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I checked and the 2 Cor. 5:9 is both stated and displayed at 37:47. Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 2 Cor. 5:9 What strength of glasses do you use? ;) I go to God for answers. As such, holiness can never be a process. No one becomes holier...

We can be clothed in His righteousness. But that righteousness is always His own. When we abide in Christ we grow into His likeness and partake of the righteousness of saints...which at that point is imputed to us. So then God's righteousness is training saints to become righteous even as He is...

I agree with this. Protestantism is based on Western rationalistic relativism which means that nothing truly spiritual and miraculous can be accepted. Everything is just seen as moralistic, hyperbole, figurative, or abstract. This causes a person to miss the mark by undervaluing the mystery and...

I have laid out in detail how religious people twist the meaning of words to arrive at a place where self-justification seems reasonable. But imputation is really very simple. God imputes to people what is real not imagined. If God sees something worthy of being called righteous, He imputes...

Old Testament righteousness: Either by works or by faith. Examples are of both Phinehas and Abraham respectively. (Please do not respond unless a study of both is done...otherwise one is just opining in ignorance of the scriptures). God can impute righteousness to a person for either faith or...

This episode is a follow-up to "Harmful Doctrines Part 1" whereby we continue to examine certain words that are being presently misunderstood by many, as well as other doctrines that are based on an incomplete understanding of God's ways.

Your imaginative reading of the bible is not the purpose of this thread. You can imagine yourself as the hero in the text...as a fun speculation...but to try pretending to understand the teachings by rebuking actual believers is a terrible thing that invites a very hard judgment from God. Will...

Believing in a cross is not the same as experiencing the power of it. Your ministrations are purely religious having no power but to think that you are righteous by your own beliefs. All who agree with your outlandish claims are also in the same category as you.

You are the most judgmental person here. You only skulk in the background to pounce on whoever rebukes the carnal nature. You are just a troll...never engaging in the OP...just satisfying your own longings....to defend what the Lord wants to crucify.

Believing a truth doesn't make you born again. Where were you indoctrinated to actually believe such a thing?

What do you mean by saved? A certain status that guarantees you cannot have iniquity imputed to you? Study what forgiveness is in the bible. Forgiveness is to set aside (send away) offenses...that can be brought back unless there is a change in behaviour. And forgiveness does not empower someone...

It's good to hear from a true believer. Thank you for your post. And I notice you are actually using a real Concordance to get at the actual meaning of words...which many here have no sense in doing (seeing they ONLY look for a human carnal agenda while ignoring the truth as much as possible)...

I don't think any of you know the difference between forgiveness and sanctification. The carnal man only wants forgiveness...not the truth. The vast majority among those who claim to be justified are self-justified. Belief in fables is rampant. There is no safety in numbers. Jesus did not come...

Who here thinks that the Exodus story of slavery into freedom is a story of forgiveness? What happened to the those who refused to humble themselves and obey the Lord in the wilderness? Was it God's forgiveness that saw them perish? Or is MORE required of those who experience the blessings of God?

You are all missing the point as per usual. God spoke to Paul many times as recorded in the bible....never did God say...I forgive you. That's a foolish thing to require of God. 1. Paul was fearful of being cut-off from the kingdom as any wise man would be. 1 Cor. 9:27 2. Paul said...woe is me...

Your issue is with the bible and with the way God actually works and not with me. Find a verse that says that God forgave Paul for all his murders. You are stuck in a carnal trap just lie many others here. You want to finish judgment day right now...but a big surprise is waiting. The truth...

Agreed. A static doctrinal position can hide a multitude of different motivations...both good and bad. Not everyone who holds to a static doctrine that is wrong is a bad person. And the opposite is also true. My point is that sound doctrine is based on a dynamic obedience that is in agreement...

Doctrine shows us how we ought to live, not what we are to believe. Amen.

I remember one time when a fellow worker invited me to take a ride home in his car. He sat in the car, and put the car in reverse while looking out the back window. We waited for the car to move. It didn't. The thing is that he hadn't yet started the engine. That's like what doctrinal salvation...

How important is doctrine in the life of a believer in Christ? Are we saved by having correct beliefs? How harmful can a doctrine be if it is not both biblically and spiritually sound? Join us as we investigate how we can fall into error and accept what is harmful and unhealthy to growth in Christ.