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  1. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    I have to disagree with you there. What's the point of issuing warnings after the Day of God's wrath in seal 6?
  2. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    Now we come to the trumpets. They are being sounded while the events of the seals are taking place. Revelation 8:2-9:21 Trumpets signal war and judgement. Those who hear them have the opportunity to decide whether to surrender - or resist. But before judgement is declared, Heaven pauses - in...
  3. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    Revelation 6:1-8:1 When Jesus went to Nazareth and read from the scroll of Isaiah in the synagogue, He was fulfilling the words of the prophet even as He spoke them (Luke 4:21). In a similar way, as He opens and reads this heavenly scroll (which contains God’s purposes for the ‘last days’, the...
  4. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    No-one knows for certain. Whatever explanation works for you...
  5. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    Revelation 4 & 5 These two chapters form an extended introduction to the first main vision (the seven seals), and also set the scene for the whole of the remainder of the book. John is no longer on earth; in his vision he has been transported into heaven (Revelation 4:1), from where he can see...
  6. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    When you point the finger... Your one and only piece of evidence for Revelation not being written in the 90s AD seems to be one report that John was incapable of writing it or even dictating it in 96AD. His capability (or lack of it) in 91, 92, 93 or 94 is unattested. So a date in the early 90s...
  7. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    The order of the churches is the order in which the letter would reach them if the messenger started at Ephesus (the main port). Whether or not it also 'fits' church history depends on your reading of church history, and church history varies immensely from one geographical region to another...
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    Unravelling Revelation

    No dates are known with absolute certainty. 60 years after the resurrection would be around 90 AD - 6 years before this report. There was nothing to stop John having dictated it, say 3-5 years earlier - in fact, that would have been the normal practice at the time, when few people did enough...
  9. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    Revelation 2 & 3 Before the start of the revelation itself, John is given seven “personal messages” for seven of the churches in Asia Minor. They are a very mixed bag: some are large and thriving, others small and struggling. Some are faithful; others are compromising with the world around...
  10. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    We tend to forget that the book of Revelation is mainly about Jesus! Revelation 1 The setting of Revelation could hardly be more discouraging: John, the writer, is exiled on the island of Patmos to stop him from spreading the Gospel. The churches are being persecuted. They are for the most...
  11. Deborah_

    Cause of earthquakes

    In other words, this "weapon" exists only in your imagination. Maybe he would - if he could. But more likely he's just exaggerating for effect, like bullies do.
  12. Deborah_

    Unravelling Revelation

    God’s “last word” to the human race is Jesus (Hebrews 1:1,2). Revelation, written around 60 years after Jesus’ death and resurrection, therefore contains nothing new; it is, rather, a re-statement of what has already been revealed to earlier generations. What it does is draw together threads...
  13. Deborah_

    Cause of earthquakes

    What "weapon" is capable of causing an earthquake? (A genuine earthquake, rather than just the shock of an explosion)
  14. Deborah_

    Cause of earthquakes

    Just because verse 10 comes after verse 11, it doesn't follow that the events in verse 10 cause the events in verse 11.
  15. Deborah_

    At what point does a believer join the Body of Christ?

    In an ideal world, we would all get baptised as soon as possible after believing, and would immediately join a local church. The believing, the baptising, and the assimilation into the Body would just be different aspects of the same event ("conversion") - which, theologically speaking, they...
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    Reader Poll - Bible Reading - BEFORE or AFTER you became a Christian?

    Before the day I became a Christian I had only opened a Bible two or three times (other than in school RE lessons) When I was quite young I started reading the KJV from the beginning but got stuck in chapter 6 of Genesis because Noah was spelt "Noe". That confused me terribly, and there was...
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    Bible reading plans

    I use my own reading plan because I've never liked any of the plans that are generally available. For most of my Christian life I've read the whole Bible through every year. My plan gave me five short passages every day - one from OT history, one from OT poetry, one from OT prophecy, one from...
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    Were messianic prophecies acquired, rather than intended? (in the original texts)

    And who is the original Author of prophecy? Whatever Isaiah, Jeremiah and all the rest of the prophets (and their contemporaries) understood by their prophecies, God was working on a much larger timescale. As someone else has said, patterns in Scripture are as important as words.
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    If God is real, then how did Noah’s Ark happen?

    Not everyone takes all the details literally. "All the world", for example, could easily mean "all the world inhabited by humans at that time" - which could well have been a relatively small area. Again, Christians have different opinions concerning the timeline of Genesis. So the global...
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    Were messianic prophecies acquired, rather than intended? (in the original texts)

    There are very very few clear predictive prophecies about the Messiah (Zechariah 9:9 is one that comes to mind). Most of the OT texts that we call "Messianic prophecies" aren't prophecies in the sense that they say "the Messiah will do (or be) such-and-such." So the Jews don't consider them as...