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    Right, Wrong, and Moral.................

    Car drives smoothly. Stop avoiding responsibility and defend your assertion. I have demonstrated how morals among humans arise due to being feeling beings that coexist. I'm DONE. Your turn.
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    Right, Wrong, and Moral.................

    It's like you're missing the full context of what I keep repeating. We HUMANS develop morals based on US. Things like reduction of suffering, etc. are things we find desirable, therefore the moral codes we develop will typically embody the like. WE, our preferences, desires for safety, love...
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    How'd I Get Here...........

    I basically grew up and was a believer for as long as I can remember. I didn't have that 'turning from sin' conversion story because for the entirety of my life, I had basically abhorred sin and tried to practice what I believed to be righteous living. Perhaps because that is my sorry, unlike...
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    Right, Wrong, and Moral.................

    Now, please detail other ways a moral framework can be developed.
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    Right, Wrong, and Moral.................

    Again to reiterate, I have consistently stated that the basis for HUMANS determining what is moral centers around what we almost universally desire. Things like safety, fairness, pleasure, the reduction of suffering, appreciation and love, security, improving the quality of the human experience...
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    Matthews Mishaps......

    One of the ones that jumps out to me is found in Matthew 26:31 where Jesus himself claims fulfilled prophesy. In context it reads: Then, as they ate, Jesus took a loaf, and after giving thanks, broke it and gave it to the disciples saying: 'Take some and eat it, because this is my body.' He...
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    The Problems With End Times Prophecy

    Again, making the Last Days spoken of in scripture applicable to the generation of the 21st century as opposed to the generation of the 1st century believers to who the texts were written to and about is an error.
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    The Problems With End Times Prophecy

    You are confusing Biblical Millennial Apologists who add their dogma into the text with scholars that actually study the the text, the audience the text was contemporary to, etc.
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    Right, Wrong, and Moral.................

    We know that in our shared reality, this concept called murder exists (ontology). When we bring it under the microscope of morality we show the method used to illustrate the REASON we deem it wrong. It's about the how and whys WE HUMANS classify actions as either good or bad. Now, remember I...
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    The Problems With End Times Prophecy

    Most modern scholars agree that the four world empires symbolized by the statue are Babylon (the head), the Medes (arms and shoulders), Persia (thighs and legs) and Seleucid Syria and Ptolemaic Egypt (the feet). The consensus among scholars is that the four beasts of chapter 7 symbolize the same...
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    Right, Wrong, and Moral.................

    The Decalogue was part of the Sinai Covenant between Jacob's descendants and their god, not an overarching moral law. No need to read things into it that the text doesn't support.
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    The Problems With End Times Prophecy

    The 1st area I'll address are the last days. Based on what the Bible describes, what the writers asserted, and what the audience of the writers were expecting, I understand "THE LAST DAYS" to be the END OF THE COVENANT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PHYSICAL ISRAEL & GOD culminating with the utter...
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    Right, Wrong, and Moral.................

    What is right? In the dictionary it's defined as morally good, justified, or acceptable. Defining it is easy, but determining the who and the how behind what is considered good, justifiable, and acceptable is where we have issues. For millennia men have argued and reasoned in the hopes of...
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    Do these two points defeat the "moral argument" for God's existence

    What can be wrong with the idea of might makes right is the potential lack of equity for those who are not among or on the side of the mighty. I'm honestly not sure how this condition could ever be so that it would please and feel equitable to all affected parties. No perfect system has been...
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    Do these two points defeat the "moral argument" for God's existence

    A concept can exist objectively but it's meaning can be subjective. Example being the concept of tall. Tallness exists as a concept objectively, but what is tall is subjective. A six foot 2 inch person might be considered tall in a setting of middle school kids while that same person would not...
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    Do these two points defeat the "moral argument" for God's existence

    Our = individuals, communities, societies, or locales in both space and time.
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    Do these two points defeat the "moral argument" for God's existence

    Please demonstrate that objective moral absolutes exist. You're attempting to create a false dichotomy by insisting that the answer has to be your A and B. The fact that you keep repeating the above is head-scratchingly frustrating. I explained on several occasion why what I do or what others...
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    The Problems With End Times Prophecy

    @Bobby Jo These require more than a bit of a leap and necessitate one to make assumptions that have little to no biblical backing. People living in any century for the past 1500 or so years could read themselves and their time period into the writings of Daniel and replace the moderns 20th and...
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    The Problems With End Times Prophecy

    Do these two points defeat the "moral argument" for God's existence
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    The Problems With End Times Prophecy

    Interpretation, application, and lack of fulfillment are in my eyes the biggest issues with what believers describe as end-time prophecy. In this thread I'd like to focus on WHO the audience was that was being addressed by the so called prophet, the time frame laid out by the prophecy (WHEN)...