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  1. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    I have to come back to this topic when my internet gets working so I can look things up. As Christians though I don't think that we should shy away from seeing if Chuck Baldwin is right. I've read the guy and he's solid. And it's disgusted me how other pastors have maligned him. Real...
  2. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    I'm seeing this is a very sensitive subject - and questioning anything about Israel seems akin to being accused of being a heretic. I didn't grasp any of the thoughts you stated. I'm having a difficult morning pain-wise so that adds to it. My entire point in all this is that we should look to...
  3. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    In general, talking to people about religion, I have found that the argument that The Jews are not Jews based on DNA has been tied to Social Darwinism, and has most been used by Muslims. Muslims who need to push the Jewish people into the the sea based on their cult. That could very well be...
  4. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    I'm uncertain of the direction that you're taking? I'm not really grasping it. I took psychology in college - I didn't get my degree due to circumstances. I know that the powers that be use a lot of mass psychology on people. That's what alarms me because it's working - I see so many falling...
  5. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    There is a Scripture verse that states that Christians are the Jews but my internet is down this morning and I can't find it. You said that you were thrown off a forum for questioning something about the Jews and yet you're hurling accusations of anti-semitism at me. How did it feel when it...
  6. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    You're accusing me of things I don't even know about. I don't even know what you mean by "Talmadic Jews" and Jew hate - who hates the Jews??? Not me. I'm just questioning. Sorry the explanation isn't sexier than that. I'm no expert on this and stated that from the start. I have no reason to...
  7. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    I'm unsure. It's all something that I came across when reading and I don't yet know what the truth is. You do know that it was a Jew that uncovered this fact?
  8. Soverign Grace

    Christians mistreating other Christians over doctrinal differences

    It's good to remember that the tares are in our midst. Probably in our churches. That's insightful - that a tare can claim abuse when someone calls them out and exposes them/ their lies. Satan is a crafty being. I wonder why two people with Christ's spirit could rub each other the wrong way...
  9. Soverign Grace

    Christians mistreating other Christians over doctrinal differences

    That's insightful. It should be about both getting at the truth. I wonder what to do when one person isn't ready to hear the truth yet.
  10. Soverign Grace

    Christians mistreating other Christians over doctrinal differences

    Yes you expect better of other believers. But it also makes me double-check what I'm doing because I never want anyone to hurt the way I am. People seem to have a sixth sense and know who has a soft heart so I think you're a walking bullseye Nancy. It's good because it draws others to you but...
  11. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    If there is truth to be found we shouldn't be afraid of holding it up to the light. Truth stands the light test - lies do not. If DNA results show the "Jews" in Israel aren't even Jews then does that mean we've all been duped? I don't know.
  12. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    Yes but have you read that DNA tests were run on the Jews in Israel? You can't argue with these findings that the so-called "Jews" in Israel are not even Jews! The Palestinians have more Jewish blood! The nation of Israel today is populated with seven and half million imposters. You can't...
  13. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    I heard about the 'trigger words' yet I didn't think a Christian site would be set up by the government - why would they do that? That's really weird about the forum/ lawn signs.
  14. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    Yes my husband always tells me I'm throwing my vote away - but I can't stand to see how this country was destroyed before my eyes. These next generations are going to have it hard. All the manufacturing was sent overseas so that most of the jobs left are either working for the government or...
  15. Soverign Grace

    Is the nation of Israel really of the devil, fooling Christians?

    I was unaware of that verse in Jeremiah. But if the DNA results prove that the people in Israel aren't even Jews descended from Abraham then how can we accept the nation of Israel as being the biblical Israel? When I brought it up to our pastor in bible study he had a strong reaction and said...
  16. Soverign Grace

    Christians mistreating other Christians over doctrinal differences

    You made a very good point: that we can relate to on both sides if we're honest. It made me think. There is much wisdom in your words.
  17. Soverign Grace

    Christians mistreating other Christians over doctrinal differences

    I've found that to be true Nancy - the worst thing ever done to me was done by a believer who should have known better, but lied to themselves. The more I try to forgive the more it brings someone's evil deed before my mind - I've found turning away from it works the best and lets God work in...
  18. Soverign Grace

    Christians mistreating other Christians over doctrinal differences

    Isn't that exactly why Christians loathe the left? How is their being dishonest with themselves so different from the leftists who think they can shout down conservatives? I see that there is similarity. If you don't believe as I do then you're wrong, you're a troll, you're misinformed...