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I believe the destination was literally reached in the first century.

The woman is saved in childbearing! Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. — 1 Timothy 2:15 If this is in reference to Al literal female then we have a big problem; what does God do with the females that can’t bare...

My wish is that females not be excluded. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. — Galatians 3:28 The objective for male or female in the body of Christ is to become this man. The woman in the...

Maybe we must first define what a man in the body of Christ is. Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: — Ephesians 4:13 Does this verse apply to both male and female?

There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. — Galatians 3:28 There is no gender or ethnicity in Christ.

Paul stated in the body of Christ there is no male or female. Only Christ is manifest.

I believe we are the new heavens and the new earth. The prayer is thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. What we experience beyond the veil should be manifested in this physical realm. This is the source of conversation between my wife and myself. My desire for her is that she be...

Christ became subordinate to God, but did he stay in subordination?

This story of Adam and Eve is about Christ. Under the veil it can’t be seen. Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. — Genesis 5:2 If you pay attention you see the curses placed on the two observed by Cain and Able...

Okay, so in the spiritual realm beyond the veil you reach maturity and literally become a perfect man, to the fullness of the stature of Christ. Paul is referring to this as unity in faith. Paul also states that the woman is saved in childbearing. In my mind the only way this can be reconciled...

Is that a yes or a no?

I understand what your stating here. In my mind Apostle Paul makes it pretty clear there is neither male or female in the body of Christ, but outside of Christ in the carnal mind, people role play. In this carnal reality we live under the female forever remains the subordinate to the male.

I have a question, does this verse apply to the females also or is it only for the males in the church? Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ: — Ephesians 4:13

What Old Testament reference is Paul using to make this statement in Hebrews? But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. — Hebrews 1:8 Post #501

These trinity guys are always trying to say "see here's proof" off of a verse. I can only assume I’m one of these guys? Could you direct me to where I’ve proclaimed this, and also explain to me what else I believe?

This is the question I’d asked @Wrangler in an earlier post, which he never responded to. Where did I make a positional statement as to the topic is Jesus God. It was simply a question. The reason I had asked Peter if he’d considered joining your group is because at times he also appears to...

Well, thanks for not admonishing me this time. Maybe your not fit to be a JW, after all.

It was a simple question.. I wasn’t making a statement! Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre. Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. — Psalm 45:6-7...

What Old Testament reference is Paul using to make this statement in Hebrews? But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. — Hebrews 1:8

I believe I understand now, what I posted didn’t come directly from you men teachers, and I understand that is important too you! Try and understand that it means nothing too me.