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    THE FAITH OF CHRIST

    I might understand #86 if posted there were the proper translations/interpretations of those passages: Gal 2:16 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in...
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    THE FAITH OF CHRIST

    Define what you think "faith of Jesus" means. And please do so with respect to the Biblical definition of faith as given in Hebrews 11:1 (ESV) Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen. (KJV) Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the...
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    THE FAITH OF CHRIST

    Yes, I know you don't. And that is sad.
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    THE FAITH OF CHRIST

    All men are in focus in that passage. It is only those with a predisposition biased by the teachings of Augustine, Calvin and others of similar confusion that fail to see the truth.
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    THE FAITH OF CHRIST

    It doesn't say that anywhere in Romans 5.
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    THE FAITH OF CHRIST

    It is the same "many" in both cases. Romans 5:18 Rom 5:18 Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.
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    THE FAITH OF CHRIST

    The sacrificial death of Jesus on the cross was the basis for God's justification of all who believe. Faith is the means whereby one is justified by God. The believer is justified. Faith is what separates those who are justified from those who are not. Justification is not the source or the...
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    THE FAITH OF CHRIST

    In the Greek, there is neither and "of" or an "in" for the phrase "faith of/iin Jesus Christ". It is a genitive as you indicated. However, the genitive in Greek can and often does take the form of an objective genitive, meaning here that Jesus Christ is the object in the phrase. Most scholars...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    If God did not impute their sins to them, they wouldn't need to be reconciled. Forgiveness of sins is not the negation of sins but rather the negation of the penalty demanded for the sin. That is accomplished through Jesus Christ's sacrifice of having paid the penalty demanded. That is how our...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    I did. I explained what you are wrong about. The foreknowledge spoken of in verse 29 is the foreknowledge of "those who love God" in verse 28. Then in verse 29 Paul says that those are the ones He predestined to be conform to the image of Jesus Christ. Ahd those He predestined He called...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Yeah, I understand the post. But you are wrong. And clearly you do not understand Romans 8:29-30 since Romans 8:28 defines who is being referenced in Romans 8:29-30; i.e., who are they that God did foreknow, predestine and call.
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    You have obviously missed a very important part of that passage. In verse 29 who did God foreknow? Clearly, God foreknows everything and everyone. But who are the ones God did foreknow that is being discussed here? Verses 29 and 30 do not identify who it was that God did foreknow. But verse...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Did you exist before you were born?
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    There is no indication that they existed at all --period. So I haven't misrepresented what you said. As I said, it is only in the foreknowledge of God that any were elect.
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    All of that is simply God's foreknowledge, not any pre-existent being.
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Define "righteous", "understands", "seeks" and "does good" as applied in that passage.
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    The elect do not even exist from eternity, so they cannot be justified from eternity. Now God knew from eternity who He would justify. but until such time that happened at some point in the life of the one being justified, they were not. Were they ungodly from eternity? If they were...
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Even demons believe (James 2:19). You cannot believe in God without believing God. Believing in God is both believing God and trusting God. That's by definition. Those precious few who find the Straight and Narrow gate that leads to LIFE are the ones who God will "elect" (Rom 5:28-30).
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    When are God's Elect Justified?

    It is in God's act of justifying the ungodly that repentant believers are saved. They are saved by grace through faith. OBVIOUSLY, faith is the condition through which they are saved by grace. Believing in God is a prerequisite.
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    THE FAITH OF CHRIST

    And that from the one here whose posts, more than most, project things upon people just for his own pleasure to argue.