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Well, it's not exactly biblical either as far as I'm concerned. I believe half a dozen scriptures say "JESUS CHRIST" is the "SON OF GOD" or "SON OF THE FATHER". I don't think any verses say "CHRIST JESUS" is the son of God No verse anywhere says anything about 'God the Son.....anything'...

ABOVE FROM POST 444 Having dealt with this from the Charismatic perspective for verses 1, 2 earlier, I will continue to build on that foundation, ACT 2:3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. "cloven" 1266 to partition thoroughly TWO...

Was thinking earlier of this very verse in Psa. :hmhehm A teaching I read long ago was 'unpacked' it as saying that the "book" in which 'all our members were written', were talking about our body's future, which GOD KNEW but your spirit did not. That book of our 'physical members life' was...

I'm not saying what you are experiencing is or isn't spiritual. And neither am I saying it is or isn't from God, because I honestly don't know. But the 'paranormal' stuff I did hear from whatever sources they were (I've forgotten) seemed to lean to the occult. Especially so if you were talking...

Yes I do believe in the manifestation of supernatural power from both, the devil and God. WHY? Because I have experienced His supernatural power as well as that of the Satan and the devil. As for your 'lament' concerning 'the church'...you have just described the majority of the church IMO...

Mixing 'the spiritual book' with a 'fundaMENTALy heavy' one like this book, certainly explains to me why we don't get along very good at all. There's certainly not enough fellowship with you to spend any more time arguing IMO. :no reply:

I totally agree, but the holy spirit in me or the Holy Spirit upon me isn't my concern. I just don't believe I am infallible to missing what the holy spirit from God in me, or the Holy Spirit of God upon me is saying. I told you earlier, if scripture was ever infallible, it was so only with...

Unless you read only the 'original autograph' copies, none of which exist, and if you read post Latin infected newer Greek manuscripts, I have to say Carl that I believe I am reading tainted copies. :(

Where is the verse saying he doesn't? I shared giving prophetic words from God concerning past present and future things. And this I know, I am not God, so how did these words support unknown knowledge in those instances? Read what Psalm DID SAY and then read your response. PSA 147:5 Great is...

I will just be up front and say that I will unpack my opinion from my Charismatic or Pentecostal experience. ACT 2:1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. I am of the persuasion that 'the day of Pentecost was fully come', when the Holy...

To have sovereignty doesn't mean one "controls" all. It means He can 'trump' anything' that would keep His ultimate goal from being fulfilled. PSA 115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's; But the earth He has given to the children of men. Rick Joyner says this verse gives men...

My experience is this; When driving down a road I can look at things close and also far away to oblivion. What I think I'm seeing close is more accurate than the things farther down the road in time. How does one "test" their accuracy? You quit looking through the windshield and start looking...

God sees the beginning from the end and the end from the beginning. He alone dwells in true eternity. We dwell in the age we are living in. ROM 4:17 ...and calleth those things which be not as though they were. Prophesying can be a (past tense) 'word' spoken from the mouth of God...

He was chosen in the womb. Just like John the baptist jumped in the womb when Mary, pregnant with Jesus, came to see Elizabeth. I still say it was a physical thing that took place as both were fetuses. JER 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of...

Do you have a verse saying 'chosen or called'? If you do please share it. I don't remember one. Or, making it easier, where is there a verse stating that being 'any' of the five-fold ministry positions is 'chosen or called' ministry? I ask that because I don't consider any of the five-fold...

MAT 11:13* "For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14* "And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. MAT 11:9 'But what went ye out to see? - a prophet? yes, I say to you, and more than a prophet, Jesus considered John the Baptist as a...

I'll share some of my testimony today to meet the protocol for maybe sharing after the new chapter starts. I'm from the 'high plains' of western Kansas where they say there's a pretty girl behind every tree. I always like to say it took me 22 years to find....a tree....and I married her. But...

I explained it in the first comment of my #143 post.

And as I said the "BEST, GREATER" and this RSV is the best translation "HIGHER GIFTS" are the ones in that 1 Cor 12:28-31 list which are SPIRITUAL. The ones NOT spiritual are the doma/gifts of the five fold ministry. Those gifts aren't "spiritual" because they aren't even available to ALL...

Sorry Carl, I didn't see your post until after I posted mine. We were answering at the same time. Mine was just longer. :innocent: You are influencing too many, time for me to speak up. Do you have a scripture for the above? Well I do. 1CO 12:31 But earnestly desire the higher gifts...