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  1. jeffweeder

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    You failed to quote v 24, which is what I was addressing. The time "now is" for that passing from death to life, which obviously refers to a spiritual fulfillment,...... as a physical body's transference from death to life was not apparent then...... until the future hour in v28 that includes...
  2. jeffweeder

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Why are you avoiding what I said. The time that "now is" refers to a reality well before a physical bodily resurrection takes place, clearly explained in v 24 and 25. V26 begins.., 26 For just as the Father has life in Himself [and is self-existent], even so He has given to the Son to have...
  3. jeffweeder

    All the ones who do not know God, all the wicked and proud will be burned up when Christ returns, OT and NT say this

    We already have the power to reconcile the world to Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit. What more do you think we need to finally reach these people? Not that your future millennium states we will, as billions are still in rebellion a thousand years after he comes to save but a few.
  4. jeffweeder

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    No it is not. This is what it is..., 25 I assure you and most solemnly say to you, a time is coming and is [here] now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear it will live. Bodily resurrection is clearly not in view here.
  5. jeffweeder

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    We know John had the Holy Spirit and he didn't see a difference. John 5 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My message], and believes and trusts in Him who sent Me, has (possesses now) eternal life [that is, eternal life actually...
  6. jeffweeder

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I agree. There is however a passing from death to life as we are born again of the Spirit. God said to Adam the day you eat of the forbidden fruit you shall surely die. He didn't die physically that day but Spiritually. So we are born AGAIN when the Lord breathes his life into us a second time...
  7. jeffweeder

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    John is consistent in his teaching in Jn 5 and rev 20. In both passages he speaks of passing from death to life that gives us a blessed hope of not coming into Judgment through faith. Jn 5 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My...
  8. jeffweeder

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    dad replied, Why listen to you? Jesus told us when that is...., lk 21 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 34 “But be on guard, so that your hearts are not weighed down and depressed with the giddiness of debauchery and the nausea of self-indulgence and the...
  9. jeffweeder

    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Only those who believe Jesus partake spiritually. They are born again of the Spirit and have already passed from death to life. Jesus got the victory over death for us. We are more than conquerers then, thanks to Jesus resurrection. Jn 5 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the...
  10. jeffweeder

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Are you for real? Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth [as now known] will pass away, but My words will not pass away. Mark 13:31 Heaven and earth [as now known] will pass away, but My words will not pass away. Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away...
  11. jeffweeder

    Both Israelis and Islamists will be wiped out

    o_O The Unshaken Kingdom 25 See to it that you do not refuse [to listen to] Him who is speaking [to you now]. For if those [sons of Israel] did not escape when they refused [to listen to] him who warned them on earth [revealing God’s will], how much less will we escape if we turn our backs on...
  12. jeffweeder

    Both Israelis and Islamists will be wiped out

    Not only them, but all who are without Jesus. Jesus comes in a flame of fire at Gods righteous judgment, 2Thess 1 5 This is a positive proof of the righteous judgment of God [a sign of His fair verdict], so that you will be considered worthy of His kingdom, for which indeed you are suffering. 6...
  13. jeffweeder

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    So, you believe Jesus was wrong about the Heaven and earth passing away at his coming? So, do the heaven and earth pass away that time? What exactly is he taking over? There are no wicked as you say, because they are all destroyed. Looks like the ideal time for a NHNE where God dwells with the...
  14. jeffweeder

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Very true. Only believers are left. I thought you just said no one rebels / over runs after Jesus returns. There are billions not just some. The saints get raptured again? That is the second coming when Jesus said heaven and earth pass away. Jesus comes in a flame of fire...., 2Thess 1 5...
  15. jeffweeder

    Daniel's Final "one week" of Daniel 9:27 Made Simple

    Davy The above statement is only a doctrine of men type statement, it is not Biblical. Really, Dan 9 24 “Seventy weeks [of years, or 490 years] have been decreed for your people and for your holy city (Jerusalem), to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make atonement...
  16. jeffweeder

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Yes, one event. Paul said all who have believed the Gospel testimony will be glorified when he appears. The dead and living in Christ. 2Tim 4 6 For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure [from this world] is at hand and I will soon go free. 7 I have...
  17. jeffweeder

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    That will happen to all saints when Jesus comes in complete vengeance with everlasting judgment. All who have believed will be glorified on this day. 2Thess 1 5 This is a positive proof of the righteous judgment of God [a sign of His fair verdict], so that you will be considered worthy of His...
  18. jeffweeder

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    For good reason. Matt 8 11 I say to you that many [Gentiles] will come from east and west, and will sit down [to feast at the table, and enjoy God’s promises] with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven [because they accepted Me as Savior], 12 while the sons and heirs of the kingdom...