messiah made a way for the Gentiles to enter into God's favour—for a time. Israel's eventual acknowledgement of Yeshua as the Messiah will end the time of Gentiles and complete the 70th week of Daniel, fulfilling Israel's iniquity and ushering in the Millennium.

Why, then, did Paul have Timothy, whose mother was Jewish and making him Jewish, circumcised?

Act 16:1-3 - Timothy's mother was Jewish, making him Jewish. For that reason, Paul, who opposed the circumcision of Gentiles, had Timothy circumcised.

What does that have to do with anything? What 'one'? Read Acts 15. Is a Gentile believer required to be circumcised? No! Is a Jewish believer required to be circumcised? Yes! Can two people serve two different masters? Has God abandoned those real Jews who do not yet believe in Yeshua? Romans...

No! One gospel for all. However, Gentile believers are treated differently from Israeli (Jewish) believers as attested to in Acts 15. Israeli believers remain obligated to OT practices.

Yes. That's plain. Can you see that Paul, by the Holy Spirit, is talking about a husband and wife - two already joined - and not about two waiting to be joined?

This is about a husband and wife, two who have already been joined into one. I think you're pressing the bride thing into this verse. Everyone likes the Jewish model of the groom coming at night to take his bride... Why would Paul use a Jewish model of a wedding to teach the Gentiles about...

Two gospels. Jesus appointed Peter to the Jews and Paul to the Gentiles, both with the same basic gospel message of salvation through Christ alone, with the twist that the Jews are still required to circumcise while the Gentiles are not. Is that two gospels or simply identifying that there...